Ebay Issue....I need help!

sportsstuff87 · 03-26-2012, 12:57 PM

Ok so I sent a card that was in near mint to mind condition to a fella in Hawaii. I misposted the card the first time and reshipped it priority so I spent a total of $10 to ship the card to him. This is the messages we have exchanged so far.

Dear sportsstuff87,To whom it may concern,I just received the item I purchased from you, there's damage dings to the top right corner and bottom right corner on the front and dings to the top right and bottom 2 corners on the back of the card. Can I get a partial refund of $15 since this was not stated in your auction??

Hello Brandon,This obviously concerns me. When the card was shipped it was in Near mint to mind condition. Being shipped in a hard case I find it hard to believe the card was damaged via shipping. I will NOT send you a $15 refund. I will however allow you to ship the card back to me and send you a full refund once I recieve the card back. - sportsstuff87

If I do send the item back to you, are you going to reimburse me the $3 for returning the damage card back to you plus a full refund of 30.99 a total of $33.99??- insomnia808

Brandon,I mailed the card priority out to you as an act of kindess when my auction clearly states 2 handling buisness days even saying the card was shipped within that stated time frame, So in essence I have already spent $10 of my own dollars for shipping this card for you. But if I don't I know I will get negative feedback, sure thing, youll get back $33.99 from me. - sportsstuff87

Ok, I'll send the damaged card you to sent to me back to you for the full refund of $30.99 plus the $3 a total of $33.99.- insomnia808

Dear insomnia808,Sounds good, sorry for the issue - sportsstuff87

Dear sportsstuff87,What's your mailing address so I can send the damaged card back to you even though this more time and money out of my hands??- insomnia808

Brandon,my address is******* You dont have to send the card back, that is your decision. I'm not selling you a $30 card for $15 dollar because you claim it to be damaged. I don't see how this is money out of your pocket when you are getting a full refund.
Kenny Niel

Am I going about doing this wrong? Its the first time iv had someone say I sent a damaged card to them. I cant wait to see the condition the card is returned in.

wheeler281 · 03-26-2012, 01:02 PM

you look like you handled it just fine. He was just trying to pull the partial refund scam on you. In fact have him open a claim on paypal to make it official. Paypal btw has the person returning assume the shipping cost not the seller. So if you think the extra 3 bucks will save a negative then fine.

bigsmoot2 · 03-26-2012, 01:03 PM

No you are handling it correctly, don't do a partial refund.

Once you get the card back, block the person and re-list.

What is the ebay ID as I (and many others here) like to block the partial refund crowd?

sportsstuff87 · 03-26-2012, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigsmoot2

No you are handling it correctly, don't do a partial refund.

Once you get the card back, block the person and re-list.

What is the ebay ID as I (and many others here) like to block the partial refund crowd?

Im just afraid to see the condition of this card when i get it back, ughhh

the username is insomnia808

SacGWYNN19 · 03-26-2012, 01:39 PM

You are not responsible for covering his s/h costs.

gonzagacubs · 03-26-2012, 01:41 PM

This sounds very similar to someone I had to deal with about 6 months ago. I will have to go back and check my email when I get home to see if this is the same person.

I had sold a Brandon Beachy Topps Chrome Auto to a guy in Hawaii, only to have them tell me it was damaged when they received it. I asked for a scan of the damage, and they told me they were already sending it back to me, so no go on the scan. I got the card back. He never took it out of the team bag or the topload for that matter. More than likely a case of buyer's remorse.

cruiserdaddy7 · 03-26-2012, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SacGWYNN19

You are not responsible for covering his s/h costs.

I think he is well aware he isnt responsible. I think he is also aware that not giving him $3 is going to result in negative feedback that he doesnt want.

sportsstuff87 · 03-26-2012, 02:41 PM

Latest message back....is this guy serious??

Kenny,It's more time and money out my pocket because of me having to print out the shipping label and going to the post office to send this damaged item back to you. The card is worth $15 not $30. I'll accept a partial refund of $11 and we call it even.

Brandon- insomnia808

pac213up · 03-26-2012, 02:50 PM

Added to my block list....thanks and good luck.

dthimesch · 03-26-2012, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsstuff87

Im just afraid to see the condition of this card when i get it back, ughhh

the username is insomnia808

Once you issue him a full refund there is nothing he can do about getting the extra $3 from you, only thing he could do is leave a negative.

Anyways, about the statement I quoted, a lot of times you are going to get the card back in just the condition you mailed it out like. I have had this happen often. The buyer will get the card and have buyers remorse. Lets just hope this is the case here.

vatechhokiefan · 03-26-2012, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsstuff87

Latest message back....is this guy serious??

Kenny,It's more time and money out my pocket because of me having to print out the shipping label and going to the post office to send this damaged item back to you. The card is worth $15 not $30. I'll accept a partial refund of $11 and we call it even.

Brandon- insomnia808

Pushing hard for the partial refund.....that is what he intended from the time he bid on the card. He is blocked. Thank you.

wheeler281 · 03-26-2012, 03:07 PM

just have him open a case with paypal as I originally posted. He will then ask for a partial there to where you denied and they will tell him to send it back at his expense

If he will not open a claim then he is just trying you on. Really nothing more to be said and done

btw if you check feedback he has left he has left negative for "damage" so just do the paypal route and be done with the headache

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...kLeftForOthers

sportsstuff87 · 03-26-2012, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheeler281

just have him open a case with paypal as I originally posted. He will then ask for a partial there to where you denied and they will tell him to send it back at his expense

If he will not open a claim then he is just trying you on. Really nothing more to be said and done

btw if you check feedback he has left he has left negative for "damage" so just do the paypal route and be done with the headache

eBay Feedback Profile for insomnia808

I messaged him and said file a case, and he said it "wasnt worth his time"

people make me laugh these days haha

nuccionino · 03-26-2012, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsstuff87

I messaged him and said file a case, and he said it "wasnt worth his time"

people make me laugh these days haha

He doesn't have 5 seconds to open a case, but he has time to write you back? Buyers get worse and worse daily.

iluvfish2 · 03-26-2012, 04:48 PM

For you he needs to go through ebay. This not only keeps things on the up and up, but also will get you your final fee values back.

wheeler281 · 03-26-2012, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsstuff87

I messaged him and said file a case, and he said it "wasnt worth his time"

people make me laugh these days haha

well goes to show you what his real intention was.

Good Move on your part and now he knows he can;t get one over on you

sportsstuff87 · 03-30-2012, 07:45 PM

Just as i suspected got the card back and all 4 corners have been pushed in, avoid this d bag people. Couldnt be more mad right now.

obadger · 03-30-2012, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsstuff87

Just as i suspected got the card back and all 4 corners have been pushed in, avoid this d bag people. Couldnt be more mad right now.

SCUMBAG!!!!!

FebruaryXVI · 03-30-2012, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsstuff87

Just as i suspected got the card back and all 4 corners have been pushed in, avoid this d bag people. Couldnt be more mad right now.

Woah, that sucks. I was following this story and was wondering if the guy would ruin the card before he sent it back.

Crappy situation man.

sportsstuff87 · 03-30-2012, 09:54 PM

Figured id show what i got back compared to what i sent.

The one on the left is what i sent the one on the right is what i got back. The marks on the case are from the hard screw down it was shipped in.

wheeler281 · 03-30-2012, 10:39 PM

just respond to the case the package was empty

NonSportsCardForum · 03-31-2012, 07:34 AM

Wow...douche move.

ManInTheMirror · 03-31-2012, 08:27 AM

Wow who is that...I want that card.

03-26-2012, 12:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
sportsstuff87 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New jersey Posts: 412 sportsstuff87	Ebay Issue....I need help! Ok so I sent a card that was in near mint to mind condition to a fella in Hawaii. I misposted the card the first time and reshipped it priority so I spent a total of $10 to ship the card to him. This is the messages we have exchanged so far. Dear sportsstuff87,To whom it may concern,I just received the item I purchased from you, there's damage dings to the top right corner and bottom right corner on the front and dings to the top right and bottom 2 corners on the back of the card. Can I get a partial refund of $15 since this was not stated in your auction?? Hello Brandon,This obviously concerns me. When the card was shipped it was in Near mint to mind condition. Being shipped in a hard case I find it hard to believe the card was damaged via shipping. I will NOT send you a $15 refund. I will however allow you to ship the card back to me and send you a full refund once I recieve the card back. - sportsstuff87 If I do send the item back to you, are you going to reimburse me the $3 for returning the damage card back to you plus a full refund of 30.99 a total of $33.99??- insomnia808 Brandon,I mailed the card priority out to you as an act of kindess when my auction clearly states 2 handling buisness days even saying the card was shipped within that stated time frame, So in essence I have already spent $10 of my own dollars for shipping this card for you. But if I don't I know I will get negative feedback, sure thing, youll get back $33.99 from me. - sportsstuff87 Ok, I'll send the damaged card you to sent to me back to you for the full refund of $30.99 plus the $3 a total of $33.99.- insomnia808 Dear insomnia808,Sounds good, sorry for the issue - sportsstuff87 Dear sportsstuff87,What's your mailing address so I can send the damaged card back to you even though this more time and money out of my hands??- insomnia808 Brandon,my address is******* You dont have to send the card back, that is your decision. I'm not selling you a $30 card for $15 dollar because you claim it to be damaged. I don't see how this is money out of your pocket when you are getting a full refund. Kenny Niel Am I going about doing this wrong? Its the first time iv had someone say I sent a damaged card to them. I cant wait to see the condition the card is returned in.

03-26-2012, 01:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
wheeler281 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,131 wheeler281 wheeler281	you look like you handled it just fine. He was just trying to pull the partial refund scam on you. In fact have him open a claim on paypal to make it official. Paypal btw has the person returning assume the shipping cost not the seller. So if you think the extra 3 bucks will save a negative then fine. __________________ Collecting- Rod Woodson, Troy Polamalu, Greg Lloyd, & James Harrision

03-26-2012, 01:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
bigsmoot2 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: MN Posts: 4,846 bigbass21	No you are handling it correctly, don't do a partial refund. Once you get the card back, block the person and re-list. What is the ebay ID as I (and many others here) like to block the partial refund crowd? __________________ FAN OF: CHICAGO CUBS & DENVER BRONCOS

03-26-2012, 01:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
gonzagacubs Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 670 gonzagacubs	This sounds very similar to someone I had to deal with about 6 months ago. I will have to go back and check my email when I get home to see if this is the same person. I had sold a Brandon Beachy Topps Chrome Auto to a guy in Hawaii, only to have them tell me it was damaged when they received it. I asked for a scan of the damage, and they told me they were already sending it back to me, so no go on the scan. I got the card back. He never took it out of the team bag or the topload for that matter. More than likely a case of buyer's remorse. __________________ Photobucket: http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/gonzagacubs/

03-26-2012, 03:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
wheeler281 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,131 wheeler281 wheeler281	just have him open a case with paypal as I originally posted. He will then ask for a partial there to where you denied and they will tell him to send it back at his expense If he will not open a claim then he is just trying you on. Really nothing more to be said and done btw if you check feedback he has left he has left negative for "damage" so just do the paypal route and be done with the headache http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...kLeftForOthers __________________ Collecting- Rod Woodson, Troy Polamalu, Greg Lloyd, & James Harrision

03-26-2012, 01:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
SacGWYNN19 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,599	You are not responsible for covering his s/h costs.

03-26-2012, 02:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
sportsstuff87 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New jersey Posts: 412 sportsstuff87	Latest message back....is this guy serious?? Kenny,It's more time and money out my pocket because of me having to print out the shipping label and going to the post office to send this damaged item back to you. The card is worth $15 not $30. I'll accept a partial refund of $11 and we call it even. Brandon- insomnia808

03-26-2012, 02:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
pac213up Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,283 craftyvet	Added to my block list....thanks and good luck.

03-26-2012, 04:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
iluvfish2 Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lansing, Michigan Posts: 19,746 iluvfish2 iluvfish2	For you he needs to go through ebay. This not only keeps things on the up and up, but also will get you your final fee values back. __________________ Blowouts Resident Wade Boggs Super Collector

03-30-2012, 07:45 PM	#17 (permalink)
sportsstuff87 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New jersey Posts: 412 sportsstuff87	Just as i suspected got the card back and all 4 corners have been pushed in, avoid this d bag people. Couldnt be more mad right now.

03-30-2012, 09:54 PM	#20 (permalink)
sportsstuff87 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New jersey Posts: 412 sportsstuff87	Figured id show what i got back compared to what i sent. The one on the left is what i sent the one on the right is what i got back. The marks on the case are from the hard screw down it was shipped in. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by sportsstuff87; 03-30-2012 at 09:56 PM.

03-30-2012, 10:39 PM	#21 (permalink)
wheeler281 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,131 wheeler281 wheeler281	just respond to the case the package was empty __________________ Collecting- Rod Woodson, Troy Polamalu, Greg Lloyd, & James Harrision

03-31-2012, 07:34 AM	#22 (permalink)
NonSportsCardForum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Austin Tx Posts: 2,333	Wow...douche move.

03-31-2012, 08:27 AM	#23 (permalink)
ManInTheMirror Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 23,415	Wow who is that...I want that card.

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