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Old 07-17-2012, 04:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Long story short, I contacted a member (tripledouble) about a card they presented to me a while back (Vincent Brown NT /25)...back then, over a month ago, they were going for mid 50s- mid 70s so I think I offered him 60 paypal for it? Today I offered him 80 with the intent to go up to 90, since a Jon Baldwin recently went for 102 and I bought a Rudolph VIK /25 for 100, and I'd categorize those three guys in a similar young pass catchers ready to break out group.

I try not to lowball, but I do like getting pc stuff for solid prices and I had no idea this had just sold for 140 two days ago since it did not have /25 in the title. I obviously wouldn't have inquired had I saw the same exact card there. Looking on ebay right now I see a few /99's that went for 35-45 and some golds that went for 50-75. So I thought targeting 90 paypal was pretty fair.

Anyway, here's the pm's:


chasacar86 - Still have the v brown /25?

tripledouble - Whats your offer?

chasacar86 - Could I see a scan of it one more time please?

(sends me a scan)

chasacar86 - I think my offer was around 60 last time..I can do 80. Baldwin just got 102 and he's a starter with first round talent, Brown is a WR3 with 3rd round talent. I also picked up a Rudolph VIK logo for 100, and those patches sell really well. I'm sure you know this but this is just my mentality on the offer. I found one I think I can get for 90 but I did remember seeing this one and liking it. Lmk, paypal ready to go.

tripledouble - No thanks, just sold for $140. little off on the pricing.

chasacar86 - A V Brown did? Can you direct me to a link?

tripledouble - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=190681009852

chasacar86 - Wow. I can buy a gold chrome auto for 130 if I want lol someone got themselves...that card for 140 lol. Nice sale for sure, but no way I'd pay close to that for Brown.

But let's get back to the timeline here, you sold the card and asked me to make an offer on it for your own amusement correct?

tripledouble - #1 I would never sell a skill position players top tier card for $60, even though i hate the chargers.
#2 Absolutely for my amusement.


Didn't want to create this as I hate drama, but hopefully it'll be put to good use for good buyers out there. Just a sh*tty move that was completely unnecessary and a big waste of time (that has turned into an even bigger waste of time creating this thread).

Just a heads up to save anybody else a headache...apparently it's o.k. in this guy's mind to make it appear he has something available when it's already off the table, and that's somebody I wouldn't want to deal with since I consider myself one of the better sellers on the forum and hold myself to a much higher standard.
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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what a dick.

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Old 07-17-2012, 04:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That isnt right.
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
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well same as the guy who left me a neutral as retailiation... i left him one for making an offer i accept he failed to pay so he got neutraled but his view is if he didnt pay we never had a deal... what a douche... my view if I send you my paypal after you make an offer thats as close to a deal being agreed upon as there will ever be...
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
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wow, what a buffoon
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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That is dirty, why not say it was sold upfront TD?

The one thing that pops into my head is what if you would have offered 145. Would he have cancelled ebay transaction and sold it to you matt? Really shows a persons
Character when something like this happens

Will be interesting to see if feedback is left, a lot shenanigans out there with fake sales, but I hope he has not sank that low, bit after what he did to you matt I would not put it past him
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:00 PM   #7 (permalink)
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What a low class pathetic move

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Old 07-17-2012, 05:21 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm glad you posted this because these are the kind of buyers that I don't ever want to deal with. As Timmy said, I guarantee you that if you offered more than what he sold it for he would cancel and take the few extra dollars. He won't be getting any of my money.
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Long story short, I contacted a member (tripledouble) about a card they presented to me a while back (Vincent Brown NT /25)...back then, over a month ago, they were going for mid 50s- mid 70s so I think I offered him 60 paypal for it? Today I offered him 80 with the intent to go up to 90, since a Jon Baldwin recently went for 102 and I bought a Rudolph VIK /25 for 100, and I'd categorize those three guys in a similar young pass catchers ready to break out group.

I try not to lowball, but I do like getting pc stuff for solid prices and I had no idea this had just sold for 140 two days ago since it did not have /25 in the title. I obviously wouldn't have inquired had I saw the same exact card there. Looking on ebay right now I see a few /99's that went for 35-45 and some golds that went for 50-75. So I thought targeting 90 paypal was pretty fair.

Anyway, here's the pm's:


chasacar86 - Still have the v brown /25?

tripledouble - Whats your offer?

chasacar86 - Could I see a scan of it one more time please?

(sends me a scan)

chasacar86 - I think my offer was around 60 last time..I can do 80. Baldwin just got 102 and he's a starter with first round talent, Brown is a WR3 with 3rd round talent. I also picked up a Rudolph VIK logo for 100, and those patches sell really well. I'm sure you know this but this is just my mentality on the offer. I found one I think I can get for 90 but I did remember seeing this one and liking it. Lmk, paypal ready to go.

tripledouble - No thanks, just sold for $140. little off on the pricing.

chasacar86 - A V Brown did? Can you direct me to a link?

tripledouble - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=190681009852

chasacar86 - Wow. I can buy a gold chrome auto for 130 if I want lol someone got themselves...that card for 140 lol. Nice sale for sure, but no way I'd pay close to that for Brown.

But let's get back to the timeline here, you sold the card and asked me to make an offer on it for your own amusement correct?

tripledouble - #1 I would never sell a skill position players top tier card for $60, even though i hate the chargers.
#2 Absolutely for my amusement.


Didn't want to create this as I hate drama, but hopefully it'll be put to good use for good buyers out there. Just a sh*tty move that was completely unnecessary and a big waste of time (that has turned into an even bigger waste of time creating this thread).

Just a heads up to save anybody else a headache...apparently it's o.k. in this guy's mind to make it appear he has something available when it's already off the table, and that's somebody I wouldn't want to deal with since I consider myself one of the better sellers on the forum and hold myself to a much higher standard.
You are a lowballer sir. You said $60 for the card.
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You are a lowballer sir. You said $60 for the card.
so the above pm where he offers 80 is falsely edited?
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You are a lowballer sir. You said $60 for the card.
A month and a half ago my offer was 60 because they were going for way less...that's why your last pm confused me...why would you say I offered 60 when my initial offer was 80 today? I copied and pasted the pm that said my offer was 80 and I still have it...idk maybe you need to read better?...and everyone knows there's room to barter back and forth...it's fine, I really don't care I'll just never deal with you in the future and neither will a lot of people who read this. Now that is amusing
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so the above pm where he offers 80 is falsely edited?
Absolutely not
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You are a lowballer sir. You said $60 for the card.
Wanna see a lowballer? It's hot as piss outside and my sack is hanging down to my knees.
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You are a lowballer sir. You said $60 for the card.
and you're a jackass for asking him to make you an offer on the card when you'd already sold it 2 days earlier. what his offer was ($80 not $60 if I read above correctly) is beside the point...

simple fact is, he asked about the card, you said make an offer even though you'd already sold the thing. that's just a classless dumbass move. It doesn't matter if he offered you $80 or $60 or 2 freakin cents...

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Wanna see a lowballer? It's hot as piss outside and my sack is hanging down to my knees.
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sounds like its more likely they stick to his calves...LOL
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Old 07-17-2012, 06:05 PM   #17 (permalink)
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wow real low move from the seller, ill defintily stay away thanks for posting Matt
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Old 07-17-2012, 07:54 PM   #18 (permalink)
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What a loser POS move on a wonderful member here. Thanks for sharing this Matt and i hope the site rids of this idiot.
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Old 07-17-2012, 07:55 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I cant believe that people will sell thier word and integrity for a couple of dollars. Have some pride for gods sake.
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Matt has been a long time highend customer witha a stellar reputation!! Will always do business with him!! I WILL VOUCHE FOR MATT AND HIS OPINIONS ALWAYS....THIS GUY SOUNDS LIKE A TYPICAL JANKY SCUNT!!!
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Wanna see a lowballer? It's hot as piss outside and my sack is hanging down to my knees.
He's telling the truth, I follow him on Twitter and saw the pics.
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He's telling the truth, I follow him on Twitter and saw the pics.
(scrambles to jump on Twitter...)

and thanks everyone for the support and kind words...now Drew get back to your phone so we can get a deal done
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Old 07-18-2012, 12:53 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Matt, everyone knows you are a great member. Trying to Buy a card off someone and then being told he was faking you out for his sheer amusement is disgusting! Thanks for the warning!

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Old 07-18-2012, 12:54 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Hey Matt answer your texts!!
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That is unless you want me to give the deal of the century away to someone else!!!
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