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Old 07-23-2012, 01:09 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:15 AM   #27 (permalink)
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thats one thing about trading sites.......there some bad apples
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:19 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:35 AM   #29 (permalink)
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People make mistakes, but most dont apologize.

Neema and I have done thousands worth of transactions without a hitch. Other friends have as well.
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:38 AM   #30 (permalink)
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People make mistakes, but most dont apologize.

Neema and I have done thousands worth of transactions without a hitch. Other friends have as well.
i can second that .. and this thread is Just to much reading for me in one night
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:44 AM   #31 (permalink)
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A few rules have been broken here.

1. No Cussing on the forums

2. PM's cannot be posted for the public (hence PRIVATE MESSAGES)

Neema is a great guy. I belive i bought and traded both with him. No problems. And neema, also in your defense, i hate saying no to people as well, if that helps
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:48 AM   #32 (permalink)
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A few rules have been broken here.

1. No Cussing on the forums

2. PM's cannot be posted for the public (hence PRIVATE MESSAGES)

Neema is a great guy. I belive i bought and traded both with him. No problems. And neema, also in your defense, i hate saying no to people as well, if that helps
I learned it by watching him!!! Just say NO
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:53 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I sold him like $1500 of cards a couple weeks ago and he was pretty easy to deal with on it. You know why it's dumb to do trades on the internet...because of stuff like this. Paypal is AMAZING, it costs a little amount of money and it takes care of all of this crap. If I ever did a trade on here for even $100 of cards or more and it wasn't with someone I already know I would just suggest that you BUY his cards with pp and he BUY yours with pp, then you each trade money and cards and each are protected from all of this stupid stuff. Sorry that you didn't do a deal, but it isn't like the guy ripped you off. How many times have each of us posted that we wanted a card and it was "already sold", stuff happens before payment is made, but I cannot imagine getting super pissed because someone backed out of a deal and just didn't do it.

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Old 07-23-2012, 02:07 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I don't side either way. Alls I know is once a liar always a liar especially over something so petty. I've done business with DRMCGUI and always smooth. I've talked deals with NEEMA and seems also like a good guy so no personal opinion outside of liars just rub me the wrong way. Just like the TomBradyCamNewton guy here where 1 small lie after being researched opened up 50 bigger lies. Usually that's the case. I wonder what the 1 small lie here will open up if anything.
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Is anyone over 12 years old here? Jesus....
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:16 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Sometimes deals just don't make it all the way to the end. Trades are tough. Backing out on a deal is frustrating, but Neema probably should have just backed out without the run around. That being said, calling out a good standing member for pulling out on a deal where no cards/cash has changed hands is unneccesary. Usually when one person is so bent about a deal going south, it's because it was a one sided deal to begin with.
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Is anyone over 12 years old here? Jesus....
A few people but not many. Lol. I don't like the PM's being published though. That's some bull. This is a hobby and a business for alot of us, and the idea of my business documents and private discussions being posted for all to see would really anger me. Yes cards do pay some of our bills. Doesn't pay all of mine but does pay alot and I could easily be blackmailed on here for PRIVATE conversations I have had with members I have become friends with if they wanted to blackmail me. I don't like the whole do what I want or I'll throw you under a bus thing. Nor do I like the lying. But ethics has nothing to do with the cards business anymore. It's mostly corrupted with pack rats and people who would sell their kid into slavery for a Bryce harper superfractor auto. For every 1 guy I meet here who seems like a good guy I meet 5 who I wish never PM me again.
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:37 AM   #38 (permalink)
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i can second that .. and this thread is Just to much reading for me in one night
I can third this. Deal with him all the time in person at local shows all the time without any issues
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Cliffs anybody?
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Is anyone over 12 years old here? Jesus....
I, my friend, am 28 years old and have little hair left to prove it... hahaha
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Is anyone over 12 years old here? Jesus....
Im 14 and a half.
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Old 07-23-2012, 03:55 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I have done numerous deals with Drmcgui, and I can say he has NEVER been shady. Everything has always been smooth. I can understand backing out of a deal, but to lie about it is ridiculous. And to stage an eBay sale is even more so. I have seen negative feedback for people backing out of a deal on numerous accounts here. Look, if I was in the process of making a deal, and someone lied to me and staged a fake sale, wouldn't you expect me to tell you guys? I would hope you guys would make me aware of it.
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:06 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Cliffs anybody?
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: neema agreed to a trade with drmcgui but backed out due to another member agreeing to a more desirable trade to him involving the same card(s) and lied to drmcgui in an attempt to cover his questionable actions.

OUTLINED CLIFFS:

- Members drmcgui and neema come to terms to a trade and agree to conduct it

- After agreeing to the trade, neema later tells drmcgui that a card involved in the trade has since been sold on Ebay - drmcgui questions veracity of statement
- drmcgui brings up points to support his suspicion

- Being caught in a lie, neema acknowledges that he was lying and apologizes (of note, drmcgui claims that the apology was done in a condescending manner with neema referring to him as a "douche" in it)
- A member neema had been working a deal with from three days ago, that included a card from the agreed upon trade with drmcgui, responded after neema and drmcgui agreed upon their trade
- neema decided to forgo his agreement with drmcgui and conduct the trade with this other member instead
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"neema exposed...am i a douche?" Dangit I thought this was a porn thread!
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:27 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Neema in the wrong -- anything that transpires after Neema gets cold feet doesn't matter. Neema has decided to renege on a deal after agreeing to it.

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EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: neema agreed to a trade with drmcgui but backed out due to another member agreeing to a more desirable trade to him involving the same card(s) and lied to drmcgui in an attempt to cover his questionable actions.

OUTLINED CLIFFS:

- Members drmcgui and neema come to terms to a trade and agree to conduct it

- After agreeing to the trade, neema later tells drmcgui that a card involved in the trade has since been sold on Ebay - drmcgui questions veracity of statement
- drmcgui brings up points to support his suspicion

- Being caught in a lie, neema acknowledges that he was lying and apologizes (of note, drmcgui claims that the apology was done in a condescending manner with neema referring to him as a "douche" in it)
- A member neema had been working a deal with from three days ago, that included a card from the agreed upon trade with drmcgui, responded after neema and drmcgui agreed upon their trade
- neema decided to forgo his agreement with drmcgui and conduct the trade with this other member instead
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:22 AM   #48 (permalink)
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People make mistakes, but most dont apologize.

Neema and I have done thousands worth of transactions without a hitch. Other friends have as well.
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i can second that .. and this thread is Just to much reading for me in one night
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I can third this. Deal with him all the time in person at local shows all the time without any issues
These 3 guys saying this makes me side with neema, but..........

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This guy is full of it! I lied to him yes I did. The fact is I lied because I felt bad saying no to him. Given I should not have done that
This seems to be a common problem on here.

I don't understand how people have no problem acting so tuff on the Internet yet they can't say no.
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