Haiku Suspended- Rumors of massive scam emerge..

[tnarg]

Does anybody want me to really put their antennas up or should I leave it be?

[sd_navarre]

Originally Posted by tnarg

Does anybody want me to really put their antennas up or should I leave it be?

I do belive a page or two back somebody was actually waiting and looking forward to tnarg's comments....

[danimal]

Originally Posted by jeff152380

Where is blowout in all of this???? This is taking place on your site and I would think you would try to research this and make a announcement about what going on....

I bought a mystery lot and paid by PayPal goods and credit card... So covered times 2, but I would like to here more details from somebody who can fully research this mess.... Blowout rep where you at???? This turns out to be a scam and gets out to media it's going to look awful for this site.....

Hehe! Did I call that or what! This same pattern repeats its self every time!

Originally Posted by danimal
For all of you who say trust this Haiku guy, he is just going though some "stuff" right now. Please let me tell you what has really happened. I have seen this play out 2-3 times on this forum and it always ends with the thief stealing a massive amount of money. He set you all up with smaller deals just to steal all your money when he offers some huge dollar deals.

1. Member becomes known as great guy
2. Member completes lots of small deals at first and moves on to mid to higher priced deals.
3. Member starts offering a few great deals and quickly ships.
4. Member then offers some huge high dollar amazing deals and lot of people buy.
5. Member has "personal" problems and can't ship, nearly all communication stops.
6. Member gets suspended.
7. Member gets another member to post vague responses on his behalf, assuring everyone is ok.
8. At some point people come to the realization they have been scammed.
9. People start to blame BO - it's not really their fault but it happens everytime.

[nickha2]

These members are going to need all the help they can get. We are talking about $20,000 most of which these members dont really have to begin with. So yes put their antennas up

[Boo]

Originally Posted by jeff152380

Where is blowout in all of this???? This is taking place on your site and I would think you would try to research this and make a announcement about what going on....

I bought a mystery lot and paid by PayPal goods and credit card... So covered times 2, but I would like to here more details from somebody who can fully research this mess.... Blowout rep where you at???? This turns out to be a scam and gets out to media it's going to look awful for this site.....

STFU. BO is not in any way liable for people being stupid. Sorry.

[sd_navarre]

Originally Posted by nickha2

these members are going to need all the help they can get. We are talking about $20,000 most of which these members dont really have to begin with. So yes put their antennas up

stop buying cards then

[danimal]

Originally Posted by tnarg

Does anybody want me to really put their antennas up or should I leave it be?

Bring it!!!!!!

[dusty1218]

Originally Posted by nickha2

You guys are protected via paypal. If the police get involved paypal will have to release where his bank account it active.

You guys are all missing the point here...you all bought a mystery lot. This guy did nothing illegal. All he has to do is send you a package. It does not matter what is in it as you bought a mystery lot...what is illegal about what he did? It is unethical, but all of you who fell for it are going to learn an expensive lesson about buying stuff online without knowing what you get. Paypal and the police will tell you the same thing. Sorry for everyone involved

[jeff152380]

I'm not blaming blowout... I'm asking why they don't get involved in what could be the biggest scam under their name.... Sitting back doing nothing is not the right move on their part...... I'm covered I'm not worried about that part... Blowout needs to help for good PR

[DanShakespeare]

Originally Posted by jeff152380

Where is blowout in all of this???? This is taking place on your site and I would think you would try to research this and make a announcement about what going on....

I bought a mystery lot and paid by PayPal goods and credit card... So covered times 2, but I would like to here more details from somebody who can fully research this mess.... Blowout rep where you at???? This turns out to be a scam and gets out to media it's going to look awful for this site.....

Nobody probably reported him, like they always do. Make a call out thread bitch and moan for hours then a week later they bitch about him more, a mod chimes in saying they knew nothing about it.

[nickha2]

Its easier said than done. What haiku said the other night was right most of the members on here spend their money down to the last cent in their bank account on cards instead of providing for their families and this is just a hobby not life or death. Lets be honest here alot of us are "addicted" to collecting

[Boo]

Originally Posted by jeff152380

I'm not blaming blowout... I'm asking why they don't get involved in what could be the biggest scam under their name.... Sitting back doing nothing is not the right move on their part...... I'm covered I'm not worried about that part... Blowout needs to help for good PR

Everyone that thinks they got scammed should send a PM with details to a Mod...they don't read every thread/post.

[Andrew Jones]

Originally Posted by pcbuck

I wonder what gatorboyinTN has to say about this. He seemed close to haiku.

Shocking.

[danimal]

Originally Posted by jeff152380

I'm not blaming blowout... I'm asking why they don't get involved in what could be the biggest scam under their name.... Sitting back doing nothing is not the right move on their part...... I'm covered I'm not worried about that part... Blowout needs to help for good PR

You realize all this came out in the last 12 hours right? What is BO suppose to do a 4 am on a Monday morning?

[csmtampa]

Hold up. I know mystery lots aren't allowed on BO because I've seen some members try to list them and get called out on it.

But haiku listed them and no one said anything?

[ManInTheMirror]

shoot........

[sd_navarre]

Originally Posted by danimal

You realize all this came out in the last 12 hours right? What is BO suppose to do a 4 am on a Monday morning?

Drink coffee, read this thread.... the same as everyone else

[ManInTheMirror]

Originally Posted by nickha2

Its easier said than done. What haiku said the other night was right most of the members on here spend their money down to the last cent in their bank account on cards instead of providing for their families and this is just a hobby not life or death. Lets be honest here alot of us are "addicted" to collecting

I've never been addicted to anything in my life, and that's the damn truth.

Another thing I want you to know is that you can hardly learn a person's true self on the internet. Some people try but other's don't. Some let other's do it for them. Just think about that as we all move on from this however it ends up.

[jeff152380]

Blowout reaped all the benefits its of haiku free giveaways.... Now I'm just saying if you run a site monitor it... Make a post....Help people out, do some research on the biggest issue your site has ever had..... It's not asking much

[Boo]

30+ pages...unless someone starts dropping f bombs

[Andrew Jones]

Originally Posted by dusty1218

You guys are all missing the point here...you all bought a mystery lot. This guy did nothing illegal. All he has to do is send you a package. It does not matter what is in it as you bought a mystery lot...what is illegal about what he did? It is unethical, but all of you who fell for it are going to learn an expensive lesson about buying stuff online without knowing what you get. Paypal and the police will tell you the same thing. Sorry for everyone involved

Especially if the package he ships is labeled Best of Haiku.

[indyguy]

Originally Posted by Andrew Jones

Especially if the package he ships is labeled Best of Haiku.

Haiku = Brian Gray? This thing has really come full circle!

"Follow the drugs and you find a drug dealer. Follow the money..."

[mcgahee21nfl]

sad to see this happen, but i must add this....

it goes to show what happens when you judge someones character strictly on what they will give to you

the guy was giving out handouts, and he was proclaimed to be a great guy because of it. from an outside perspective, i did not ever view him as a great guy, but viewed the people accepting the handouts and proclaiming him to be great were even lesser

now i realize there is a bunch of children on this board, but to us grown adults... do we really need to keep judging a persons credibility based on what they give to us?

a good parallel i think i can make, and will not harp on it past this post, is that of panini and upper deck when they give us free giveaways and we praise them for it. we don't look both ways, we just take and say omg they are so good thank you. completely overlooking all reasons for caution, and even times where they were wrong or have wronged others.

i say the accepting of free stuff/good deals that are clearly undeserving, past the fact that someone says they are "doing it out of kindness" is the problem. if they are giving you that "kindness" you should kindly decline to accept as a form of kindness back towards them

[nickha2]

Someone take their package they got from his sales and scan it for a fingerprint then cross reference in the fbi database.

[cdizz]

Originally Posted by dusty1218

You guys are all missing the point here...you all bought a mystery lot. This guy did nothing illegal. All he has to do is send you a package. It does not matter what is in it as you bought a mystery lot...what is illegal about what he did? It is unethical, but all of you who fell for it are going to learn an expensive lesson about buying stuff online without knowing what you get. Paypal and the police will tell you the same thing. Sorry for everyone involved

This x100. It was never specified what anyone was getting. Biggest rope-a-dope of all time. Sorry for all involved, but it is an expensive lesson in if it's too good to be true..