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Old 12-20-2012, 06:47 PM   #3826 (permalink)
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first off no one should trust anything anyone says about any of this except for what the mods say and they have said they aren't saying anything at the moment. I have no clue who is in on what, but i know that if i was screwed out of money in this scheme that i would be going to the proper channels to get my money back and make sure the people responsible are caught. How anyone can think that because someone sounds legit over the phone amazes me. Heck next time a person murders someone just take them for their word that they didn't do it because they seemed sincere over the phone. Again i have no clue who is involved and who isn't, but if you guys keep believing everything people say in this forum you are setting yourself up for more problems.
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Don't get so hasty there, there is a small possibility that they took a break from the interenets...

I'm not saying your wrong, I just don't think that itself is a tell.
Don't take this the wrong way, as I am not going to defend anyone in this matter. I will say that if I were in either of their shoes at the moment, there would be no way you would have me on here. We have already established as a community that it wouldn't matter what they say right now, NO ONE would believe them. While it remains to be seen, their guilt or innocence, it would be safer to sit back and wait until the full truth has been revealed. Then go back and make an attempt to justify stupid actions
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Here my take on it all.

Bronco, saket, allstars, and blackmamba are all in on it.

As well as a few very well respected members.

Why do I say this??

Well think about it.. Every time someone Brings up some info that seem useful or could be a big help, some respected vet comes out of no where and shoots it down.

Every time they would tell all of us that we were "haikus" lemmings they were right... We were lemmings to their own scheme and would believe everything they ever said to us because they are "respected vets" and everyone trusts them and thinks they are right.

Well guess what... We all trusted haiku too

Hahaha, so spit it out...are you saying I'm in on it too now?


How come none of you limpdick, wannabe detectives have bothered to call? Are you scared to find out the truth? It seems like people would rather play their little games of guess-who, then actually make any concrete efforts at the truth.

Only 1 person has taken him/me up on the offer. If you actually do, you will see that he's far from a professional. Please, if you want truth, why not talk to a person you are accusing, if he is fully willing to talk?
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Don't take this the wrong way, as I am not going to defend anyone in this matter. I will say that if I were in either of their shoes at the moment, there would be no way you would have me on here. We have already established as a community that it wouldn't matter what they say right now, NO ONE would believe them. While it remains to be seen, their guilt or innocence, it would be safer to sit back and wait until the full truth has been revealed. Then go back and make an attempt to justify stupid actions
If anything it sounds like we're on the same page?
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I'm in on it too
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I just finished reading this. I came to the conclusion that I am the only one not in on this scam. Good thing yall did not get my money. Nice try tho.
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[How come none of you limpdick, wannabe detectives have bothered to call? Are you scared to find out the truth? It seems like people would rather play their little games of guess-who, then actually make any concrete efforts at the truth.

Only 1 person has taken him/me up on the offer. If you actually do, you will see that he's far from a professional. Please, if you want truth, why not talk to a person you are accusing, if he is fully willing to talk? [/B]
LOLOLOLOLOLOL

I have some ocean front property in AZ to sell you. Call me, I will tell you all about it.

I am most certainly NOT confirming or denying anything, all I am saying is PEOPLE HAVE LIED OVER THE PHONE.

I actually considered you to be one of the smarter more articulate people on this thread, but after this....

What qualifes you to be an over the phone lie detector anyways??
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If you believe that 6 months is enough time to be "respected" to the tune that Haiku was, then I feel for you. Do you realize how many members chose not to partake in his business? I guess those of us that passed on his "incredible" deals just respected him too much to rip him off.
Agreed. In this case, "respect" equalled "greed". All were hoping for that $1,000 card and only having to pay $10 for it. Respect should be earned, not given away for a price.
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Here my take on it all.

Bronco, saket, allstars, and blackmamba are all in on it.

As well as a few very well respected members.

Why do I say this??

Well think about it.. Every time someone Brings up some info that seem useful or could be a big help, some respected vet comes out of no where and shoots it down.

Every time they would tell all of us that we were "haikus" lemmings they were right... We were lemmings to their own scheme and would believe everything they ever said to us because they are "respected vets" and everyone trusts them and thinks they are right.

Well guess what... We all trusted haiku too
I agree with almost all of what you say.
These guys are probably working together to scam paypal.
I'm not sure about allstars because he was scammed out of cards, not paypal.
Anyone who thinks that bronco is innocent, should try to answer this question.
Where does someone who's a former teacher working less than 8 years, who's now unemployed, who's wife is a teacher, get $11,000 to "invest" in cards?
That plus the fact that he alledgedly sent $11,000 paypal GIFT to someone
he doesnt know. That plus the fact that his wife hasn't killed him yet.
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Agreed. In this case, "respect" equalled "greed". All were hoping for that $1,000 card and only having to pay $10 for it. Respect should be earned, not given away for a price.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL

I have some ocean front property in AZ to sell you. Call me, I will tell you all about it.

I am most certainly NOT confirming or denying anything, all I am saying is PEOPLE HAVE LIED OVER THE PHONE.

I actually considered you to be one of the smarter more articulate people on this thread, but after this....

What qualifes you to be an over the phone lie detector anyways??
Sounds like we are on the same page...I have no concrete proof that Haiku acted alone or that it's a gang of scammers but at this point why believe someone just because you talked to them on the phone. Pros can be very convincing.
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Agreed. In this case, "respect" equalled "greed". All were hoping for that $1,000 card and only having to pay $10 for it. Respect should be earned, not given away for a price.
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I will post this yet again, as it went ignored. But this is an important piece.

kdg201 | eBay

^ That is broncomanning's ebay.

kilroystorage | eBay

^ That is cardshow's eBay.

Now Jason (bronco) claims that he has the patches due to them being purchased from cardshow (with purpose of flipping). He claims to only know him from this site. Now this either does him in or sets him free. Overlook those eBay accounts and let me know what your thoughts are.
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:01 PM   #3839 (permalink)
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It is not that complicated to make all of us non-believers to look like fools. File a police report, present a copy of the report, that's it. Shut us all up.
I cannot believe someone who is out 4K in cards and 11k in cash has not talked to the police. Don't say I don't want my wife to find out. The +%$# has already hit the fan. She will find out soon enough.
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Hahaha, so spit it out...are you saying I'm in on it too now?


How come none of you limpdick, wannabe detectives have bothered to call? Are you scared to find out the truth? It seems like people would rather play their little games of guess-who, then actually make any concrete efforts at the truth.

Only 1 person has taken him/me up on the offer. If you actually do, you will see that he's far from a professional. Please, if you want truth, why not talk to a person you are accusing, if he is fully willing to talk?
Sorry if you disagree with my post, but the fact of the matter is, I have disagreed with most of yours as well.

Edit: I made it bold for you, just like you made it for me
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL

I have some ocean front property in AZ to sell you. Call me, I will tell you all about it.

I am most certainly NOT confirming or denying anything, all I am saying is PEOPLE HAVE LIED OVER THE PHONE.

I actually considered you to be one of the smarter more articulate people on this thread, but after this....

What qualifes you to be an over the phone lie detector anyways??
Got to agree. Social Engineering at its finest!
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Sorry if you disagree with my post, but the fact of the matter is, I have disagreed with most of yours as well.

Edit: I made it bold for you, just like you made it for me
It looks so much cooler if you make it even bigger and bolder.
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Sorry if you disagree with my post, but the fact of the matter is, I have disagreed with most of yours as well.

Edit: I made it bold for you, just like you made it for me
So am I in on it, mr. detective? Please, since you have it all figured out. Please tell me.
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I will post this yet again, as it went ignored. But this is an important piece.

kdg201 | eBay

^ That is broncomanning's ebay.

kilroystorage | eBay

^ That is cardshow's eBay.

Now Jason (bronco) claims that he has the patches due to them being purchased from cardshow (with purpose of flipping). He claims to only know him from this site. Now this either does him in or sets him free. Overlook those eBay accounts and let me know what your thoughts are.
How can this determine anything?
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It looks so much cooler if you make it even bigger and bolder.
lol.... That is the first time I bolded anything on this thread. Just figured i should do it since he did lol
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So am I in on it, mr. detective? Please, since you have it all figured out. Please tell me.
I said SEVERAL respected vet members
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Not sure Wilson even collects cards anymore so pretty sure he is out

However I had Chinese food last night
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Def not reading the 800 new posts just today alone. Left roughly around the 3000 mark last night
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I said SEVERAL respected vet members
So am I one of them? Don't beat around the bush, just spit it out.
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And Wilson could be one?
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