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Old 12-17-2012, 02:52 PM   #751 (permalink)
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I'm 99% sure this is not Haiku aka Jay Morgan

So, post a real pic of yourself Jay/Haiku/stearclear.
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Once again, I don't know how to say it anymore more clear. HE TOLD ME TOO

My whole account has been Fraud. Please read.

HE USED THIS EXACT SAME APPROACH ON ME, AND I AM WELL OVER $5,000 OUT. I DON'T THINK BEING MONEY OUT MEANS I AM IN HIS PLAN WHEN I AM A CLEAR CUT VICTIM.
This is how scammers/cons work:

1) Get others involved early
2) Use them to your advantage
3) Leave them to pick up the pieces

Someone stated earlier that there was probably a network of others helping, but in reality, it seems he just used some of the members that he got his hooks into to do most of the work for him.
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I'm not even going into this with you.
Im just saying. If you intended to scam someone, you wouldn't provide actual photos of yourself. I'm not saying that Scammer is the same as this. Just don't think the photos are worth anything.
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I did it under the influence of He Who Shall Not Be Named.

I referenced HP in a PM to Wheeler. figured i'd do it here.
If you are going to quote HP, at least you the appropriate curses name "Imperious"
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Gonna post some names out there. The following are suspicious to me right now

***DISCLAIMER*** I do NOT have any conclusive evidence on any of these people, it is just a "person of interest" list.

stearclear, Braylon1, saketm92

All three of you have been connected to each other/to Haiku, and have either given no info, dissapeared, or very, VERY shady editing of posts.
take a hike bro. i want Haiku to rot in hell. He got over on me for a 5-figure sum.

Braylon is my friend in REAL LIFE - not this fantasy BS card collecting forum world

I've told my story in previous posts. feel free to look it up. I dont owe you any explanations other than I'm one of MANY here to get screwed by Haiku aka Jay Morgan aka ???
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Jay is not white. Unless he has a voice changer.
What does that even mean? What exactly is a white voice?
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Who knows what is true. But I can say I started snooping around last night after seeing stearclear post agin in a thread and mention Haiku. I then got in touch with Braylon. Then all hell broke lose.

Like I said I highly doubt either of them had anything to do with it. Since my tip came from them before the threads started.
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If you are going to quote HP, at least you the appropriate curses name "Imperious"
are you Wheeler as well?

because I definitely used the wrong spell in the PM to him hahahaha.
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Dafuq is going on? This is getting messy.
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Jay is not white. Unless he has a voice changer.
lmao you're a clown...
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Why does all this dang information come out now and not before. I bought the smallest lot under the assumption all of the lots people received were really good! If they are begging for positive feedback that should be screaming to you something might not be right!
That's what I want to know

There are a bunch of respected members coming out now saying they thought something was up with him and had private discussions about it

If they had said something, people wouldn't have gone nuts on them because of who these people are, they would have actually listened and taken caution

To be honest, as a purchaser of one of the holiday lots (thankfully the cheapest) I feel hurt that there are so many people who had these feelings and didn't share them at all. I realize its on me in the end, but I don't study all these posts or think about them too hard, I just go with it.

Call me naive, that's fair, but it still stings
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Instead of having a witch hunt and throwing everyone under the bus, the mods could easily just check the IP addresses these people are posting from and easily find out if the posts were made from the same device or even in the same area.
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This is how scammers/cons work:

1) Get others involved early
2) Use them to your advantage
3) Leave them to pick up the pieces

Someone stated earlier that there was probably a network of others helping, but in reality, it seems he just used some of the members that he got his hooks into to do most of the work for him.
He basically did that to me, and then threw me to the ground. He leveraged members like me and then threw us to the ground.
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Instead of having a witch hunt and throwing everyone under the bus, the mods could easily just check the IP addresses these people are posting from and easily find out if the posts were made from the same device or even in the same area.
Exactly, I hope the mods do, and prevent the people from making stuff up to stop.
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Why does all this dang information come out now and not before. I bought the smallest lot under the assumption all of the lots people received were really good! If they are begging for positive feedback that should be screaming to you something might not be right!
I posted a few time 7-10 days ago with some cryptic warnings. Nothing specific - just saying be careful. Those posts were IMMEDIATELY erased by mods...
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I got caught up in the hoopla and purcahsed a smaller lot from him. I was wondering if people were getting/working together to gather as much information as possible to help support our claims. I called my bank and they were unable to do anything (hopefully people used their CC for backup unlike me).
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take a hike bro. i want Haiku to rot in hell. He got over on me for a 5-figure sum.

Braylon is my friend in REAL LIFE - not this fantasy BS card collecting forum world

I've told my story in previous posts. feel free to look it up. I dont owe you any explanations other than I'm one of MANY here to get screwed by Haiku aka Jay Morgan aka ???
Fine, burn me at the stake, I guess we should just trust everyone, right?
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He basically did that to me, and then threw me to the ground. He leveraged members like me and then threw us to the ground.
I'll post on this thread also------
All this suspicion and in-fighting amongst members----you all do realize that this is exactly whats supposed to happen, right?
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So, post a real pic of yourself Jay/Haiku/stearclear.
give me a break. i'm one of the victims.

you are just one of the trouble makers....
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lmao you're a clown...
Just saying, I know a honky when I speak to one.
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He basically did that to me, and then threw me to the ground. He leveraged members like me and then threw us to the ground.
Still don't believe you

Not that hard to keep up this mirage when is all in the Internet, and those payments you showed us, not that hard to send payments to yourself or a friend when you're in on the scam

I don't care if he asked you to post a thank you thread or any of that, the fact that you said he was a family friend was all on you, you were also the first person to ever mention how he was richer than any of us imagined, you started that rolling ball

You then go in and edit those things today instead of highlighting them and saying the things you're saying now, you are hoping nobody would remember it and nobody would go snooping

You sir are a liar and I will NEVER believe another one of your posts
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He basically did that to me, and then threw me to the ground. He leveraged members like me and then threw us to the ground.
i do not have a dog in this fight at all as i was fortunate enough not to buy a single thing from this guy as he was a SmartA** to me from the beginning but with that said i would say saketm92 is not involved at all. I have purchased a few high end cards and have been very pleased.
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I got caught up in the hoopla and purcahsed a smaller lot from him. I was wondering if people were getting/working together to gather as much information as possible to help support our claims. I called my bank and they were unable to do anything (hopefully people used their CC for backup unlike me).
Would it matter if we using a DC or a CC?
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Now, Im not going to say anything else here, simply as I dont havea nything to say in the matter. But, these are 2 names on the questionable list and they both are out 5k each? Seems odd to me.


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take a hike bro. i want Haiku to rot in hell. He got over on me for a 5-figure sum.

Braylon is my friend in REAL LIFE - not this fantasy BS card collecting forum world

I've told my story in previous posts. feel free to look it up. I dont owe you any explanations other than I'm one of MANY here to get screwed by Haiku aka Jay Morgan aka ???

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Once again, I don't know how to say it anymore more clear. HE TOLD ME TOO

My whole account has been Fraud. Please read.

HE USED THIS EXACT SAME APPROACH ON ME, AND I AM WELL OVER $5,000 OUT. I DON'T THINK BEING MONEY OUT MEANS I AM IN HIS PLAN WHEN I AM A CLEAR CUT VICTIM.
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