Haiku Suspended- Rumors of massive scam emerge..

[37Jetson]

Yall talk to each other on the phone a lot. Heck I don't talk that often to my Mother 600 miles away.

There are lots of lies being told in this thread. Just waiting to see what is the truth and what is a lie.

Originally Posted by stearclear

I agree with Gator. I spoke to him a few times on the phone and that was my conclusion as well....

[hotbox]

Originally Posted by Wings

Start reading

Here's to wasting the next two hours

[Ajax1723]

Originally Posted by zonacats8

YOU SAID HE WAS A FAMILY FRIEND

You "being out the money" is no proof of anything, not hard to get that "proof" if you were in on it from the start

You still have no reason to have said he was a family friend and to have started the discussion about how much money he has

Those are FACTS, indisputable facts that you perpetrated yourself

This. You lied, therefore, you are suspicious.

Interesting that the only 3 people that are mad that I said those names are them. If you do suspicious things, you are going to have less credibility. Deal with it, and if you truly did nothing wrong, then your name will be cleared, and I wil submit an apology. If I said nothing and one of you ends up being in on this, it will just lead to more "why didn't you say anything?" claims that we already have enough of.

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by stearclear

I know this will mean nothing to you and you are gonna believe what you want, but I really think you are barking up the wrong tree going after saketm92...

You're right, means nothing to me, no offense to you with that or anything

But here are some FACTS about saketm92

- He started a thread about how great haiku was
- he stated that he was a close family friend
- he was THE FIRST person on the boards to mention how haiku had more money than anyone imagined
- he "won" the first pair of beats headphones
- he states in here today that he isn't a friend of his and only talked to him on the phone
- he went back and edited his thread from my first few facts TODAY

Smells like a duck, walks like a duck..................

[jimssouvenirs]

Originally Posted by saketm92

Once again, I don't know how to say it anymore more clear. HE TOLD ME TOO

My whole account has been Fraud. Please read.

HE USED THIS EXACT SAME APPROACH ON ME, AND I AM WELL OVER $5,000 OUT. I DON'T THINK BEING MONEY OUT MEANS I AM IN HIS PLAN WHEN I AM A CLEAR CUT VICTIM.

You told people you knew him personally, and did NOT. If any single person took that as an extra level of confidence, you can consider yourself partially responsible for that individual's current situation.


Did the situation you highlighted in this thread...

The truth about Haiku:

... actually even happen!?

[JzWand]

If you lie to members here that you know so and so in real life and that person goes on to scam a bunch of people, I believe you do have some involvement in it.

You may not have scammed people yourself, but you enabled there scam to be put into motion!

I mean why wouldnt you say "no I am not going to lie to the board"?

Oh he gave you a pair of headphones or something?

If someone asks you to lie for them, chances are they are hiding something or doing something thats not right.

You should value your reputation a lot higher than a pair of headphones and saying you are out $5K because of him doesnt justify lying to the forum!

[37Jetson]

Yall need to provide your real name with proof so we can see your name on the Tnarg thread showing the screen shot of Haiku's victims. I bet this will make a couple of you disappear.

Originally Posted by stearclear

actually im out much more than 5k. i said "5-figure", not 5k...

[Clarka3]

you guys are going to get this one locked if you don't keep it on topic.

make a new thread to continue the finger of suspicion posts.

[DanShakespeare]

How do we even know his name is jay Morgan and is indeed the white rich old looking guy in the pictures we see on that scam website??!! Could he be a younger (20-30) black, Asian, Hispanic? Could he even be the white guy in the photos? Has anybody ever met him in real life? That knows what he looks like?

[49ers_Swag]

Let's just wait on the mods ip trace to determine who has a match. I agree arguing isn't being very productive. Does anyone live near the UPS store or know any of the employees there?

[saketm92]

Originally Posted by jimssouvenirs

You told people you knew him personally, and did NOT. If any single person took that as an extra level of confidence, you can consider yourself partially responsible for that individual's current situation.


Did the situation you highlighted in this thread...

The truth about Haiku:

... actually even happen!?

No, it did NOT happen. He told me to make it because his image will look better.



I hope that screen shot says something too.

[KevJo]

Originally Posted by stearclear

I agree with Gator. I spoke to him a few times on the phone and that was my conclusion as well....

Okay voice experts. He wasnt a honky what was he and describe it in the same racist manner you just did genious!

Kevin

[Ajax1723]

Originally Posted by saketm92

No, it did NOT happen. He told me to make it because his image will look better.



I hope that screen shot says something too.

All the screenshot says is that you opened 5 "Item not as described" cases.

What was not as described? If you actually got the lots, what was in them?

[sdoug76]

Here is my theory. Dec 18th shipping date, nice free loan with no vig.

He laid a major bet or two sure he would double up and be able to come thru with the holiday lots. But he lost.

In a panic or having a gambling problem he contacted one or more people on here to lay more bets for him. He lost again. Now he owes them money too.

[Cubsbball25]

Post in epic thread...

Don't have anything to add, just wanted to say I'm glad I was always too poor to go after any of those lots...

[pierrethomasfan]

Originally Posted by saketm92

No, it did NOT happen. He told me to make it because his image will look better.



I hope that screen shot says something too.

I think I'm trusting this. It doesn't seem like this guy is scamming

[monkeymcgee]

Originally Posted by saketm92

No, it did NOT happen. He told me to make it because his image will look better.

I hope that screen shot says something too.

Did you not wonder why he would ask you to make up that stuff?

[MSD]

Guys stop arguing, you're literally getting no where and not helping the situation at all. You're just flooding this thread with useless posts people involved in this thread are going to have to read through.

[pierrethomasfan]

Originally Posted by sdoug76

Here is my theory. Dec 18th shipping date, nice free loan with no vig.

He laid a major bet or two sure he would double up and be able to come thru with the holiday lots. But he lost.

In a panic or having a gambling problem he contacted one or more people on here to lay more bets for him. He lost again. Now he owes them money too.

Hmmm interesting

[saketm92]

Originally Posted by Ajax1723

All the screenshot says is that you opened 5 "Item not as described" cases.

What was not as described? If you actually got the lots, what was in them?

We worked out a large deal. He sent me some of the stuff at first, and then he said he would send me the rest when it came back from BGS (which was supposed to be today). He then told me BGS was delayed. He sent me some of the cards he had in hand that we worked a deal for (Locker, Lebron MJ dual auto). The Not as described is for the cards that he was supposed to send me from BGS. MJ 9.5 RC, Kobe Limited Logos, Kobe RC Chrome BGS 9.5, Lebron RC Sp authentic auto, and more.

[sd_navarre]

I have read all this from the start this morning --- unbelievable

This just keeps getting better and better... finger pointing.. back stabbing... lies getting pointed out.... edited posts from weeks ago...

The entertainment value is incredible!

[pierrethomasfan]

Originally Posted by monkeymcgee

Did you not wonder why he would ask you to make up that stuff?

Another good point does seem fishy

[epic23]

Am I still nuts broncomanning18?

[pierrethomasfan]

Originally Posted by sd_navarre

I have read all this from the start this morning --- unbelievable

This just keeps getting better and better... finger pointing.. back stabbing... lies getting pointed out.... edited posts from weeks ago...

The entertainment value is incredible!

Grab some snacks and adderall, an all nighter is on deck

[stearclear]

Originally Posted by zonacats8

You're right, means nothing to me, no offense to you with that or anything

But here are some FACTS about saketm92

- He started a thread about how great haiku was
- he stated that he was a close family friend
- he was THE FIRST person on the boards to mention how haiku had more money than anyone imagined
- he "won" the first pair of beats headphones
- he states in here today that he isn't a friend of his and only talked to him on the phone
- he went back and edited his thread from my first few facts TODAY

Smells like a duck, walks like a duck..................

well hes not the only one. many people hung from Haiku's nutsack. its been documented that he harrassed others to make flattering threads/posts about him in exchange for deals or cards. jay told anyone that would listen that he was rich - that was the image he was creating to help pull all of this off. saketm92 was fooled and manipulated by Haiku - just like MANY MANY other people here.

all of this makes saketm92 NIEVE, but not a scammer or Haiku's partner in crime