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Old 12-19-2012, 12:37 AM   #2001 (permalink)
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If the transaction was cancelled like it is shown in which the picture says that you have mutually agreed with the buyer to cancel the transaction, then why did you not leave the "deadbeat" a negative?

can't leave negatives to buyers.
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saketem also got many great deals from haiku and it seemed like he would buy card before it was even posted and this was numerous times very sketchy
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Yeah, that happens when idiots on here make a bet, lose, and don't pay the other member or respond to pms..
I have never made a bet against you can you read betting is not allowed here
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Am I the only one who think Haiku is/or never was a real person... just a made up identity from other scammers working together to divert attention from themselves.... I would speculate all these people claiming to be in contact with him are behind the whole thing..... just my thoughts
Honestly, to pull a scam off this elaborate I think Haiku is one, maybe two people, tops. There would be a significantly greater chance of someone slipping up if there were 3+ people working together IMO.
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Transaction canceled, because buyer never paid. I will not give the name publicly because the buyer seemed to be a deadbeat. Did not answer anything.



As I said before, I did trades with Haiku to drop the prices from the amount I owed from his "BGS order" at the time. That was their after the buyer canceled the transaction.
Obviously he answered your request to cancel the transaction. And why would you not give the name? Why protect him?
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can't leave negatives to buyers.
Gotcha, thanks for clearing it up. Been awhile since I've had to open any cases on ebay, and the last time it happened to me well over a year ago pretty sure it was fair game at that time for either party to leave feedback
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Obviously he answered your request to cancel the transaction. And why would you not give the name? Why protect him?
He shilled it with his other account, won it, agreed with himself to cancel the transaction.

If this is true, I would agree...the guy IS A TOTAL DEADBEAT
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:41 AM   #2008 (permalink)
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Is betting allowed on this site? Negative itrader for not paying a bet? LOL

You and Haiku both neg'd him ehh.
This was during that month when everyone was posting betting threads and nothing was being done by the forums to stop it. We all assumed it was fine. It's not like I bet on here anymore..

So we shouldn't warn others that these guys aren't to be trusted?
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Honestly, to pull a scam off this elaborate I think Haiku is one, maybe two people, tops. There would be a significantly greater chance of someone slipping up if there were 3+ people working together IMO.
I'm starting to come to the conclusion it may just be one person and he simply manipulated a lot of other people on this site
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One thing that strikes me as odd maybe I am just delusional as I have read til my eyes are bleeding...

I have never to my recollection had to prove I sold a card or bought a card to anyone. IF someone said razor you did not buy that card or you didn't sell that card to JOE blow...I would be like f*** yeah I did, end of story...my conscious is clean, no need for me to write a term paper

yet I see all these people claiming to be straight up writing freaking essays on why they did not sell this card or buy that card....i have always been one to believe the more a man tries to talk himself innocent the more it shows his conscious is not clean...
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This was during that month when everyone was posting betting threads and nothing was being done by the forums to stop it. We all assumed it was fine. It's not like I bet on here anymore..

So we shouldn't warn others that these guys aren't to be trusted?
On if they pay up on bets or not, no.
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I'm starting to come to the conclusion it may just be one person and he simply manipulated a lot of other people on this site
Agreed. He obviously was a great manipulator. He had people claiming he was the best member on BO after only a few months on this site.
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On if they pay up on bets or not, no.
Nothing to do with bets. They just shouldn't be trusted.

If they don't pay up on a bet, what's to say they don't pay up on a card or trade?

Your posts are misguided and pointless.
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Am I the only one who think Haiku is/or never was a real person... just a made up identity from other scammers working together to divert attention from themselves.... I would speculate all these people claiming to be in contact with him are behind the whole thing..... just my thoughts
I agree more than 1 person is behind it...that makes no sense how he asked members to pump his rep up by creating numerous thank you threads...someone asks me to do that I am calling him a scammer to his face...that is BS pandering for what? guy that supposedly does not care about money or anything cares about looking good on a forum to people he does not know...yeah right
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I agree more than 1 person is behind it...that makes no sense how he asked members to pump his rep up by creating numerous thank you threads...someone asks me to do that I am calling him a scammer to his face...that is BS pandering for what? guy that supposedly does not care about money or anything cares about looking good on a forum to people he does not know...yeah right
Just really and fully realize how smart he was. He knew which members he could do what with. He had ample opportunity to take $50 from me for that Powell but he didn't. Yes, $50 is small when talking thousands but it seemed like he knew exactly what to do and what not to do.
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I agree more than 1 person is behind it...that makes no sense how he asked members to pump his rep up by creating numerous thank you threads...someone asks me to do that I am calling him a scammer to his face...that is BS pandering for what? guy that supposedly does not care about money or anything cares about looking good on a forum to people he does not know...yeah right
Same here. Feedback is earned, not given. No way I play that game.
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Nothing to do with bets. They just shouldn't be trusted.

If they don't pay up on a bet, what's to say they don't pay up on a card or trade?

Your posts are misguided and pointless.
Oh no, not misguided and pointless......................
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No matter how this turns out...this truly is an EPIC thread!

Kept me entertained, however I'm easily entertained
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This has probably been posted in one of the many threads but I haven't seen it in anything recently. It may or may not be beneficial to anything but I figured what the hell....

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Why is Sake not banned yet? Whether or not he has anything to do with Haiku he is a proven/admitted scammer/cheat/lier. He has been linked by multiple people on multiple threads/forums/Ebay to committing scam after scam. Wake the hell up and get him out of here already.
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Hey guys, I haven't had the chance to partake in much of this but it sure has been entertaining and I wish the best for all of those involved.

This has probably been posted in one of the many threads but I haven't seen it in anything recently. It may or may not be beneficial to anything but I figured what the hell....

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Why is Sake not banned yet? Whether or not he has anything to do with Haiku he is a proven/admitted scammer/cheat/lier. He has been linked by multiple people on multiple threads/forums/Ebay to committing scam after scam. Wake the hell up and get him out of here already.
well he didn't bump a thread or anything, so I think he's golden........
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I'm. Not seeing a connection care to share
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Hey guys, I haven't had the chance to partake in much of this but it sure has been entertaining and I wish the best for all of those involved.

This has probably been posted in one of the many threads but I haven't seen it in anything recently. It may or may not be beneficial to anything but I figured what the hell....

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Am I really that tired......no clue what this is.
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