FoS thread: Haiku

[Army19K]

Originally Posted by ccrab1984

fixed it for ya

Way to ruin the joke

[kl4life2]

I just named my first born Haiku a month ago. How will I explain this to my wife?

[GatorBoyInTN]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

Brandon, you are a good person and an even better friend. Let people say what they will. I know your intentions in your heart were true, as were mine with him, that's all that matters.

I have gotten PMs from people saying they are sorry that I was brought into this mess because of my outspoken friendship with him. People who know me, know I did nothing wrong. It's the ones who already didn't like me that are taking the opportunity to try and bring me down.

[sdoug76]

Originally Posted by Clarka3

i still wouldn't be surprised if this was some elaborate hoax for Haiku to find out who his "true" supporters are to shower them with a bigtime payday.

I had this same thought for a few minutes last night, about 1 in the morning after the fit just hit the shan.....

But no way, no how. And if it were somehow to be true he could take the package he was suppose to mail me, turn it sideways and....

[allday_vikes]

Originally Posted by GatorBoyInTN

You know, I have read all this today and have been thrown under the bus for befriending someone and making a mistake. I think it's funny that I have that many fans out there, that wait for a moment to pounce on me. As Haiku once said, keep on hating, it lets me know I am doing something right.

Haiku, Haiku, Haiku, even in your dreams, its still all about Haiku!

[BoxBreaker72]

It looks like Haiku had a lot of help and it looks like a few are already busted. I am sure there are more of you here... laughing. You will no doubt burn in hell for robbing good people of thousands of dollars a week before christmas.

This is a damn shame and you will all get whats coming to you. You too Haiku, I know you are reading this.

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by tnarg

It's okay. I was his "friend" too or so I thought. But until we solve this mystery I trust nobody

QFT

That is my point, I have nothing against tnarg, he seems like a great member here, done great things for people..............

But I've never personally had discussions with him and I've never dealt with him I don't believe, so why should I trust him at this point as he was an Haiku "friend"

Again, I'm not saying he was even remotely apart of it, in fact I'm rather confident in saying he 100% wasn't

But the fact remains that he was a Haiku supporter, as were other people who I don't believe had nothing to do with this, unlike my feelings towards tnarg.

So who should I trust besides the select few members I've had many conversations/dealings with at this point in time?

[Clarka3]

Grant still trusts me. because I shower him with low-end freebies of bums.

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by Clarka3

i still wouldn't be surprised if this was some elaborate hoax for Haiku to find out who his "true" supporters are to shower them with a bigtime payday.

Not sure how that's possible, is there anyone even "supporting" him anymore?

You can't pull all this and expect anyone to give you the benefit of doubt, even if you know you didn't do anything malicious on purpose

[cking]

Originally Posted by GatorBoyInTN

So what happens if Haiku owns up to his mistake and then refunds everyone? That's what I want to know.

He will be allowed back on, still will not have to send first, drop negs on you even though you pay within 60 seconds and then he will not answer pms, but will still be on the board making new threads and posting everywhere. Blowout Rules 101. Scammers get treated better then the people who speak the truth about the scammers.

[sdoug76]

Originally Posted by zonacats8

QFT

That is my point, I have nothing against tnarg, he seems like a great member here, done great things for people..............

But I've never personally had discussions with him and I've never dealt with him I don't believe, so why should I trust him at this point as he was an Haiku "friend"

Again, I'm not saying he was even remotely apart of it, in fact I'm rather confident in saying he 100% wasn't

But the fact remains that he was a Haiku supporter, as were other people who I don't believe had nothing to do with this, unlike my feelings towards tnarg.

So who should I trust besides the select few members I've had many conversations/dealings with at this point in time?

The problem is, it doesn't matter if you have had dealings with people in the past on here. How many people had dealings with Haiku with no issues? I know I did, bought from him mulitple times. So just because you had good dealings or conversations in the past, it means nothing.

I am with Tnarg. Trust No One.....Some X-Files crap right here. ...

[PDawson21]

Like it, love it, or hate it. This is my opinion. We can all have an opinion. Ill respect yours, if you respect mine.

Ill put my three cents in.

Never had a problem with Haiku. We had plenty of deals, I sold him one of his first cards on the site, and I bought some from him occasionally. But most of the time, we just talked, etc. Never won a contest from him.

As one of the other threads mentioned about his chargebacks from July where his credit card was stolen. He did gift me $290 bucks to cover it until I won my case, then he expected he me to send the $290 back to him. I think that was more than fair because I was already going to win the case anyway with the tracking #/past 45 days.

As far as the his actions for the past couple of days. His wife had a miscarriage, that can mess with your psychological state for sure. People may pass it off as minor, but from being very close to people who have had to give "still births", etc. It can be quite depressing. I think it put some things into perspective that it is not all about money, etc etc etc. You cannot be materialistic.

I think his rant the other night stepped on some toes and people got offended because there was going to be no more free handouts/free money given to them anymore. It can also step on some toes if you are materialistic as well.

Could he have handled it better? Sure he could. I think we can all handle ourselves better at some points in life. But sometimes it takes something like a miscarriage to get us back in line to the way things ought to be. Family should be first. Cards should be last.

In the end, I do realize that its not my money tied up. If you do get your refund (which you should unless you sent gift), you did not lose anything.

[BeingJustin]

Originally Posted by tnarg

It's okay. I was his "friend" too or so I thought. But until we solve this mystery I trust nobody

You also weren't pumping rainbows in his a$$ like Gator.

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by sdoug76

The problem is, it doesn't matter if you have had dealings with people in the past on here. How many people had dealings with Haiku with no issues? I know I did, bought from him mulitple times. So just because you had good dealings or conversations in the past, it means nothing.

I am with Tnarg. Trust No One.....Some X-Files crap right here. ...

That's my point, even some of he people I have dealt with I don't fully trust at the moment

There are probably 3-6 people I REALLY trust right now in here, and those people probably even know who they are, and I'd assume they are the few people who would even trust me at the moment

[Ajax1723]

I'm not sure what my reputation is on this site, but I will definetely still buy and sell here, like I said before.

Sure, trust will be stretched thin for a while, but unless you are buying mystery lots and sending gift, you shouldnt have any more to worry about than you did before.

[nuccionino]

Originally Posted by BeingJustin

You also weren't pumping rainbows in his a$$ like Gator.

Troll much? Shut up.

[uberfatty]

Originally Posted by PDawson21

Like it, love it, or hate it. This is my opinion. We can all have an opinion. Ill respect yours, if you respect mine.

Ill put my three cents in.

Never had a problem with Haiku. We had plenty of deals, I sold him one of his first cards on the site, and I bought some from him occasionally. But most of the time, we just talked, etc. Never won a contest from him.

As one of the other threads mentioned about his chargebacks from July where his credit card was stolen. He did gift me $290 bucks to cover it until I won my case, then he expected he me to send the $290 back to him. I think that was more than fair because I was already going to win the case anyway with the tracking #/past 45 days.

As far as the his actions for the past couple of days. His wife had a miscarriage, that can mess with your psychological state for sure. People may pass it off as minor, but from being very close to people who have had to give "still births", etc. It can be quite depressing. I think it put some things into perspective that it is not all about money, etc etc etc. You cannot be materialistic.

I think his rant the other night stepped on some toes and people got offended because there was going to be no more free handouts/free money given to them anymore. It can also step on some toes if you are materialistic as well.

Could he have handled it better? Sure he could. I think we can all handle ourselves better at some points in life. But sometimes it takes something like a miscarriage to get us back in line to the way things ought to be. Family should be first. Cards should be last.

In the end, I do realize that its not my money tied up. If you do get your refund (which you should unless you sent gift), you did not lose anything.

proof?

There's way more in play here that doesn't follow with a simple "life event" throwing off some transactions.

[nuccionino]

Originally Posted by zonacats8

That's my point, even some of he people I have dealt with I don't fully trust at the moment

There are probably 3-6 people I REALLY trust right now in here, and those people probably even know who they are, and I'd assume they are the few people who would even trust me at the moment

I may trust people, but I won't send gift, ever. I'll cover the fees before thinking about doing that. I will also rarely trade, the protection is a lot less. I cannot believe people risk trading high-end cards.

[PDawson21]

Originally Posted by uberfatty

proof?

There's way more in play here that doesn't follow with a simple "life event" throwing off some transactions.

I don't think a miscarriage is a simple life event. He should have refunded everyone instead of making them file claims. Absolutely. When it comes to family or cards though, family should come first, in general, not just in this specific situation.

[Ajax1723]

Originally Posted by nuccionino

I may trust people, but I won't send gift, ever. I'll cover the fees before thinking about doing that. I will also rarely trade, the protection is a lot less. I cannot believe people risk trading high-end cards.

This, only way I trade high end is if they send first. Was the only reason I didn't get scammed by PlayHard (anyone remember him?).

[BoxBreaker72]

Haiku makes sidthekid look like Justin Beiber.

[37Jetson]

Zero offense taken. I think that you have described the reality around here for the near future. Most of the time I make judgements on people based on their general behavior around here. The Haiku incident has thrown a wrench into that method.

Originally Posted by zonacats8

Please don't take offense to this, but I wouldn't make a deal with you right now as I don't know you, we haven't done deals or had discussions in the past, so I wouldn't expect you to want to make a deal with me either right now

[PlatinumPlus502]

Originally Posted by PDawson21

I don't think a miscarriage is a simple life event. He should have refunded everyone instead of making them file claims. Absolutely. When it comes to family or cards though, family should come first, in general, not just in this specific situation.

Pretty sure you are still under the misconception that anything this guy has said was even true...

[Braylon1]

Originally Posted by PDawson21

I don't think a miscarriage is a simple life event. He should have refunded everyone instead of making them file claims. Absolutely. When it comes to family or cards though, family should come first, in general, not just in this specific situation.

The issues started happening before the "miscarriage"

I was seeing things about 6-7 days prior to that. Suddenly making excuses, catching him in lies and then outright lying to me and then going silent. So I have a hard time buying into the miscarriage triggered this all.

[BoxBreaker72]

I would bet anything the miscarriage story is total BS... wake up guys.

He played everyone.