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Old 12-17-2012, 08:28 PM   #26 (permalink)
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They do. It is called common sense. It isn't their fault if people don't use it. For example, I would never deal with someone who was banned for threatening to kill members of this site because I find someone like that to be unstable and not a suitable person with which to do business.

Tell the entire story. I said that in reference of protecting my kids.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:30 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I gave 6 years of free volunteer service to free

all because of the love of the hobby. Never paid once.

Im just giving out ways to prevent members being conned into sending 3k of cards to a noone.

At one time Freaks had one of the best member protection verified traders programs on the net. Everyone worked for free.

The owner sold out and wouldnt update the server now its trash.
Let it go
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:34 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Lol.... Good stuff.

Im just ticked off that someone can get screwed on 3k of cards.

Utter BS.
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Lol.... Good stuff.

Im just ticked off that someone can get screwed on 3k of cards.

Utter BS.
thats nothing compared to the 20k in cash he stole. His nut huggers are in back track mode like Boss's
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:40 PM   #30 (permalink)
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thats nothing compared to the 20k in cash he stole. His nut huggers are in back track mode like Boss's
This is the wild wild west of sports card forums.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:45 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Howard, honest question? Would this ever happen on any site we worked on?
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They do. It is called common sense. It isn't their fault if people don't use it. For example, I would never deal with someone who was banned for threatening to kill members of this site because I find someone like that to be unstable and not a suitable person with which to do business.

Good idea, I wouldn't either. I hope they would ban loons like that. You know...and not let them come back on.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:14 PM   #33 (permalink)
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This crap goes deep man. Trust has been broken, lots of things went unlooked, lots of blind faith.

There may not even be a site after this.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:17 PM   #34 (permalink)
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This crap goes deep man. Trust has been broken, lots of things went unlooked, lots of blind faith.

There may not even be a site after this.
There will be a site. Some of us on the forum aren't just looking to make a buck off another member. Some of us actually like to fool fart around with one another to relieve a bit of stress each day, while talking about cards and sports from time to time. As long as we are around, the forum will exist.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:26 PM   #35 (permalink)
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There will be a site. Some of us on the forum aren't just looking to make a buck off another member. Some of us actually like to fool fart around with one another to relieve a bit of stress each day, while talking about cards and sports from time to time. As long as we are around, the forum will exist.
Not exactly sure what that is? But I'm in!
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Only if you tell me you love me first.
I love you, now don't become a scammer and get me caught up in the mix! Because damnit ill jump off the deep end and start swearing and dropping the n bomb all day long for you
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:38 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Wait so what was said?

Dude if all of this and all the shootings happening doesn't mean it's the end of the world...I don't know what does.
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I'm new to this site and everything. But I'd bet my entire collection that he cancels his account and tries to start a new one and start scamming all over again. Mods need to ban not just him but his IP address as well. Just my two cents on this.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:09 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I'm new to this site and everything. But I'd bet my entire collection that he cancels his account and tries to start a new one and start scamming all over again. Mods need to ban not just him but his IP address as well. Just my two cents on this.
Just for the record this does nothing but waste time. As soon as you reboot your machine your get a new ISP, same with going to a different machine.

Just the same as an email address. You can get one anywhere.

Mailing addresses can be changed (PO Box, Street/Rd/Drive, etc)

We get a lot of help from members on here when they see something that looks funny. Sometimes its nothing, and sometimes we can catch stuff early on, some times not.

If it looks to good to be true it probably is. When it doubt dont do it. Always pay with paypal and back it with a credit card. You as a buyer have a double check against any issues. Just the same when in doubt as a seller you insure the package and at this point there's no reason for a seller to not be using tracking for any domestic packages.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:12 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I'm new to this site and everything. But I'd bet my entire collection that he cancels his account and tries to start a new one and start scamming all over again. Mods need to ban not just him but his IP address as well. Just my two cents on this.
Just to add to what Fish just said, I have a VPN. I can change my IP address instantly.

I can be in California in a matter of seconds... or Chicago, Switzerland, Germany, etc.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:17 PM   #41 (permalink)
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If it looks to good to be true it probably is.
and that is the rub
That right there, if half of those people had lived by that ONE simple sentence...well
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:22 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Hey I'm not pointing the finger..if you check out the show thread I did for the Grandville Show I did this past weekend. I'm likely eating a big ben for my lack of judgement from this weekend. As its been called we've all paid some "stupid tax" one time or another..just depends on how many zero's where in the lesson.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:25 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I know,but really..grab backs for hundreds ?
That's....the worse stupid tax of all time
Glad you are taking a few secs to banter haha...I feel your pain in weeding through the debacle
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:59 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I want to point out some members of this forum that I would trust with my unborn children.


Theheel
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and many many others. Trust that is built is one thing. Trust that is bought is something else.

Trust me on this.
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I think blowout should offer (for a fee) to serve as an intermediary for trades. I think an intermediary is a great idea, but who can you trust on the board to serve as an intermediary these days?
escrow services by Blowout?
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Most of all, be smart. Never buy mystery lots PERIOD no matter how reputable. And NEVER PAY GIFT, likewise.
Fixed that for you.
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:32 AM   #47 (permalink)
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It boggles my mind how anyone could genuinely, truly trust other people on the Internet that he/she does not know in person. Phone calls, texts and emails don't mean squat. Reputation and perception are fleeting, fragile things in this hobby.

I made one mistake sending $400 PP Gift when I was starting out in cards years ago, and never again. I'd like to believe other people learn lessons even just from reading up on situations like this, but unfortunately that won't be the case as scamming will always continue....
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I want to point out some members of this forum that I would trust with my unborn children.


Theheel
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jlzinck
nodie27
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tamar3504

and many many others. Trust that is built is one thing. Trust that is bought is something else.

Trust me on this.
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:14 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Just to add to what Fish just said, I have a VPN. I can change my IP address instantly.

I can be in California in a matter of seconds... or Chicago, Switzerland, Germany, etc.
I had just thought about that last night. I guess it's best just to watch out for someone that does the same thing he did and just ban him again.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:20 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Too much work for a free forum run by basically a couple volunteers. This place is a privilege we aren't owed anything by BO. Not saying it wouldn't be nice but they are a business with no time for that.

Plus scammers find a way to scam, dishonesty has existed since the beginning of time.
While you are correct that scammers will find a way.
all of the other boards I belong to are community based.
they are also free.
And one has to view a ridiculous number of advertisements
in order help these boards generate the revenue to survive.

The blowout forum is a "subsidiary" of the blowoutcards card seller.
Its primary intention is NOT the community
(dont mention THIS site or THAT site or your post will get deleted)
It is to drive customers to their website.
Thats all well and good.
I like not having to look at a million ads.
I respect that its part of a business and so I dont bring up or link people to other sites.

its a business and they dont want to promote the competetion , makes perfect sense.
however, the onus of treating it like a business is not just on the user.

This site probably has the highest number of users on at any one time.
But just 2 mods.
Other sites with 1/10th the traffic have a mod or 2 for every subforum.

In the end all of these boards are a free and a "privilege" and I appreciate that.

I dont like seeing a bazillion scam threads.
and I do wonder how community based boards with minimal operating budgets
have far more mods then the one that is part of a business.

They even have this incredible little thing called a trade manager,
so when people get scammed there is a record of it beyond "did you save the pm's?"
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