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Old 02-07-2013, 01:48 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I've waited a year for a retaliatory neg to be removed...
Still not removed.

I don't get it.
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Old 02-07-2013, 01:50 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I took a look at my I trader a few moments ago.

My positives the past 6 months- 109
My positives the past month -4

My point you may ask?

Why on earth would I want to do any business on this site anymore? I rarely sell on here and I am certainly not going to buy. The I trader system is absolutely pointless.
my itrader says a lot of the same. I hardly ever deal here anymore. there are various reasons, but so many deadbeats is part of it. I'll post my breaks and things, but I don't move much here now.

I had done a deal with magglio a while back & he does have positive itrader from me, but it took a while if ever for him to get me the DC#. everything else was smooth and it arrived fine so wouldn't have thought bad. What he did w/the OP was downright aweful.

I did see him buying more during the fiaso w/the OP so getting that neg removed is not cool. I think it is up to chris and pat not fish and pskell to determine itrader changes and they own the site, so it's hard to argue there as there is at least a neutral warning.
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He used the family emergency crap I am sure. Card biz is dangerous bizzyness.

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I took a look at my I trader a few moments ago.

My positives the past 6 months- 109
My positives the past month -4

My point you may ask?

Why on earth would I want to do any business on this site anymore? I rarely sell on here and I am certainly not going to buy. The I trader system is absolutely pointless.
I'm right there with ya. This is mine:

Past Month - 2

6 Months - 93

When I do deals on this site, there probably would be about a group of ~50 people I would want to deal with.

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Im sure I made an enemy for life in Magglio, but Id like to think my pestering finally got to him, so for that Chas, i say you're welcome...As far as this site goes, I havent been taken yet and Id like to think I wont be because I am very careful and always do my research first(Thank you Google)...There are good members here, you just have to be picky...I trade on many different sites and have never even been accused of anything. I'd like to think Its because I have decent moral fiber and wouldnt want to be taken myself...Hell, Ive been doing the card thing since I was 7 years old!!! Just send on time, send the cards well protected, and all should be fine...
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:48 PM   #31 (permalink)
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and nothing will be done about this either.
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The one other thing I don't understand is people who refuse to leave feedback for people. I send out reminders about a week after the item is sent, and I leave feedback when I receive payment....do these people know I can see that they're logged on?...
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I honestly wish we could vote in some new mods. I've ne'er had much luck with current batch
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Guys, I would be lying if I said this place was a party place. Loser bidders and I dont know if others have noticed but seems like membership is on the rise. I look at the BST and a bunch of kids selling commons calling it a high end lot. But you know what, I am also thankful for this website. I am not gonna thrash this place because its hard times right now or it seems bleek. The Mods are swamped dealing with all kinds of BS I am sure. The people I have met and the friends I have here are worth the current struggles. But I dont like how its chased away some of the Blowout core guys. Membership needs to be limited in my opinion. Why? Some 15 year old kid is gonna open a few packs and wanna list them FS for free where they can avoid the Ebay age issue. When I joined I was on a hold for like what seemed a month or more. The issue that concerns me most is the lack of the mods and ownership looking for people to help out and make the site better for everyone. 2 Mods for this entire joint, well I am on several golf forums where I have modded and they have between 25-30 Mods and section mods. Hang in there guys maybe we can get back to the old saying "The way it was"!

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Old 02-07-2013, 06:34 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I'm actually surprised this thread isn't deleted yet.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:56 PM   #36 (permalink)
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When your system is set up so seller does not have to ship for weeks upon weeks and then the buyer questions the seller asking where his stuff is and the seller can neg the buyer, things will never change. They need to work that glitch out. And the "I will take it" and then dont pay crap. Once they put exact specific rules into effect it will get better. Until then it will not. The actual rules should be the determining factor in what type of feedback gets left. Not personal opinions. This is why Ebay is the monster that it is. By not allowing sellers to leave negative feedback they force sellers to follow the rules or suffer the consequences. I know nobody like that rule but it sure is effective.
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Guys I'll fully take any heat on this if you so feel the need to blame someone.

I changed the feedback to neutral. While there were issues with this deal I wont deny that. So for sure a positive wasnt justifable. I felt that because ChasK510 was paid for the card that the negative wasnt worthy.
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Guys I'll fully take any heat on this if you so feel the need to blame someone.

I changed the feedback to neutral. While there were issues with this deal I wont deny that. So for sure a positive wasnt justifable. I felt that because ChasK510 was paid for the card that the negative wasnt worthy.
Just a suggestion, but anyway we can add a Non-paying bidder strike sort of thing? If actually carried through (unlike eBay) it might give a more statistical way to show who has or has not paid on this site.

Another option could be (I think it was mentioned earlier) to have a full breakdown of what consitutes a positive, neutral or negative feedback. This way, maybe some people at least can look at it and use it. It's not an complete fix, but it could help at least.
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Guys I'll fully take any heat on this if you so feel the need to blame someone.

I changed the feedback to neutral. While there were issues with this deal I wont deny that. So for sure a positive wasnt justifable. I felt that because ChasK510 was paid for the card that the negative wasnt worthy.
Not sure it's right for Mods or Admins to pick and choose or let their opinions decide what feedback is appropriate or not in matters like this. That's what the feedback system is for. The transaction didn't belong to anyone else but the two involved, and therefore how can anyone else be apart of "feedback"?

When people mods or admins step in and start to "justify" or manipulate the feedback left - you are now putting a flaw in the feedback system. This has been a reason why some people have not left feedback, because they feel the system has become flawed.

We are told to leave appropriate Itader, but how can you or why would you when you know that it's subject to possible change if someone who wasn't part of the transaction can go in and change it.

I disagree with this action and think it should be frowned upon going forward.
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:37 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Appropriate feedback was left because he HAD THE CARD LISTED BEFORE HE EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT PAYING ME. He was trying to see if he could flip it first. I don't understand how a negative wasn't warranted. This is a joke an absolute joke.
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Guys I'll fully take any heat on this if you so feel the need to blame someone.

I changed the feedback to neutral. While there were issues with this deal I wont deny that. So for sure a positive wasnt justifable. I felt that because ChasK510 was paid for the card that the negative wasnt worthy.
seriously? pretty sure that's not how the system works when it comes to feedback.
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I took a look at my I trader a few moments ago.

My positives the past 6 months- 109
My positives the past month -4

My point you may ask?

Why on earth would I want to do any business on this site anymore? I rarely sell on here and I am certainly not going to buy. The I trader system is absolutely pointless.
I just hit my 1 year on the forum. 143 in the past 12 months, 2 in the last month. One group break and a deal between Major League and myself. This site has lost so much because of their backwards priorities.
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I am just about done with this forum.

Mods are changing legit non retalitory feedback now? Ridiculous.
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Guys I'll fully take any heat on this if you so feel the need to blame someone.

I changed the feedback to neutral. While there were issues with this deal I wont deny that. So for sure a positive wasnt justifable. I felt that because ChasK510 was paid for the card that the negative wasnt worthy.
you should be relieved of your duties then
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I am just about done with this forum.

Mods are changing legit non retaliatory feedback now? Ridiculous.
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seriously? pretty sure that's not how the system works when it comes to feedback.
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Im sure I made an enemy for life in Magglio, but Id like to think my pestering finally got to him, so for that Chas, i say you're welcome...As far as this site goes, I havent been taken yet and Id like to think I wont be because I am very careful and always do my research first(Thank you Google)...There are good members here, you just have to be picky...I trade on many different sites and have never even been accused of anything. I'd like to think Its because I have decent moral fiber and wouldnt want to be taken myself...Hell, Ive been doing the card thing since I was 7 years old!!! Just send on time, send the cards well protected, and all should be fine...
I appreciate that bjs.
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Guys I'll fully take any heat on this if you so feel the need to blame someone.

I changed the feedback to neutral. While there were issues with this deal I wont deny that. So for sure a positive wasnt justifable. I felt that because ChasK510 was paid for the card that the negative wasnt worthy.
Welp you just made me realize how terrible this forum really is. You shouldn't be a moderator.
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