Lost all faith in this site.

[MetDude]

Originally Posted by smackvay

no i did not say that AT ALL im saying what clarka and houdini said is right on point. What magglio did was a crappy move for sure and should be dealt with with a b-hammer at the minumum. just to be clear

While what magglio did is wrong,
if he deserves a ban then I suggest you look at the first itrader of the person who sold him that card.

here let me google that for you

Paid on 8/4/10, it is 9/2/10 no card, no tracking #, paypal dispute filed
Buyer Razorsharp79(172) 09-02-2010

Point being, if magglio even remotely deserves a ban now,
then ChasK510 unquestioningly deserved a ban 2.5 years ago.

if that had happened
this situation could not have occurred.
No one would have said themselves, "wow i really need that card but this douche has -1 Itrader for not sending and paypal claim filed, and hasnt even been here in 2.5 years, hmmm maybe i should ask this douche to send first cuz it seems like he cant even manage to put 1 deal in the mail and doesnt give a sht about first impressions"

AS for the Bench or SCF ?
the bench will not allow you sell until you have 20 pts
and SCF will expect you to send first on sales until you have 20 pts.

And both would likely ban you for a thread like this.

[pjnjjsdad]

Originally Posted by smackvay

the guy that got banned spamming another site by highlighting the website address in his post like this.

I like to go to blowout forum to buy and sale cards. By placing a dot on your shirt it gets stained. Have i mentioned the game so com for psa 3 its a great game.

so the dude deserved to get banned and i think they erased the post

You're kidding right?

How did he deserve to be banned for that?

People can mention SCF and other sites ALL DAY LONG, but mentioning SSC in a very witty way like what Bill did gets him banned?

His post was actually input on the subject at hand.

That's INSANE.

OP, sorry to hijack your thread man. Just irked that the member got banned.

[ajscards101]

It is sell cards, not sale

Not sure if you did that intentionally or not

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by cking

This forum is attached to a business. The reason this forum was made was to drive people to thier website. I am not saying its the case here as I dont know. Its just a thought. But if someone is a huge wax buyer from Blowout then you can bet the farm that a neg will get removed for them probably no matter what they do. Again, I am not saying thats whats going on here. Its just a thought. And leave the mods alone they are busy suspending people for bumping threads 2 minutes early. Let the trolling begin.

Preach it!

[death2redemptions]

Originally Posted by MetDude

While what magglio did is wrong,
if he deserves a ban then I suggest you look at the first itrader of the person who sold him that card.

here let me google that for you

Paid on 8/4/10, it is 9/2/10 no card, no tracking #, paypal dispute filed
Buyer Razorsharp79(172) 09-02-2010

Point being, if magglio even remotely deserves a ban now,
then ChasK510 unquestioningly deserved a ban 2.5 years ago.

if that had happened
this situation could not have occurred.
No one would have said themselves, "wow i really need that card but this douche has -1 Itrader for not sending and paypal claim filed, and hasnt even been here in 2.5 years, hmmm maybe i should ask this douche to send first cuz it seems like he cant even manage to put 1 deal in the mail and doesnt give a sht about first impressions"

AS for the Bench or SCF ?
the bench will not allow you sell until you have 20 pts
and SCF will expect you to send first on sales until you have 20 pts.

And both would likely ban you for a thread like this.

I agree, I don't think he deserves to be banned, all I'm saying is that he DOES deserve that negative. The moderators had no right to change it based on how they felt which may have been influenced due to him being someone who hosts a lot of breaks for them. Their decision may have been biased and it wasn't their decision to change it to begin with.

[sunsfan8]

This whole thread is pretty pathetic...

[smackvay]

Originally Posted by sunsfan8

This whole thread is pretty pathetic...

you sir have won the post of the day!!!! congratulations

[sunsfan8]

Originally Posted by smackvay

you sir have won the post of the day!!!! congratulations

I'll paraphrase FreeMan for this:

Winning post of the day is like being the smartest kid on the shortbus.

[smackvay]

Originally Posted by sunsfan8

I'll paraphrase FreeMan for this:

Winning post of the day is like being the smartest kid on the shortbus.

lol well congratulations then!

[sunsfan8]

Originally Posted by smackvay

lol well congratulations then!

[Ray27Ray52]

I have changed my signature to reflect my feelings towards this matter.

[sunsfan8]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

I have changed my signature to reflect my feelings towards this matter.

iTrader is a joke if you can't even leave the deserved feedback you want to leave.

[smackvay]

Originally Posted by sunsfan8

iTrader is a joke if you can't even leave the deserved feedback you want to leave.

Dang you!!! 2 days in a row! Super Congratulations is in order for you

[sunsfan8]

Originally Posted by smackvay

Dang you!!! 2 days in a row! Super Congratulations is in order for you

I get a shortbus seat in the back!

[ChasK510]

So thats the way the mods are gonna leave it? Just let him get away like that? Unbelievable.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by ChasK510

So thats the way the mods are gonna leave it? Just let him get away like that? Unbelievable.

I agree it is a shame. I can see this thread being deleted in the future as well.

It has become apparent that the Mods opinion of what feedback should be is what goes. What the buyer/seller think of one another ultimately does not matter. I have defended the Mods on here in the past but this one really really stinks.

[cking]

I guess moving forward the bigger question is this. What if something like this happens again, and trust me it will, and someone takes forever to pay,but they do pay eventually and get a negative left on them for taking a long time to pay? Since they did pay eventually is thier neg gonna be removed? Magglios was so I dont see how you can justify not removing someone elses.

[death2redemptions]

Originally Posted by ChasK510

So thats the way the mods are gonna leave it? Just let him get away like that? Unbelievable.

I guess so. This is a real shame and something should be done about it, however nothing will. This whole situation stinks to high hell.

This thread will probably be closed so the mods can cover their tracks

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by cking

I guess moving forward the bigger question is this. What if something like this happens again, and trust me it will, and someone takes forever to pay,but they do pay eventually and get a negative left on them for taking a long time to pay? Since they did pay eventually is thier neg gonna be removed? Magglios was so I dont see how you can justify not removing someone elses.

Exactly. For lack of a better term, the precedent has been set now. Where do we go from here?

I will no longer participate in the I trader system. If I sell something, I ask that the person not leave me feedback. If I buy something, I will not leave feedback. Sometimes you just have to take a stand.

[saintsfan67]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

Exactly. For lack of a better term, the precedent has been set now. Where do we go from here?

I will no longer participate in the I trader system. If I sell something, I ask that the person not leave me feedback. If I buy something, I will not leave feedback. Sometimes you just have to take a stand.

I'm sure they will be deeply hurt by this..Why make good and decent people suffer because you are not going with the Flow???

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by saintsfan67

I'm sure they will be deeply hurt by this..Why make good and decent people suffer because you are not going with the Flow???

If members aren't allowed to leave the I trader that they feel appropriate then the system is worthless. Therefore I will treat it as such.

I can understand your aggravation with my viewpoint. I truly do. I am holding others accountable for things they had no part of. I just feel that what happened was wrong and I choose to do something about it. I really don't see any other alternative.

[saintsfan67]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

If members aren't allowed to leave the I trader that they feel appropriate then the system is worthless. Therefore I will treat it as such.

I can understand your aggravation with my viewpoint. I truly do. I am holding others accountable for things they had no part of. I just feel that what happened was wrong and I choose to do something about it. I really don't see any other alternative.

Not aggrivated at all...People are still dealing with that Douche...If not Itrader,they can read this..One man can not change the world..It takes Unity and that is a thing of the Past...I would Imagine the Staff is still looking into this...Go straight to the top for answers If you want a Valid answer

[SPauthentic84]

Again, I think a lot of problems would be solved if BO released clear cut terms of what defines a positive, neuatral, and negative transaction.

It would be helpful for everyone and probably save mods a lot of headaches.

[jlzinck]

Originally Posted by MI Rob

Blowout sweeps everything under the rug. There are blatant liars, scammers, members who leave ridiculous retaliatory negatives and they aren't removed, etc. I don't know what other criteria you would need to call this place shady. Priorities are pretty backwards around here.

So what are your thoughts on people who don't send out their Secret Santa gifts until being reported?

Just wondering....


As for people leaving negatives when people do not pay for group breaks I noticed this line was put in during the last couple of months.

If you are comfortable with the host, format and pricing, you may join the break and reserve your slot(s) by posting in this thread. Please note that once you reserve your slot(s), you commit to pay for your reserved slot(s).

I believe that is reason enough right there to leave a negative for someone who backs out.

[shinnox]

blowout has always been shady.

people can sit back behind their pc's and bash pack and box searchers. but will post here on a forum, whos website sells HOTBOXES?? blowout searches packs and boxes themselves.

not only that, i dont know about you all, but i rarely buy from blowout anymore. havent in a long time. every box ive ever gotten was overpriced crap. bought 3 boxes of the same product, and didnt hit a thing. 1 box from dacardworld, and got a 1/1. go figure.

ive slowly stopped dealing on here as well. there are many other places to deal online. ive done a ton of great deals on facebook card groups. theyre much better then here. yes, you will have your scams from time to time, but that will happen anywhere you go. and at least on facebook, as soon as someones ripped off, all the groups know about it in a matter of mins. bc they all watch out for eachother.

ive always thought the mods here carry some kind of ship on their shoulder and think they're god bc they can remove posts and threaten to ban you. was the changing of the feedback a mistake? yes a big one at that. its true people makes mistakes, but as you can see, its not the only time its happened here. the guy shoulda been banned point blank.

i think theyre trying to rig the feedback system so that people have more + then - so people will wanna post and trade more. = get scammed more.

no one even takes the feedback system seriously. there needs to be a new revamped system put into place, which i dont see happening anytime soon, so it will just continue to go down the craphole.