Does this warrant a NEGATIVE?

[crackberry]

Here's the timeline (sorry if this seems in the future since the different time zones)

1/19
Bought and paid for card from member on here

2/22
Waited a bit over a month. No card. So I sent PM and got this reply

Oh my gosh I totally forgot because it has been so long. I'll refund you so you don't have to wait another 3 weeks.

2/25
No reply so I file claim on PP so the deadline doesn't lapse. Once bitten...

2/26
Got reply from member

i was going to refund you but then you sent a claim

I explained the deadline thing

2/26
Then this strange message... can't find it??? LOL

for some reason i cant find it so i will just let the claim run out if thats okay

be interested to know what people would do

[tristan20]

WOW

Negative, hes hoping he wins. Call paypal ASAP and send them the emails.

If he was going to refund you, he can via the claim. So why wouldn't he now?

[1eyed_jack]

Easy negative. No question about it.

You should probably post the member name also so others know not to deal with him

[nateadams2]

definitely post the name

[BoxBreaker72]

Negative and please provide the name.

[440shane]

Yes I agree with the rest. Neg and post name please.

[karlsta26]

Hey Minh, definitely worth a neg & name the user.

[crackberry]

thanks for the advice everyone. it's a shame cos the member has all positive feedback so far

i'll give it a couple of days before i name and shame

[Dwade Collector]

Wow, that's kind of messed up. He has the option to refund and close the paypal dispute. If he is choosing not to issue the refund after agreeing to issue a refund, then that is a major red flag in my opinion.

He should have gave you the refund as soon as he left the first message, no reason for him prolonging the transaction! Does he have high feedback and is this a higher end or lower end deal?

Sorry about the questions, I just hate seeing this kind of stuff go on man

[bigcwd2000]

Yeah that is a long time with no communication. Hope you can get this resolved quicky. I normally don't like to give negatives but in this case I probably would.

[WillC]

There's no probably about it, in my opinion. He definitely deserves a negative.

If he tried to resolve the situation (by giving you a refund ASAP), then I'd probably forgive him for forgetting to post the card. But the two things coupled together do not sit well, and I would feel obliged to warn others about him.

It's a shame to hear it's someone with lots of positive feedback. Hopefully it's just a one off blip.

[boombaby_rm31]

that sucks. negative and ban hammer

[doctorres112]

I'm with everyone else. Negative and name. Life happens and if it was a family emergency I suppose a memory lapse could happen but to just have forgotten....sounds fishy. Negative is very much in order.

-Chris

[asujbl]

Negative immediately - and name for everyone.

Nothing he says matters after he said "I can't find it" after agreeing to sending you a refund. That means he just got caught up in his own lies and forgot whether he was supposed to refund you or send you your card late.

No one should "let the paypal claim happen" if they are aware they didn't send your card - and this person admitted they didn't send it.

[crackberry]

latest development is pretty funny.

so immediately after the last message he wrote

2/26

if i let the claim run out does that do anything to my account>

this morning i sent a friendly reminder

"please refund my money
thanks"

this was the reply I got

2/27

You said it was up to me and I'm just going to let the claim go

(that was in reference to my short and sarcastic message of "up to you man" when he said he "can't find it". in hindsight i shouldn't have been so blunt - but like some of you have pointed out there is really no excuse)

so i showed him this thread and this was his response

2/27

I am not trying to scam you I never have and I never will. It's just I don't have enough money to refund u because u put out the hold. I had enough after but you decided to hold my money and then I didn't have enough. So I really can't. Please just let it run. If I do win which I HOPE I don't. Then I will refund you the money ASAP. Please just bear with me as I don't really have money.

classic stuff

(for the record I told him I wont name and shame him, since I will give him the benefit of the doubt till the end, but it's getting pretty hard to keep my promise since I don't want others to be caught by his BS)

[Dwade Collector]

I think I understand what he means. He used up the paypal that you sent and now he doesn't have enough to refund you without his balance becoming negative. He currently doesn't have the money to make up for the negative balance? I think that paypal automatically puts your account on "limited access" once you get a negative balance too.

Is this a higher end transaction? if you don't mind me asking, I hope that it's not


Greg

[pingbling23]

im having a hard time following, why would he win the claim?

[Dwade Collector]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

im having a hard time following, why would he win the claim?

No way in hell is he winning the claim...... I think that it may just be a misunderstanding, the seller is having a hard time explaining himself clearly

[mmbtvs]

I would suggest throwing a cup of pee on him.

[crackberry]

Originally Posted by Dwade Collector

I think I understand what he means. He used up the paypal that you sent and now he doesn't have enough to refund you without his balance becoming negative. He currently doesn't have the money to make up for the negative balance? I think that paypal automatically puts your account on "limited access" once you get a negative balance too.

Is this a higher end transaction? if you don't mind me asking, I hope that it's not


Greg

hey Greg
It's only $70. that's the main reason I am going to see how it ends
he had a pretty easy time spend the $70 I sent him - just puzzles me how his PP is not connected to a CC or his bank account

[blastman]

only 70? maybe thats not alot to you, but it is to a lot of people.

do everyone a favor and give the name so other people don't get ripped off the some way; ones that don't have 70 to lose.

[Dwade Collector]

Originally Posted by crackberry

hey Greg
It's only $70. that's the main reason I am going to see how it ends

Okay, it's good to know that it is not a really high end deal. The seller is probably having some financial difficulties at the moment and he didn't want to issue a refund without having the $70 available. By opening the claim, it automatically puts his account in negative (assuming that he doesn't have enough) and I think that a negative balance automatically puts your paypal account in "limited access" mode (meaning that he cannot buy or sell until the negative balance is resolved)

I hope you guys can sort this mess out, I am still a bit confused about him "forgetting" to send the card. When a guy pays me promptly, it's only fair that I send his cards right away. Him forgetting to send tells me that he obviously didn't have the buyer's best interest in mind. How did the guy lose the card? Please don't ask me!

Let us know how everything goes my friend, hopefully he can get back on his feet and you can get back your $70.


Best wishes,
Greg

[lambeauleap87]

So, he spent your money before so much as an intention of sending you the cards? Lots of lies and irresponsibility. Let the Paypal case run it's course, let them put his account in the red (which should hurt quite a bit), then neg him. Oh, and post his name here because, quite frankly, he deserves it.

[crackberry]

Originally Posted by blastman

only 70? maybe thats not alot to you, but it is to a lot of people.

do everyone a favor and give the name so other people don't get ripped off the some way; ones that don't have 70 to lose.

haha yeh true, you are 100% right and $70 is a lot to me too.

i suppose my response was to put into perspective that it is not a "higher end" transaction (i know i know high end could mean different things to different people. but i am sure the majority of people in this hobby wouldn't regard $70 as high end - especially a bill russell, lebron and MJ collector to whom I was responding to)

[Dwade Collector]

$70 is a lot for most of us here! I am just glad that it wasn't a deal where crackberry would have $400 or $500 tied up in a paypal dispute. That's good money that could go towards more cards my man!