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Old 04-13-2013, 11:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So this morning my kid brother (11 years old) had the best pull of his life. B/C he is not old enough to have a PP/Ebay account, he asked me to sell it for him. i very quickly got offered $250 on ebay (which is what I was looking for). I was going to sell it, but then before I accept this clown PMs me trying to buy it. I say it's sold (it is as good as sold, I haven't pressed accept but I got what i wanted) but he said he'd give me $350, do I turn down his offer, and tell him the guy chickened out (a white lie, but it seemed less sketchy than "I sold it but then not really"). So I turn down my $250, and end the listing on ebay. I then tell him it's his but he stops responding to my PMs. i warn him that I will neg him if he does not respond or at least tell me he is out. After more than an hour, he finally responds, but not a yes or no, but instead by saying:

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okay first of all i never agreed to buy it off you or made you an offer!!! I told you that i would of gave you more after you said it was sold! you never said it was on ebay nor did i tell you to pull it off ebay! so dont pull that im going to neg you business that shits not going to fly! i already bought a box of 2013 Tribute so im not interested in your card! you said it was sold and all of the sudden its not hummmm??? But thanks for the offer im sure youll get what your asking for it! have a good nite Thommy.
If "I would of have you $350!" does not mean I would have paid $350 for your card if it were FS, and that is not an offer, than I must be insane. so I neg him, I admit I probably could have handled the situation better, but he chickened out and deserved a neg, as he could have cost me $250. Then he negs me, and PMs the mods saying I was blackmailing him. I told him that if he responded he would not be negged, but he still didn't respond for an hour, and he made no indication that he was away when he finally did respond.

Here are the PMs from the deal (if he really believed he hadn't made an offer, he would have said it right after I told him we had a deal, instead of trying to convince me not to sell it):

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Old 04-13-2013, 11:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You shouldn't have declined the Ebay offer until this "clown" sent the payment
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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He said he would have gave you 350. No deal was ever made once you said it was already sold.
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Well, looking at the thread below, your iTrader, and the screenshot you posted, it's pretty obvious who's in the right.
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The guy wasn't gonna do $350. People have said that to me as well. They just talk. Since you didn't accept the eBay offer, you shouldn't of mentioned it was sold (it wasn't). Throw a price and see what happens. I don't see why a negative was left, but the other guy is a work and I wouldn't do a deal with him based on his childish actions. It is funny when people call other people "kid" when they themselves act like one.
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"would have" is not 100% agreeing. Although it was a dishonest of him to say, there was no agreement to terms.
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Like I said I could have handled it much better, but remember After I said we had a deal, he did not call it off immediately like an innocent person would have done, but instead he tried to talk me out of selling.
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Looks like we have tonight's drama. Who needs Netflix or cable?
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Like I said I could have handled it much better, but remember After I said we had a deal, he did not call it off immediately like an innocent person would have done, but instead he tried to talk me out of selling.
He just said he would have offered. He never agreed to a deal.
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Well, looking at the thread below, your iTrader, and the screenshot you posted, it's pretty obvious who's in the right.
What does my itrader have to do with it?
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Looks like we have tonight's drama. Who needs Netflix or cable?
Just turned off Netflix.
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What does my itrader have to do with it?
The description. "This Kid is a joke!" That's not substantial evidence...
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Yet another childish argument over a deal that didnt even happen This seems to happen more than good clean deals on this site. Both parties acted like they were 12 and are at equal fault IMO.
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The description. "This Kid is a joke!" That's not substantial evidence...
Oh so you mean I'm in the right, thanks! Sorry I misread your first post.
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Oh so you mean I'm in the right, thanks! Sorry I misread your first post.
Whoops. I really should've made my post more clear.
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yeah, why decline the offer so quick? you have 48 hours to respond and this kinda thing is exactly what it's for?

still a big dbag move from blanco. id neg him. but next time realize that it's not a deal until they acknowledge it too
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I swear to (insert your favorite deity here), this thread and its twin reminds of something like this:

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Looks like we have tonight's drama. Who needs Netflix or cable?
Exactly??? So how about them Kings??? I have tickets for tuesday vs the Sharks should be interesteing!!! So I just got a message from Thommy we are trying to deal with this problem! I never agreed to buy it and I would of paid $350 for it I'm a big Posey n Clark collector! But he said it sold for $250 so that's why I bought a box of Tribute!!! I wouldn't of retaliated if he didn't threaten to neg me for a card I never agreed to buy in the first place!!!
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The fact of the matter is no one should be negged in this "deal." Saying he would have given you $350 doesn't mean he will give you $350. You claimed that the card was sold which was a complete lie. Lying is what started this entire thing. I think we all know who's fault this is at right now.
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The guy wasn't gonna do $350. People have said that to me as well. They just talk. Since you didn't accept the eBay offer, you shouldn't of mentioned it was sold (it wasn't). Throw a price and see what happens. I don't see why a negative was left, but the other guy is a work and I wouldn't do a deal with him based on his childish actions. It is funny when people call other people "kid" when they themselves act like one.
Who paged you??? Lol I'm acting like a kid shoot you would of did the same thing!!!
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Exactly??? So how about them Kings??? I have tickets for tuesday vs the Sharks should be interesteing!!! So I just got a message from Thommy we are trying to deal with this problem! I never agreed to buy it and I would of paid $350 for it I'm a big Posey n Clark collector! But he said it sold for $250 so that's why I bought a box of Tribute!!! I wouldn't of retaliated if he didn't threaten to neg me for a card I never agreed to buy in the first place!!!
That should be a fantastic game. You are one lucky fellow to get to go to it
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That should be a fantastic game. You are one lucky fellow to get to go to it
Yeah it's going to be a great game my daughters a sharks fan daddy's a kings fan! LoL I hope she takes the loss alright lol
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