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Old 07-16-2013, 04:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default marlinscards - jmhoch on ebay - scammer? i'd say the proof is in the pudding...

His "mailday thread": My best mail to date! Weeks of mail! Come check it out

my response to said thread, upon noticing a card i had recently sold, shipped and was told (even though tracking showed delivered) that it was not received, so i promptly refunded buyer, jmhoch on ebay:

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i think you're a liar and a scammer.

you scammed out of the Derek Dietrich ORANGE # 6/25 BGS 9.5 clab # 6683458

and here are the ebay messages:

Dear vwbus1978,Hey,Well this really sucks. Just got back from vacation and I haven't received this carrd. I know tracking says it was delievered so either it was stolen or lost. If there's anything you can do please let me know, f not well then I'm out $30.Thanks- jmhoch Click "respond" to reply through Messages, or go to your email to reply
DEREK DIETRICH 2010 BOWMAN CHROME DRAFT PICKS ORANGE REFRACTOR 6/25 BGS 9.5
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and my reply:

Dear jmhoch,That really stinks. Have you gone down to the local post office branch and asked if they had any of your mail? This happened to me before in an almost identical situation. As it turned out, my postman had held all mail besides flyers and advertisements for me. Let me know if that works. You could ask your postman if he left it as well.Keep in touch, I will work with all my buyers to get issues resolved.Mike- vwbus1978

and the very next day:

Dear vwbus1978,Didn't come today either.I'm gonna need a refund, I hate to do so but I never got the card so it's only fair- jmhoch

Dear jmhoch,You have been refunded through PayPal.Please confirm.Thanks,Mike- vwbus1978

i issued refund through paypal immediately, here is your response:

Dear vwbus1978,Thanks a lot- jmhoch

Dear jmhoch,Sure thing. Let me know if it shows up.Thanks,Mike- vwbus1978

a link to the auction:

Derek Dietrich 2010 Bowman Chrome Draft Picks Orange Refractor 6 25 BGS 9 5 | eBay
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Old 07-16-2013, 05:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ughhhhh....terrible
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Old 07-16-2013, 05:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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LOLOLOL...I could feel the kid panicking through the computer screen.
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Old 07-16-2013, 05:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Holeeeeeeeee crap
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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What a clown. He'll probably say it was his brother who shares his account who bought it.
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm confused, if DC showed delivered why did you have to refund? Wouldn't you have won the case since it did indeed show delivered?? Either way, glad he got caught.
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LOLOLOL...I could feel the kid panicking through the computer screen.
I was thinking the same thing.
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm confused, if DC showed delivered why did you have to refund? Wouldn't you have won the case since it did indeed show delivered?? Either way, glad he got caught.
The way I read it, OP just did it to me nice giving the buyer the benifit of the doubt. He would've won the case through ebay, but the buyer still could've left feedback.
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Bout time for marlinscards...I figured
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:26 PM   #10 (permalink)
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The mods have spoken........ banned
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Good job, mods.
What a scumbag...
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Buyer/seller protection is for honest people just like locks on doors. There are ways around both. Glad this tool got caught. Now if there was some way the seller could reopen the case and get his money back.
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Buyer/seller protection is for honest people just like locks on doors. There are ways around both. Glad this tool got caught. Now if there was some way the seller could reopen the case and get his money back.
he probably could if he provided evidence (which the buyer stupidly did for him).

probably should have known something was up with the way the buyer quickly changed from "if there's nothing you can do, it looks like i'm out 30 bucks" to the next reply demanding a refund.


either way, save the images that the guy posted, the photobucket account linked, and your correspondence. If you decide to open the case to get the refund reversed, that is.


for the record, that user has been on my ignore list for quite a while.
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:33 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Side note, that Paul goldschmidt super sold for $4500

Shoulda did that driveway
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:50 AM   #15 (permalink)
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If I remember correctly, he had some previous troubles on here and was banned but then came back because one of his negatives didn't really count. I think he had an "I'm Sorry" titled thread after he realized he was going to be banned.
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:01 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Yah, I just blow it off.
I had 3 packages showing delivered and none were here.
I just didn't leave feedback. Not the shippers fault.


Did the sack sucker refund you as he offered or did it get real to fast and he end up banned before he could ?
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Wow ... good for you Mike in figuring it out. Always had a funny feeling about that dude.
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Hmm. Wonder if I'll ever get that 80 lot I bought off of him last week...
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Side note, that Paul goldschmidt super sold for $4500

Shoulda did that driveway
I would have been stupid and sold it when Bambam sold it to you.
I'm horrible at timing things.
Wish I could have bought it, though, I was like 6 weeks from settling on my house. Just awful timing on my part. As when I originally spoke to Bam, I wasn't even thinking about buying a house. 3 months later and I'm in full swing saving mode.

Ehh, such is life.

Glad you turned a profit Grant.
Hopefully you took Bambam out for a nice steak dinner.

I also just realized you thread jacked me.
Nicely done.

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Yah, I just blow it off.
I had 3 packages showing delivered and none were here.
I just didn't leave feedback. Not the shippers fault.


Did the sack sucker refund you as he offered or did it get real to fast and he end up banned before he could ?
He has stated that the card was shipped back and provided a tracki˝g number.

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Wow ... good for you Mike in figuring it out. Always had a funny feeling about that dude.
I never really knew him. Guess I don't spend ebought time in B/S/T
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Hmm. Wonder if I'll ever get that 80 lot I bought off of him last week...
I Hope so, I think he will come through.
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I would have been stupid and sold it when Bambam sold it to you.
I'm horrible at timing things.
Wish I could have bought it, though, I was like 6 weeks from settling on my house. Just awful timing on my part. As when I originally spoke to Bam, I wasn't even thinking about buying a house. 3 months later and I'm in full swing saving mode.

Ehh, such is life.

Glad you turned a profit Grant.
Hopefully you took Bambam out for a nice steak dinner.

I also just realized you thread jacked me.
Nicely done.



He has stated that the card was shipped back and provided a tracki˝g number.


I never really knew him. Guess I don't spend ebought time in B/S/T

I Hope so, I think he will come through.
No I didn't make a ton of loot. I unloaded it to my bif since he is from phx and collected pg. I only did that bc I figured he'd never sell. I was wrong. He made all the money, not me. I got a $500 pp gift kickback but still forfeited a $3k flip

So BamBam and I can puke together
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Homeboy also sold me a card 2 1/2 weeks ago that hasn't arrived. Upon telling him that my card was not here, I opened a dispute letting him know my lucas sims auto had not arrived and got this.
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I have shipped everything I've sold.

What did you buy and what's your adress?

I had two things come back to me because of either a wrong adress

Or non secure shipping.

I'm very sorry and I hope to resolve this
Then I told him it was the Sims

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This was shipped back to me and I was very confused..

I'm on vacation... I can either give refund or ship card when I get home Monday.

Lmk asap
I asked for a refund, now showing as pending... We'll see when it gets here.

Like, it would not have dawned upon this guy to let the buyer know that the card had been returned to him by USPS.

For a 5.66667777777 GPA or whatever he has, he is often times very confused
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I did quite a few deals with him. They were mostly painful. He always started out unrealisticaly high and it took way too much effort to get him to SV. Because he had a lot of PC cards I needed I didn't have a choice. Then he would always take two weeks plus to ship but I did always get the cards and in ok condition. I didn't take him to be a scammer but he was definately a pain. I believe he was a teenager if I remember correctly.
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Homeboy also sold me a card 2 1/2 weeks ago that hasn't arrived. Upon telling him that my card was not here, I opened a dispute letting him know my lucas sims auto had not arrived and got this.


Then I told him it was the Sims



I asked for a refund, now showing as pending... We'll see when it gets here.

Like, it would not have dawned upon this guy to let the buyer know that the card had been returned to him by USPS.

For a 5.66667777777 GPA or whatever he has, he is often times very confused
The fact that he says he was on vacation doesn't make me feel too good. That's the same line he just gave me yesterday as to why he couldn't give me tracking. He said he gets home tomorrow to give me the tracking, but honestly, not sure if he even sent it, according to the day he shipped, it should be here by now.
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The fact that he says he was on vacation doesn't make me feel too good. That's the same line he just gave me yesterday as to why he couldn't give me tracking. He said he gets home tomorrow to give me the tracking, but honestly, not sure if he even sent it, according to the day he shipped, it should be here by now.
He told me he was back on Monday lol... Mine was shipped but then stopped on July 12th in FL, so it is possible it was sent back to him. I believe that part, but informing your buyer would have been nice in the first place.
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No I didn't make a ton of loot. I unloaded it to my bif since he is from phx and collected pg. I only did that bc I figured he'd never sell. I was wrong. He made all the money, not me. I got a $500 pp gift kickback but still forfeited a $3k flip

So BamBam and I can puke together
don't you just hate that?

i've had ample time to make a 300% flip on my Luke super, but the guy sold it to me on ebay for a great price because I PC the hell out of him.
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