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Old 11-04-2013, 04:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs down ESTAN - promises to pay next morning for $500+ TTT breaks - 10days later & never pays

Two important points up front:

#1 - Yes, I know I am an idiot for taking him at his word and trusting him to pay next morning as promised. Completely my fault there.

#2 - I cannot leave him feedback here because the transaction happened on the BlowoutTV site, not here. (Unless I leave him feedback for trying to sell the card here that he never even paid for... still not sure what to do there.)

ESTAN has very good feedback here on BO - so I agreed to front him the $500+ for some TTT breaks on BlowoutTV. He promised to pay next morning.

He sent me a message or two over the next few days - promising to pay and asking again and again for my paypal email address.

He never paid.

He did, however, manage to post one of the cards he never paid for here for sale:

2013 TTT Bryce Harper auto f/s

No, he never had the card in hand. I'm dumb to trust him... but I'm not that dumb.

I was able to sell a few of the cards he hit the other day for almost $200 - plus there are still other cards - about $100 worth - that will go to COMC. So I am not out the full $500+.

I decided to warn the community since I cannot leave feedback here.

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Can I pay tomorrow lol
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I give my word !! I mean that thanks
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I really need you to come through on these payments.

You said you would pay today and it is after 11pm already.
I know I'm sorry I'm still trying to raise the funds I thought I could sell some cards fast but wasn't able to I'm trying now to raise the funds
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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WOOOOOOOW.
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I wouldn't say idiot or dumb I would say you trusted..He just ruined it for anyone else that needs a favor..I say give him the B.O.Ban anyway no matter were it happened.Sorry to hear houdini.
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Old 11-04-2013, 05:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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That sucks.

Maybe there was a medical emergency?

Maybe he lost his job?

Maybe God Bless?
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:08 AM   #5 (permalink)
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That sucks.

Maybe there was a medical emergency?

Maybe he lost his job?

Maybe God Bless?
I think this is one of those rare instances were "life got in the way".
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Wow. Just Wow.
Wouldn't BlowoutTv fall under the Blowout Cards umbrella?

I agree it's on you and I would do the same thing you are doing now, though there would be much more venom in my postings.

A person is only as good as his word.
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Wow. Just Wow.
Wouldn't BlowoutTv fall under the Blowout Cards umbrella?

I agree it's on you and I would do the same thing you are doing now, though there would be much more venom in my postings.

A person is only as good as his word.
I am asking for the mods opinion on the neg.

I actually waited a few extra days so that I could write this as calmly as possible - I also wanted to be sure to take responsibility for the part I played in allowing this to happen. All it took was a simple "no" from me and I need to remember that. Costly lesson.
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:57 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Id love to hear the members excuse..............
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:11 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Sounds like a Wimpy move - "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today"

Some people here on BO have to take a look at themselves and ask themselves if it is time to step back from the hobby for a little while. If you get to the point where you cannot make payment on a purchase you may have to rethink your spending habits. Most people here on BO want to help other collectors out and are giving as well as helpful in many ways because it is a community.

If payment was suppose to be made as promised, make the payment! Don't make people come looking for you!

Yes, things happen but a simple email or phone call can help in the long run.

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Old 11-04-2013, 08:32 AM   #10 (permalink)
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That sucks.

Maybe there was a medical emergency?

Maybe he lost his job?

Maybe God Bless?
Or perhaps he likes turtles? Or maybe he is busy pondering the age old question,.... Is a horse an athlete?




























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Old 11-04-2013, 08:57 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Well he gave Houdini his word so I guess that's something.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:23 AM   #12 (permalink)
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houdini, i'll give you my word for 500 hundo.




but seriously, good luck dude.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:26 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Id love to hear the members excuse..............
Sounds like he plan was to break it without any money, hit a big card, sell it, then use that to pay houdini. Guess when it didn't happen he tried to raise funds by selling some of it but couldn't get them sold in time. Dumb member.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:44 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Hmm...having problems with this member as well. Sent payment on a lot of cards - says he shipped Priority Mail but can't find receipt/tracking number. Promised to refund my payment today...see what happens.

Update - My purchase was refunded.
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:06 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Not the smartest thing for a member to do is make a bad deal with a mod...
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:38 AM   #16 (permalink)
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This moron has been on my ignore list for weeks simply for being a moron.
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:55 PM   #17 (permalink)
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"I give my word !! I mean that thanks"

I wouldn't believe anyone who says that lol

Looks like he was online this morning so hopefully you'll get an answer soon.
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Old 11-04-2013, 01:13 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Another thing I would like to point out is, why would they put "lol" in a message concerning a spot in a group break? To me it doesn't make no sense because in a potential purchase online, you would have to be more formal and serious.
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Old 11-04-2013, 02:09 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I've fronted before for certain members I believe i can trust on their word and have been lucky to receive it back thus far. But it's definitely uncomfortable at times and I won't be doing it as much. Good luck with the rest
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I'm not fronting anyone anything. He should get the ban hammer for trying to sell cards he doesn't have.
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If the member has time to log on to BO he should make the payment or just leave. At this point nobody wants to here any of his excuses.
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:33 PM   #22 (permalink)
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"I give my word !! I mean that thanks"

I wouldn't believe anyone who says that lol
Or ... "Can I pay tomorrow lol" ... "No you cannot "pay tomorrow lol'", because you owing me money is not funny to me"
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Old 11-04-2013, 05:25 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Sorry to hear, but why do so many people on this site front people hundreds of dollars. Thanks for the heads up, but there is no reason for this to happen. I think blowout needs to make a rule preventing people from loaning out money. Unless you are a bank you shouldn't be fronting people money. Not sure how many times people need to get scammed before they wake up. I can't feel sorry for people anymore when things like haiku happen and people still continue to do it over and over again!
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:39 PM   #24 (permalink)
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well he is online and responding to pms...so lets see if he avoids this thread...scammers suck
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:17 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Never scammed or intended to scam anyone the truth is I couldn't come up with the money and Houdini is absolutely correct I shouldn't have had him give me an IOU if I didn't have the funds to pay I'm very much in the wrong here I explained my end to the mods so they will do what they need to do but some of you people on here sending me threats and nasty pms are getting reported to the mods!
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