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Old 12-17-2013, 12:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I purchased this card raw, and when I got it, look at how HORRIBLE the condition is.

Now, sure, I paid about a hundred under eBay. But should I not be entitled to a card that is 50/50 centered, with an autograph drawn almost as if by an autopen, regardless of price?

Look at this card. It's as if when Frazier signed his auto he turned the pen tip kind of on its side at one point. And the card is so terribly off-center that I can't even look at it. I'm guessing, what, 80/20?




I contacted the seller -- I bought this as part of lot that included a blue Frazier, a Black Wave Frazier, a Green Frazier, and a Moran Green, the rest of which were in very good condition, I must admit -- and he's giving me a hard time about my wanting to return this one card from the lot for either a more perfectly centered card with a better auto, or else a full refund on this card. The others were priced really well, too, so those I'll keep, naturally.

I feel that just because I'm buying a raw card, I shouldn't have to settle for something that may not grade a 9.5/10.

Am I crazy for thinking this?

EDIT: before commenting and calling me names, please read the thread. I'm the VICTIM HERE, I tell you!
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Huh? I'm confused.......
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Huh? I'm confused.......

I think he joking and playing on the fact that some people will get cards and if they are not in perfect BGS 9.5 looking condition they will return them.
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I have the emails. The seller told me the card was in okay shape. Look at it, though. It's terrible. I shouldn't have to keep that, should I?
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I have the emails. The seller told me the card was in okay shape. Look at it, though. It's terrible. I shouldn't have to keep that, should I?
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Is this real life? 80/20? You are indeed crazy.
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Old 12-17-2013, 01:00 AM   #7 (permalink)
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The nerve of some sellers. I don't even get why they sell those cards. If it's not a 10 keep it in your PC, and STOP TRYING TO SELL YOUR TRASH!
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sadly we hear stories like this all the time...

protein, i think a better idea is perhaps contact the FBI cyber crimes unit. you were obviously being defrauded so you should have a slam dunk case on your hands. the nerve of some people not sending perfect 50/50 centering...
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I have the emails. The seller told me the card was in okay shape. Look at it, though. It's terrible. I shouldn't have to keep that, should I?
I'm hoping you're joking..........but if you're not, I'd say your expectations are just a bit unrealistic.
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Uh, no, I don't THINK so, Whodey14. That card is HORRIFICALLY off center. And can you not see that the auto is barely passable?

I have limited money. I work with children for a living, so I have to invest carefully. And this -- as the picture clearly shows -- is at BEST a BGS 8/9.
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Uh, no, I don't THINK so, Whodey14. That card is HORRIFICALLY off center. And can you not see that the auto is barely passable?

I have limited money. I work with children for a living, so I have to invest carefully. And this -- as the picture clearly shows -- is at BEST a BGS 8/9.
I'm not sure you can really even call it an autograph. Maybe an ograph, but more likely just a graph. Seller should be banned.

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Uh, no, I don't THINK so, Whodey14. That card is HORRIFICALLY off center. And can you not see that the auto is barely passable?

I have limited money. I work with children for a living, so I have to invest carefully. And this -- as the picture clearly shows -- is at BEST a BGS 8/9.
i think closer to a 7/7 then an 8/9. unless you slip an extra 20 in the order to BGS then, just maybe an 8/9
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Thanks for backing me up, guys. I'm going to send the seller a link to this thread as PROOF that he got caught sending me absolute garbage, and that I have every right to DEMAND a replacement that isn't so hideously off center, and with an autograph that doesn't look like it was slapped on there by a randy honey badger.
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That card is basically trash. You should not have to be stuck with it!!
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wow you sir are crazy... if the seller didn't advertise as gem mint and u saw an image of the cards its not the sellers responsibliuty .
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I think a $100 off of the selling point if you're unhappy, just sell it and move on. I don't think you were treated poorly at all as it appears the card is only off centered, and this years chrome seemed to be pretty hit and miss and looks much better than you're saying.
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lol this thread makes me think many thoughts
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He owes you two replacements. One of them should be a Jeter Autograph, just out of principal.
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He owes you two replacements. One of them should be a Jeter Autograph, just out of principal.
This guy gets it!!!
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Sucks about his signature itself though, he was signing like this just a few months ago!




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That card is basically trash. You should not have to be stuck with it!!
When did you start posting in the baseball section?
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Are you joking? Please tell me you are.......If not, folks similar to yourself are why I despise selling Chrome autos on eBay.
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Some of you I can tell are being sarcastic. But seriously, I asked if the card was in good shape, and he said yes. Then I got THIS.

I mean, are the corners sharp? Sure. And I guess the edges are good. But that centering -- if that's not 80/20 or 70/30, I don't know what IS! And that autograph is just so...individualistic. Almost as if he signed 35 of these and each signature wasn't exactly the same.

Dominic Smith cards don't have that problem, that's for sure.
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I have the emails. The seller told me the card was in okay shape. Look at it, though. It's terrible. I shouldn't have to keep that, should I?
WOW. You're one of those kinds of buyers.
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First off how much did u pay?
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Just go ahead and send it to me so you don't have to look at that trash anymore. I'll even pay for the shipping to take that disgusting thing off your hands.
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