UFC 154 Discussion Thread

Haze28 · 11-17-2012, 09:16 PM

Condit!!!!!!!

GoJays · 11-17-2012, 10:16 PM

Surprised to see nobody commenting on this. This event has been the most publicized UFC event since UFC @ Rogers Centre.

Any predictions? GSP or Condit?

migraine · 11-17-2012, 10:19 PM

GSP!

GoJays · 11-17-2012, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haze28

Condit!!!!!!!

I'm very conflicted with who to cheer for. As a Canadian I want to see the Canadian win, but as a Canadian I want to see the Quebecer lose

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Who to cheer for?!

DCN12586 · 11-18-2012, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoJays

I'm very conflicted with who to cheer for. As a Canadian I want to see the Canadian win, but as a Canadian I want to see the Quebecer lose

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Who to cheer for?!

GSP I got money on it.

GoJays · 11-18-2012, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DCN12586

GSP I got money on it.

I was joking on the earlier post, I'll be rooting for GSP.

Great opening round, hope he keeps it up!

GoJays · 11-18-2012, 12:21 AM

I feel for anyone watching in hd. That cut looked nasty on my pixelated computer, I can't imagine what it's like.

GoJays · 11-18-2012, 12:39 AM

Best fight I've seen in a long, long time. Wow. What a fight.

Srt42004n · 11-18-2012, 12:43 AM

Sets up GSP vs. Silva in Dallas Stadium next summer...

GoJays · 11-18-2012, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Srt42004n

Sets up GSP vs. Silva in Dallas Stadium next summer...

GSP doesn't stand a chance anywhere outside of Canada. It'd be open season for Silva.

Unless for some strange reason GSP/Silva takes place at the Big O, Georges St. Pierre has no chance at all against Anderson Silva.

gr8azn · 11-18-2012, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GoJays

GSP doesn't stand a chance anywhere outside of Canada. It'd be open season for Silva.

Unless for some strange reason GSP/Silva takes place at the Big O, Georges St. Pierre has no chance at all against Anderson Silva.

So your saying gsp is more powerful at home? Hmm i have some magical beans for you.

migraine · 11-18-2012, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by migraine

GSP!

told you

GoJays · 11-18-2012, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gr8azn

So your saying gsp is more powerful at home? Hmm i have some magical beans for you.

I refuse to accept any magical beans after those things I ate in Mexico. They did things to me man, crazy things

No denying GSP has an advantage in Montreal, or in Canada for that matter.

SandersAD#1 · 11-18-2012, 01:37 AM

Rematch in the making!!

MC80_LCM · 11-18-2012, 09:50 AM

Am I the only one that really doesn't have any interest in seeing Silva vs. GSP? I think WW has been built back up in the past year or two so that there are 4 or 5 legit matchups for GSP. Guys like Rory McDonald and Hendricks are viable contenders, Condit probably earned a rematch and there is always Diaz.

I have much more interest in a Silva vs. Jones fight.

creamybeige · 11-18-2012, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoJays

I feel for anyone watching in hd. That cut looked nasty on my pixelated computer, I can't imagine what it's like.

to be fair though.... gsp didnt come out much better

except for that thing sitting in front of him of course

Bryanjs14 · 11-18-2012, 11:07 AM

No rematch. Hendricks is next in line. Dana said it last night in the post fight press conference. GSP won't fight Rory, at least for the time being they have both stated this

creamybeige · 11-18-2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryanjs14

No rematch. Hendricks is next in line. Dana said it last night in the post fight press conference. GSP won't fight Rory, at least for the time being they have both stated this

why the hell would there be a rematch in a fight scored 50-45???

just because it was entertaining doesnt mean we need to see it twice.

I would LOVE to see GSP vs. Rory, but ill settle for a GSP Hendricks tune up for his fight with A.Silva next new years

fm8418 · 11-19-2012, 03:42 PM

Rory would get worked at this stage

I dont see how anyone wouldn't want to see GSP/SILVA. Not saying it would be a good/fair fight but it would be great to see. The smaller guy never wants it unless you're BJ Penn

sserrano49 · 11-19-2012, 06:32 PM

Id be very surprised if Hendricks doesn't get a shot. The guy is aggressive, has elite wrestling, and packs a big left punch. Everyone wants to see silva gsp but it doesnt make sense. GSP would have to go up at least 15 pounds to fight a guy who occasionally fights at 205. Silva Jones makes more sense. Give GSP a break though the guy just came off a career threatening injury and had a great performance.

Bryanjs14 · 11-19-2012, 07:43 PM

GSP walks around at 190-195. If they did a catch weight fight at 180lb (which is what I think will happen) he will still be cutting, and adding more more muscle. Anderson is absolutely a much larger fighter, walking around at 225 (although I have seen him looking like even more than that) so he would be cutting 40-50lbs for the fight, even if he puts some of that weight back on after weigh ins, that is still a GRUELING cut. I think that's a bit of an equalizer for the fight. Jones Silva makes more sense, but I would still want to see GSP fight him first.

fm8418 · 11-19-2012, 09:21 PM

The fight would most likely be 177. Firas wants it at 170...if it's 170 I would say the title has to be up for grabs

I dont think AS is walking around that high. He only weighed in at 202 for the Bonnar fight

Bryanjs14 · 11-20-2012, 08:56 AM

He absolutely is walking around at that. I met him in Houston at the fan convention last year and asked him that question and he said 220.... But he looked even heavier at the time. I have the picture to prove it if you want to see what a non fighting Anderson looks like lol, he looks like a different person.

I honestly think 180 will be the weight the fight will happen at.

hudsonfan15 · 11-22-2012, 08:37 AM

I really enjoyed 154, especially the last 2 fights. I thought we were in trouble with the way the Cote/Sakara fight ended but it turned out ok overall. I love Kampmann but I had a feeling about Hendricks to the point of having the cheapest BIN auto of his on the bay up on my ebay mobile app before the fight started and was in the process of paying for it before Martin was standing up. I hear from people who have trained with JH that his success with landing big strikes has developed this underestimation for his ground skills which are supposed to be sick.

Condit really hung in there with GSP after 2 rounds which didn't go his way but GSP was just too much. Granted they both look like they were in a fight afterwards unlike some of the other "elite" fighters after these highly-promoted matches but for a guy who said to everyone how he wasn't considering himself the champion until he beat GSP Condit did not seem to fight that way IMO. I know what his style typically is but when you know walking in that your opponent is better than you (provided he was 100%) you have to be more assertive and when you've lost 3 of 4 rounds you need to go for broke in round 5. I'm no insider but I get the impression that some of these guys think it is somehow better to lose an obvious (50-45 anyone?) decision than to get KO'd trying to end the fight when you're clearly losing. As Iron Maiden famously sang, "Die With Your Boots On!"

Finally, is anyone less excited for this Nelson/Mitrione fight than me? Because these may very well be my two least favorite fighters this side of Josh Koscheck. I enjoyed elements of this TUF season but this is as disappointing a climax as I could imagine, I seriously may not even watch. I would rather have had no fight than this, at least then I wouldn't feel guilty about not watching it.

Happy Thanksgiving!

fm8418 · 11-22-2012, 09:32 AM

Huh? Nelson is awesome to watch fight, even if he is a big idiot.

Consensus is this is the worst season of TUF.

11-17-2012, 10:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
GoJays Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,785	UFC 154 Discussion Thread Surprised to see nobody commenting on this. This event has been the most publicized UFC event since UFC @ Rogers Centre. Any predictions? GSP or Condit? __________________ NHL Officiating: helping out superstars and their teams any way they can since 1993.

11-18-2012, 12:21 AM	#7 (permalink)
GoJays Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,785	I feel for anyone watching in hd. That cut looked nasty on my pixelated computer, I can't imagine what it's like. __________________ NHL Officiating: helping out superstars and their teams any way they can since 1993.

11-18-2012, 12:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
GoJays Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,785	Best fight I've seen in a long, long time. Wow. What a fight. __________________ NHL Officiating: helping out superstars and their teams any way they can since 1993.

11-18-2012, 12:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
Srt42004n Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 10,773 I_Hate_Ebay	Sets up GSP vs. Silva in Dallas Stadium next summer... __________________ $ Saved for 2013 Bowman: $.00

11-18-2012, 01:37 AM	#14 (permalink)
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11-17-2012, 09:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Haze28 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 277 Hazinaround	Condit!!!!!!!

11-17-2012, 10:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
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11-18-2012, 09:50 AM	#15 (permalink)
MC80_LCM Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 333 sapp3-16	Am I the only one that really doesn't have any interest in seeing Silva vs. GSP? I think WW has been built back up in the past year or two so that there are 4 or 5 legit matchups for GSP. Guys like Rory McDonald and Hendricks are viable contenders, Condit probably earned a rematch and there is always Diaz. I have much more interest in a Silva vs. Jones fight. __________________ Looking for any and all Michael Clayton LCM cards

11-18-2012, 11:07 AM	#17 (permalink)
Bryanjs14 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,197 Sportscards386 Bryanjs14	No rematch. Hendricks is next in line. Dana said it last night in the post fight press conference. GSP won't fight Rory, at least for the time being they have both stated this

11-19-2012, 03:42 PM	#19 (permalink)
fm8418 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toledo, ohio Posts: 5,590 fm8418 fm8418	Rory would get worked at this stage I dont see how anyone wouldn't want to see GSP/SILVA. Not saying it would be a good/fair fight but it would be great to see. The smaller guy never wants it unless you're BJ Penn

11-19-2012, 06:32 PM	#20 (permalink)
sserrano49 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: New Mexico Posts: 829 sserrano1749	Id be very surprised if Hendricks doesn't get a shot. The guy is aggressive, has elite wrestling, and packs a big left punch. Everyone wants to see silva gsp but it doesnt make sense. GSP would have to go up at least 15 pounds to fight a guy who occasionally fights at 205. Silva Jones makes more sense. Give GSP a break though the guy just came off a career threatening injury and had a great performance. __________________ Collecting UFC, New York Yankees, New York Jets, Denver Nuggets. http://s1088.beta.photobucket.com/user/sserrano49/library/Football%20For%20Sale

11-19-2012, 07:43 PM	#21 (permalink)
Bryanjs14 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,197 Sportscards386 Bryanjs14	GSP walks around at 190-195. If they did a catch weight fight at 180lb (which is what I think will happen) he will still be cutting, and adding more more muscle. Anderson is absolutely a much larger fighter, walking around at 225 (although I have seen him looking like even more than that) so he would be cutting 40-50lbs for the fight, even if he puts some of that weight back on after weigh ins, that is still a GRUELING cut. I think that's a bit of an equalizer for the fight. Jones Silva makes more sense, but I would still want to see GSP fight him first.

11-19-2012, 09:21 PM	#22 (permalink)
fm8418 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toledo, ohio Posts: 5,590 fm8418 fm8418	The fight would most likely be 177. Firas wants it at 170...if it's 170 I would say the title has to be up for grabs I dont think AS is walking around that high. He only weighed in at 202 for the Bonnar fight

11-20-2012, 08:56 AM	#23 (permalink)
Bryanjs14 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,197 Sportscards386 Bryanjs14	He absolutely is walking around at that. I met him in Houston at the fan convention last year and asked him that question and he said 220.... But he looked even heavier at the time. I have the picture to prove it if you want to see what a non fighting Anderson looks like lol, he looks like a different person. I honestly think 180 will be the weight the fight will happen at.

11-22-2012, 08:37 AM	#24 (permalink)
hudsonfan15 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: CT, USA Posts: 24 specialoccasions	I really enjoyed 154, especially the last 2 fights. I thought we were in trouble with the way the Cote/Sakara fight ended but it turned out ok overall. I love Kampmann but I had a feeling about Hendricks to the point of having the cheapest BIN auto of his on the bay up on my ebay mobile app before the fight started and was in the process of paying for it before Martin was standing up. I hear from people who have trained with JH that his success with landing big strikes has developed this underestimation for his ground skills which are supposed to be sick. Condit really hung in there with GSP after 2 rounds which didn't go his way but GSP was just too much. Granted they both look like they were in a fight afterwards unlike some of the other "elite" fighters after these highly-promoted matches but for a guy who said to everyone how he wasn't considering himself the champion until he beat GSP Condit did not seem to fight that way IMO. I know what his style typically is but when you know walking in that your opponent is better than you (provided he was 100%) you have to be more assertive and when you've lost 3 of 4 rounds you need to go for broke in round 5. I'm no insider but I get the impression that some of these guys think it is somehow better to lose an obvious (50-45 anyone?) decision than to get KO'd trying to end the fight when you're clearly losing. As Iron Maiden famously sang, "Die With Your Boots On!" Finally, is anyone less excited for this Nelson/Mitrione fight than me? Because these may very well be my two least favorite fighters this side of Josh Koscheck. I enjoyed elements of this TUF season but this is as disappointing a climax as I could imagine, I seriously may not even watch. I would rather have had no fight than this, at least then I wouldn't feel guilty about not watching it. Happy Thanksgiving!

11-22-2012, 09:32 AM	#25 (permalink)
fm8418 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toledo, ohio Posts: 5,590 fm8418 fm8418	Huh? Nelson is awesome to watch fight, even if he is a big idiot. Consensus is this is the worst season of TUF.

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