SportsCardNation.com Weekly Update (8/8/2008

[KaraandMelliesDaddy]

Originally Posted by otmack2o

Ahh, the stipulations have changed... OK, how about Bowman Sterling? Is that high end to you?

If $60 a pack MSRP isn't high end, then this hobby is going nuts. Of course it is high end, but that is one where over the course of time you have a decent chance to make your money back.

As for products that you can be guaranteed to make money on, there are none, but if you take an educated guess you can do pretty well. I've only lost on two products in the past three years, 2007 Topps Chrome Baseball and 2005-06 Ultra hockey.

I totally missed Topps Chrome Baseball. I bought Ultra too high.

Its getting harder now, but look at the content of the products and you can pretty much tell if its a dog.

Example: 2008-09 Ultra. Dog. Only one autograph instead of eight in a case like last year, best inserts in retail (again!) and game used is worthless in this product. Will have SP rookies, but no one real good will be in anything but the redemption set, just like last year. I wouldn't touch this product at $400 a case, let alone what it is going for... I hope UD spices it up, I have an insider who told me they were going to, but I'll have to see it to believe it.

2008-09 OPC. Dog. One autograph a case and a real cruddy rookie lineup. No redemptions, so they may be planning a rookie update this year, but that is no reason to do this set. The parallel set could save it, but I hope they throw a few bigger names in that rookie lineup. (FYI, 2007-08's checklist went from great to terrible, so they could improve it too.)

2008 Topps Chrome Football. Winner. Has a track record of going to $900-1000 a case by November, every year. Is this year's rookie class as good as 2007? No. But it may be as good as 2006, and that should push this. Plus its a set that most collectors do every year, so that will help as well.


Don't just go by what SportsCardNation.com or KD says, its your dollar, you figure out what you want to do. I do Topps Chrome baseball every year. I lost last year, and I probably lost this year, but its the set I do every year so I don't really care.

I did Score football last year and made a mint. I skipped it this year because I don't need to do this to make money any more, but you can if you want to on this one.

There are products out there you can still break for profit. Generally you should pay less than $700 a case for it unless it has Bowman and or Chrome or O-Pee-Chee in its name. Use your brains people! You will have more money to spend on the hobby.

[jacobbigshow]

Sorry Bowman Sterling seems high end but you get too much for it to be high end. You are really spending $15 per hit comparted to $80 for TTT. And they are not saying what is the best case to break, they are saying what case has the best chance of raising in price in the future, TTT may suck, but it will still go up.

[solt0131]

I actually think you can make more money busting 2008 Topps Chrome Football than you can holding it. If you get it low enough ($650 or lower). You can sell every card in the case(s) and you can also do better by selling the box toppers unopened.

You can say the 08/09 hockey products are dog's, but the fact is people still buy the sets and insert sets, etc. That's what makes these a winner, not the auto's. Last year I had 8 autos in my Ultra cases and they all stunk. I did better with my Ice Medallion #/100 than the auto's. It also helps when a lot of my sets are already presold though.

[KaraandMelliesDaddy]

Originally Posted by solt0131

You can say the 08/09 hockey products are dog's, but the fact is people still buy the sets and insert sets, etc. That's what makes these a winner, not the auto's. Last year I had 8 autos in my Ultra cases and they all stunk. I did better with my Ice Medallion #/100 than the auto's. It also helps when a lot of my sets are already presold though.

There still is a chance for them to be good. Ultra needs to go back to the autograph 1 in every 1 1/2 boxes like last year, and it sounds like they may.

OPC needs a major, major checklist overhaul, but they can't post a player to the set until they debut. I will be waiting until the season start checklist is released to pull the trigger, and I think the 1979-80 OPC parallel will be the best one yet. I'm thinking 4-5 cases if they improve the rookie checklist a little.

I'll gladly pre-sell you my Ultra sets if you want them.

[blackandgold]

2008 Topps Chrome is at 740 a case and release is 8-27-08
What does this product do go up or down before release?

[otmack2o]

Originally Posted by blackandgold

2008 Topps Chrome is at 740 a case and release is 8-27-08
What does this product do go up or down before release?

If there is any movement, I think it will be upward.

[KaraandMelliesDaddy]

Originally Posted by otmack2o

If there is any movement, I think it will be upward.

Bottom at this point may be $700, there are still 3 weeks until release, it could still take a crap.

[festus]

Originally Posted by KaraandMelliesDaddy

Bottom at this point may be $700, there are still 3 weeks until release, it could still take a crap.

topps chrome football will not take a "crap".

[KaraandMelliesDaddy]

Originally Posted by festus

topps chrome football will not take a "crap".

Yeah, and the Titanic couldn't sink. This rookie class is very weak. I'm not saying it will take a crap, I am saying that it can. Arrogant statements like that is what causes people to lose money in this hobby.

But WTF do I know, I've only been doing this since 1990. I don't know anything.

[festus]

Originally Posted by KaraandMelliesDaddy

Yeah, and the Titanic couldn't sink. This rookie class is very weak. I'm not saying it will take a crap, I am saying that it can. Arrogant statements like that is what causes people to lose money in this hobby.

But WTF do I know, I've only been doing this since 1990. I don't know anything.

rookie class is very weak? 5 running backs in the first round?? mcfadden weak?? this time last year everyone was saying how the 2007 class was weak.

EVERYTHING thing 2006 football took an absolute dump: sp authentic, spx, contenders, exquisite, sterling, finest, bowman chrome, etc etc. only one product stayed way above presell: 2006 topps chrome football. it was 625-650 a case out of the gate. if you can find them now, 900+

my "emotion-free" opinion stating 2008 topps chrome will not take a crap is based on trends. regardless of the "weakness" there is still a huge following. i dont see any "arrogance" in that so save your insults for someone more deserving.