Leaf unveils Shoeless Joe Jackson 1/1 Cut Signature

blowoutcards2 · 05-19-2011, 03:45 PM

This is the Joe Jackson 1/1 cut signature card that will be awarded at the 2011 National Sports Collectors Convention. This is Joe's first ever cut signature card, which we expect to bring $60,000-$100,000 in the marketplace. It is available via a redemption program in 2010 Leaf Sports Icons Update packs.

warlordforever · 05-19-2011, 04:09 PM

its an awesome card but signature it a 5 out 10

esaslo · 05-19-2011, 04:09 PM

I posted a comment anyone (perhaps a group) want to go in with me on presenting the "most complete" set at the nationals to claim the last (#4) clover. Everyone qualified for a clover gets some type of bounty (a case is the min); we can figure out how to split it at the national; however, everyone would get something.

This being said, you'd need to attend to the national, and respond with a list of whatever you have. I'm good for a couple cases or so, depending on doubles.

Just let me know -- would really like to do this. Think it is a true win-win if we get to a high enough number in person.

Thanks!

ES

mindbinge · 05-19-2011, 04:28 PM

saw something on one of the shows on Discovery or whatever about Joe Jackson not being able to read or write to the point of not being able to write his own name? If so, what is the story behind this one?

mwheeler27 · 05-19-2011, 05:25 PM

There are only around 6 known examples of Joe Jackson's signature from his own hand. As I understand it, most of his autos were signed by his wife.

Someone above mentioned this auto might only be a 5 out of a 10. That would be pretty good for an auto this rare and extremely collectible. Even his wife's signature of his name commands over $1000!

XL5 · 05-19-2011, 05:29 PM

"recognizanc..." What is that document? A bail bond?

Pitty they chopped it but it's still a nice card.

Good luck on putting a set together, esaslo!

mindbinge · 05-19-2011, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL5

"recognizanc..." What is that document? A bail bond?

Pitty they chopped it but it's still a nice card.

Good luck on putting a set together, esaslo!

looked around a bit, and it seems he has signed a few docs, all poorly written and most notorized...a lot are bonds for his brother Dave...not sure what that was all about...this looks like one from there.

Razorsharp79 · 05-20-2011, 03:26 PM

pay 60k-100k for that...haha...now thats funny. I would like to have the persons money who blows 60-100k on that, so much better stuff to buy than that awful looking cut. And wheeler I know it rare, but look at it, I mean come on...

mwheeler27 · 05-20-2011, 05:26 PM

I could be mistaken, but one like that sold for over $70K last year in Baltimore at auction at the National.

XL5 · 05-20-2011, 05:45 PM

What could you expect in terms of the IRS if you got this card? I mean it's not like it's from a pack you open anonymously.

Zacky1053 · 05-20-2011, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blowoutcards2

which we expect to bring $60,000-$100,000 in the marketplace.

Wow, I thought the card companies try to stay away from placing values on their cards

Aaron · 05-20-2011, 11:31 PM

I believe that says "France Rocognizance" .. perhaps part of a newspaper?

bboi30 · 05-20-2011, 11:48 PM

Yes it is true he could not read or write which is why his signatures are very rare yet horrible looking. This is why his so called auto's command such a sticker price. The fact that there are literally an extremely limited supply out there makes this a must have for any serious baseball collector.

I wouldnt be surprised if this card gets much more than 100k especially if it has been authenticated.

ES good luck brother. That card is gonna make someone faint thats for sure.

Shogun2049 · 05-27-2011, 05:44 AM

The first word doesn't look like France to me. If you look closely, you can see a very small amount of the letter before "rance", and it's NOT an "F". It looks more like an "A", especially if you compare it to the "A" in Recognizance.

Basically, this looks like a Bail Bond type of form. I believe Mindbinge is correct in what it is from.

aggie4ever · 05-27-2011, 10:37 AM

Here's a link to another story about the card, and it includes a picture of the original document that the autograph was taken from:

2010 Leaf Shoeless Joe Jackson Cut - FanBro.com|FanBro.com

FreeFlow · 05-29-2011, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esaslo

I posted a comment anyone (perhaps a group) want to go in with me on presenting the "most complete" set at the nationals to claim the last (#4) clover. Everyone qualified for a clover gets some type of bounty (a case is the min); we can figure out how to split it at the national; however, everyone would get something.

This being said, you'd need to attend to the national, and respond with a list of whatever you have. I'm good for a couple cases or so, depending on doubles.

Just let me know -- would really like to do this. Think it is a true win-win if we get to a high enough number in person.

Thanks!

ES

PM me, I might be interested....

I found what this cut was from here, it is in fact a bail bond

2010 Leaf Shoeless Joe Jackson Cut - FanBro.com|FanBro.com

FreeFlow · 05-29-2011, 09:59 AM

[QUOTE=FreeFlow;1341013]PM me, I might be interested....

FreeFlow · 05-29-2011, 10:03 AM

LOL fail on my part.... didn't notice the guy above me posted it already.

can't edit

Anyways, does anyone know how they are doing this? Each clover you have is one entry into the drawing?

mwheeler27 · 05-29-2011, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeFlow

LOL fail on my part.... didn't notice the guy above me posted it already.

can't edit

Anyways, does anyone know how they are doing this? Each clover you have is one entry into the drawing?

It's been a while since I heard the details, but I believe there are 3 clover cards inserted into the product for a total of 3 entries. And then there's one more entry that will be accepted by the person that shows they have the most complete set of cards from this set.

So in essence, each entrant will have at least a 25% chance of winning the Shoeless Joe Jackson card!

JDK16 · 05-29-2011, 10:57 PM

one of the clover cards was pulled at my lcs.. the owner offered him ten grand on the spot for the 1/4 chance and the guy passed

jimssouvenirs · 05-29-2011, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDK16

one of the clover cards was pulled at my lcs.. the owner offered him ten grand on the spot for the 1/4 chance and the guy passed

Sounds like someone will be very disappointed if he doesn't win the card haha

JDK16 · 05-29-2011, 11:16 PM

yea i guess hes a big gambler i would have took the 10 grand and ran.. My lcs owner thinks if he got the clover from the guy he could flip for around 15-17 at nationals im not so sure of that figure but who knows..

Riversoule · 05-30-2011, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

It's been a while since I heard the details, but I believe there are 3 clover cards inserted into the product for a total of 3 entries. And then there's one more entry that will be accepted by the person that shows they have the most complete set of cards from this set.

So in essence, each entrant will have at least a 25% chance of winning the Shoeless Joe Jackson card!

I think you are correct Wheeler. I was hoping for one of those Clovers, then hit that Babe Ruth Stamp and quit.

It's very cool for the Hobby and for Baseball History fans to see an autograph like this surface. Gotta give credit to Leaf for this promotion.

Luke2411 · 08-22-2011, 09:44 PM

So, anyone know how this all ended up?

iluvfish2 · 08-22-2011, 10:03 PM

Yeah - video I think on the front of blowouts webpage ... guy almost passed out (but so would I).

Blowoutcards 2011 National Sports Collectors Convention Recap Video (Chicago)

05-19-2011, 03:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
blowoutcards2 Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,975 blowoutcards	Leaf unveils Shoeless Joe Jackson 1/1 Cut Signature This is the Joe Jackson 1/1 cut signature card that will be awarded at the 2011 National Sports Collectors Convention. This is Joe's first ever cut signature card, which we expect to bring $60,000-$100,000 in the marketplace. It is available via a redemption program in 2010 Leaf Sports Icons Update packs. __________________ Shop for Sports Cards and Trading Cards

05-19-2011, 04:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
warlordforever Inactive Account Join Date: May 2011 Location: nyc Posts: 1,712	cool card its an awesome card but signature it a 5 out 10

05-19-2011, 04:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
esaslo Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 1,523 esaslo	I posted a comment anyone (perhaps a group) want to go in with me on presenting the "most complete" set at the nationals to claim the last (#4) clover. Everyone qualified for a clover gets some type of bounty (a case is the min); we can figure out how to split it at the national; however, everyone would get something. This being said, you'd need to attend to the national, and respond with a list of whatever you have. I'm good for a couple cases or so, depending on doubles. Just let me know -- would really like to do this. Think it is a true win-win if we get to a high enough number in person. Thanks! ES __________________ I'll save you the PM: Yes, I collect Peanuts Fine Art.

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mindbinge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bristol, VA Posts: 5,814 mindbinge mindbinge	saw something on one of the shows on Discovery or whatever about Joe Jackson not being able to read or write to the point of not being able to write his own name? If so, what is the story behind this one? __________________ Super Collector - Looking for anything of Ahmad Bradshaw!- See my collection at: Bradshaw44.com

05-19-2011, 05:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
mwheeler27 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NorthEast Kansas Posts: 11,423 mwheeler27	There are only around 6 known examples of Joe Jackson's signature from his own hand. As I understand it, most of his autos were signed by his wife. Someone above mentioned this auto might only be a 5 out of a 10. That would be pretty good for an auto this rare and extremely collectible. Even his wife's signature of his name commands over $1000! __________________ Check out my high-end cards for sale on COMC...username: mwheeler27

05-19-2011, 05:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
XL5 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,889 xl5	"recognizanc..." What is that document? A bail bond? Pitty they chopped it but it's still a nice card. Good luck on putting a set together, esaslo!

05-20-2011, 03:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
Razorsharp79 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: SC Posts: 7,942 pristine_gems	pay 60k-100k for that...haha...now thats funny. I would like to have the persons money who blows 60-100k on that, so much better stuff to buy than that awful looking cut. And wheeler I know it rare, but look at it, I mean come on... __________________ BUYING 1/1 Rookie Autos Chrome, SPA, NT, EXQ and Contenders

05-20-2011, 05:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
mwheeler27 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NorthEast Kansas Posts: 11,423 mwheeler27	I could be mistaken, but one like that sold for over $70K last year in Baltimore at auction at the National. __________________ Check out my high-end cards for sale on COMC...username: mwheeler27

05-20-2011, 05:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
XL5 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,889 xl5	What could you expect in terms of the IRS if you got this card? I mean it's not like it's from a pack you open anonymously.

05-20-2011, 11:31 PM	#12 (permalink)
Aaron Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 2,198 zombiereign	I believe that says "France Rocognizance" .. perhaps part of a newspaper? __________________ youtube: achau9598 Xbox: Zombiereign

05-20-2011, 11:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
bboi30 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Killa Kali Posts: 5,561	Yes it is true he could not read or write which is why his signatures are very rare yet horrible looking. This is why his so called auto's command such a sticker price. The fact that there are literally an extremely limited supply out there makes this a must have for any serious baseball collector. I wouldnt be surprised if this card gets much more than 100k especially if it has been authenticated. ES good luck brother. That card is gonna make someone faint thats for sure. __________________ THE OFFICIAL BLOWOUT RESIDENT SUPER COLLECTOR OF FRANK THOMAS BASE & UP. MY PC NFS/NFT: http://www.zistle.com/bboi30/collections/baseball

05-27-2011, 05:44 AM	#14 (permalink)
Shogun2049 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Woodland, CA Posts: 980 nerdboy555	The first word doesn't look like France to me. If you look closely, you can see a very small amount of the letter before "rance", and it's NOT an "F". It looks more like an "A", especially if you compare it to the "A" in Recognizance. Basically, this looks like a Bail Bond type of form. I believe Mindbinge is correct in what it is from.

05-27-2011, 10:37 AM	#15 (permalink)
aggie4ever Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,325 aggie4ever	Here's a link to another story about the card, and it includes a picture of the original document that the autograph was taken from: 2010 Leaf Shoeless Joe Jackson Cut - FanBro.com\|FanBro.com

05-29-2011, 09:59 AM	#17 (permalink)
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FreeFlow Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,790 greatdeals4u2savecash	LOL fail on my part.... didn't notice the guy above me posted it already. can't edit Anyways, does anyone know how they are doing this? Each clover you have is one entry into the drawing? __________________ http://s1107.photobucket.com/home/wiidiis/index Check my bucket. Tons FT/FS. Raider Nation -- Current Football PC: RG3, AJ Green, Andy Dalton. Basketball PC: Lakers, Mainly Kobe Bryant, Magic and KAJ

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JDK16 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 5,676	yea i guess hes a big gambler i would have took the 10 grand and ran.. My lcs owner thinks if he got the clover from the guy he could flip for around 15-17 at nationals im not so sure of that figure but who knows.. __________________ MY CARDS- http://s1181.photobucket.com/home/JDK16_28/index COLLECTOR OF ERIC BERRY AND FREDDIE FREEMAN MOST WANTED CARD ERIC BERRY TOPPS CHROME SUPERFRACTOR

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Luke2411 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 128 Luke2411	So, anyone know how this all ended up?

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