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Old 02-11-2009, 08:20 PM   #51 (permalink)
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The Van Buren auto is really really nice!

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John Tyler

08 Razor Oval Office Cut auto 1/1 John Tyler president - eBay (item 290295823437 end time Feb-16-09 19:29:30 PST)
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god thats gotta hurt.

nixon/ford ended at 810

harry truman/bess truman ended at 1009

yikes
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god thats gotta hurt.

nixon/ford ended at 810

harry truman/bess truman ended at 1009

yikes

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2008 Razor Oval Office Cut auto Nixon Ford 1/1 dual - eBay (item 290294675375 end time Feb-11-09 19:25:15 PST)

2008 Razor Oval Office Cut auto Harry Truman 1/1 dual - eBay (item 290294675110 end time Feb-11-09 19:22:57 PST)

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LMAO WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA? why you gotta throw my name in there.
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Well the First one was $115 the second was $118 for a 5% share of the sales So basically from my perspective I figured Spend $240 with a legit shot at getting a huge return or spend $240 on a 3 boxes of ultimate collection and get 3 Cards worth $10. So the way it basically works if the card sells for $1000 after fees then every share would recieve $50 per share they bought into.

On the other hand say we pull the Lincoln/Washington and sells for $20,000 after fees then everyone would recieve $1000 per share!

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im too lazy to do the math...how much did each share end up with?
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Sealed pack prices are going to start to free fall. Watch out!
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i better open up more CC's

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Originally Posted by weatherwarrior
Well the First one was $115 the second was $118 for a 5% share of the sales So basically from my perspective I figured Spend $240 with a legit shot at getting a huge return or spend $240 on a 3 boxes of ultimate collection and get 3 Cards worth $10. So the way it basically works if the card sells for $1000 after fees then every share would recieve $50 per share they bought into.

On the other hand say we pull the Lincoln/Washington and sells for $20,000 after fees then everyone would recieve $1000 per share!

Hope this Helps Capt!

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im too lazy to do the math...how much did each share end up with?
After doing some heavy addition, a little bit of calculus, carrying the 1 and double checking with an abicus, I have determined each share to be roughly worth the price of 3 cards from Ultimate Collection=...$10 per share!
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my abicus is broke. wtf can i say lol
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Too bad eBay doesn't allow you to bid up your auctions or those could have possibly sold for more.
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Too bad eBay doesn't allow you to bid up your auctions or those could have possibly sold for more.
Ok, that post cracked me up! Lol, yeah if only!

I can't believe how little those went for. I would've thought a Nixon-Ford would have more kitsch value. I wish I had paid more attention to that auction.
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haha, I never decided to learn about my presidents so I don't remember a John Tyler.
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learn something: John Tyler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Ok, that post cracked me up! Lol, yeah if only!

I can't believe how little those went for. I would've thought a Nixon-Ford would have more kitsch value. I wish I had paid more attention to that auction.
one word: RAZOR

if it was a major company doing the release double or triple what they sold for.
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one word: RAZOR

if it was a major company doing the release double or triple what they sold for.
So if/when Razor becomes a major company, will these cards go way up in value?

With UD and Topps losing their NBA license, and more and more collectors upset with their new releases, can the kings be dethroned by the likes of Razor?

Razor continues to give collectors what they want. If they don't go bankrupt, or just plain quit, I think they could make a run at the top. I know that's a bold statement...but who knows.
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So if/when Razor becomes a major company, will these cards go way up in value?

With UD and Topps losing their NBA license, and more and more collectors upset with their new releases, can the kings be dethroned by the likes of Razor?

Razor continues to give collectors what they want. If they don't go bankrupt, or just plain quit, I think they could make a run at the top. I know that's a bold statement...but who knows.
I am thinking that Topps has been around over 50 years, donruss over 25 years, upperdeck 20 years and razor has like 2. Razor cards are nice and true they do give the collectors what they want but it will be sometime before they are at the top level. Remember collectors Edge and Wild Card were very hot when they released and they lasted a few years, now you could use them if your table is wobbling to even it out.
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you got beckett backing this product, thats not going to hurt its value even if they fall off the end of the earth.
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Wow these cards are not paying out at all. I think the poster who mentioned that cut signatures are not as collectable may be right on. The document that a signature is on has historical significance which is what creates the value. If you tried selling an index card with George Bush's signature it may fetch $20. But put his name on a historical document it would be 20-50X that.

Now for this product Raxor is taking index cards and pieces of scrap paper and putting them in the set. Obviously they are not destroying historical documents b/c the documents would carry a lot more value.

I've found a few authentic Lincoln autographed documents with PSA/DNA certs that are only selling for $9-10K at dealers which means the Lincoln card will only carry $4-$5K in value to the owner and that is probably the best card in the set.

Prediction....Only a handful of cards will make the money back
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Razor continues to give collectors what they want. If they don't go bankrupt, or just plain quit, I think they could make a run at the top. I know that's a bold statement...but who knows.
From what I have seen of Razor thus far, I really like their products. I have had good luck with the 3 boxes of Signature Series that I have opened. Of course I pulled 3 parallels autos numbered to 25 (Tim Beckham, Casey Kelly, Robbie Grossman) which definitely beat the odds. I have been debating trying to get the complete auto set built.

You have to give them credit for trying to mix it up and put a product on the market at 2500+.
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You have to give them credit for trying to mix it up and put a product on the market at 2500+.
I agree.

Like this set or not, it will go down in history as one that people will forever talk about.
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I agree.

Like this set or not, it will go down in history as one that people will forever talk about.
I also agree that this set will go down in history.
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think more people are hearing about it. Seems like alot more bids. Maybe the word has started to get to the collectors that don't usually do cards.
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i think the problem is not that it is razor, but the fact that there are other presidential cut autos out there. While its not exactly the same thing as when autos were introduced into the hobby, but its similar. While they are still tough pulls out of other products, cut autos are getting to be much more common and hence hurting their value.
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