Razor Oval Office Tracker!

[UpNorthOutWest]

Uh, not to rain on PMac's parade (pull of a lifetime, by the way -- unbelievable), but a commenter on his You Tube video raises a point I hadn't considered: "Say hello to higher taxes." Bonds' home run ball ‘an expensive catch‘ - Barry Bonds- nbcsports.msnbc.com

[swjedi2000]

Originally Posted by UpNorthOutWest

Uh, not to rain on PMac's parade (pull of a lifetime, by the way -- unbelievable), but a commenter on his You Tube video raises a point I hadn't considered: "Say hello to higher taxes." Bonds' home run ball ‘an expensive catch‘ - Barry Bonds- nbcsports.msnbc.com

I'd like to have this problem...

[prodigylush]

How are dual autos selling for a fraction of what the Grant sold for? Wow - astonishing to me personally - thoughts?

[Zerokruel]

Originally Posted by prodigylush

How are dual autos selling for a fraction of what the Grant sold for? Wow - astonishing to me personally - thoughts?

Not everyone may want those two people. You get a dual auto of Brett Favre and Alex Smith. One person carries the card, and the Favre would probably get more on his own. It might be the same for these on some (not all). Some people might prefer some of these historical figures alone and not combined.

[newengland4me]

2008 Razor oval office cut 1/1 James Madison / Monroe

2008 Razor oval office cut 1/1 James Madison / Monroe - eBay (item 290297416144 end time Feb-28-09 20:49:45 PST)


2008 Razor oval office cut 1/1 Gerald Ford auto

2008 Razor oval office cut 1/1 Gerald Ford auto - eBay (item 290297481976 end time Mar-01-09 06:12:40 PST)

2008 razor oval office of Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

2008 Razor oval office cut 1/1 Reagan Bush dual auto - eBay (item 290297482919 end time Mar-01-09 06:19:44 PST)

2008 razor oval office of William and Helen taft

2008 Razor oval office cut 1/1 William Taft dual auto - eBay (item 290297483414 end time Mar-01-09 06:23:30 PST)

[pat_blowoutcards]

thanks, newengland4me

also, obama/mccain was pulled

BARACK OBAMA & MCCAIN 08 DUAL CUT AUTO RAZOR OVAL 1/1 - eBay (item 360133077489 end time Feb-26-09 11:24:35 PST)

[aggie4ever]

Originally Posted by prodigylush

How are dual autos selling for a fraction of what the Grant sold for? Wow - astonishing to me personally - thoughts?

There are a lot of civil war collectors out there, that probably helped push the price of the Grant up. I would expect the same with any signers of the declaration/constitution, there are a lot of collectors chasing those autographs.

The seller also used BIN/BO, unlike the others who let the auctions run. Maybe that's the best way to sell these? Or run them as BIN/BO initially to get some interest in the card, then relist it as an auction? Not sure what the best way would be...

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by Zerokruel

How about this, lets say it 20 years from now and were at an auction. Why should I buy this product with the "cut" auto instead of buying the entire document.

I like your post. It's well put. And to answer your question...Because George Washington and Abraham Lincoln never signed the same document.

In regards to the single cut autos and their respective documents, unless this set is extremely popular still 20 years down the road, I'd have to agree with you and say the document.

You never know, there could end up being a law right around the corner where it becomes illegal to destroy a historical document in order to sell a signature. I'm surprised there aren't any regulations on it now. If for some reason that law happened tomorrow, you can bet these cards would be worth an untold fortune.

Something to think about I guess.

[fsu2007]

WOW someone listing $20,000 for Mcain and Obama. The Obama Jackie Robinson only got $4050

[Zerokruel]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

I like your post. It's well put. And to answer your question...Because George Washington and Abraham Lincoln never signed the same document.

In regards to the single cut autos and their respective documents, unless this set is extremely popular still 20 years down the road, I'd have to agree with you and say the document.

You never know, there could end up being a law right around the corner where it becomes illegal to destroy a historical document in order to sell a signature. I'm surprised there aren't any regulations on it now. If for some reason that law happened tomorrow, you can bet these cards would be worth an untold fortune.

Something to think about I guess.

That right there is something I didn't think of! If something like that were to pass, well that would actually change the outlook on everything!

[pmac9286]

Originally Posted by swjedi2000

I'd like to have this problem...

Haha well put... Im def ok with this problem

[mmbtvs]

here's a new one, grant/lee on the bay

2008 razor oval office ULYSSES S. GRANT/ROBERT E. LEE - eBay (item 170304781424 end time Mar-02-09 20:49:09 PST)

[LuckyPimp]

That grant is nice, too bad its way too much money.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by mmbtvs

here's a new one, grant/lee on the bay

2008 razor oval office ULYSSES S. GRANT/ROBERT E. LEE - eBay (item 170304781424 end time Mar-02-09 20:49:09 PST)

FYI...These are two different cards. The Grant is the same Grant that sold for $7,000 BIN a week or so ago. The Lee is from a different product 5 years ago.

Now I understand why this guy paid $7000 for the Grant...so he could list these 2 together. Not a bad move, but I bet he could have got the Grant for quite a bit less than $7K.

[fsu2007]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

FYI...These are two different cards. The Grant is the same Grant that sold for $7,000 BIN a week or so ago. The Lee is from a different product 5 years ago.

Now I understand why this guy paid $7000 for the Grant...so he could list these 2 together. Not a bad move, but I bet he could have got the Grant for quite a bit less than $7K.

totally agree that he could have got that Grant for less.

[pmac9286]

Beckett announces the Washington/Lincoln is coming soon!!!
Beckett Media LP

[mwheeler27]

Roosevelt/Churchill just listed:

Roosevelt /Churchill 08 Razor Oval Office Cut Auto 1/1 - eBay (item 110355320652 end time Mar-24-09 15:48:06 PDT)

This should bring a nice return in good economic times.

[swjedi2000]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

Roosevelt/Churchill just listed:

Roosevelt /Churchill 08 Razor Oval Office Cut Auto 1/1 - eBay (item 110355320652 end time Mar-24-09 15:48:06 PDT)

This should bring a nice return in good economic times.

Thats a nice looking card!

[pmac9286]

LINCOLN/WASHINGTON ON EBAY!

Razor Oval Office GEORGE WASHINGTON A. LINCOLN 1/1 AUTO - eBay (item 300295132722 end time Mar-01-09 19:00:00 PST)

[pmac9286]

http://beta.beckett.com/group/476738...87#ViewArticle

[pat_blowoutcards]

BENJAMIN HARRISON & GROVER
BENJAMIN HARRISON & GROVER DUAL CUT AUTO RAZOR OVAL 1/1 - eBay (item 360134210794 end time Mar-02-09 11:50:23 PST)

JAMES K. POLK
JAMES K. POLK CUT AUTO RAZOR OVAL 1/1 11TH PRESIDENT - eBay (item 360134456979 end time Mar-03-09 12:04:14 PST)

[mfw13]

Just to update, eight (8) cards have been sold so far, as follows:

#6 - Ulysses S. Grant - $7000 (via BIN)
#36 - John Tyler - $1010
#38 - Martin Van Buren - $810
#67 - Richard Nixon/Gerald Ford - $810
#70 - Calvin & Grace Coolidge - $810
#75 - Ronald Reagan/Bush 41 - $1050 (via Best Offer)
#81 - Ronald Reagan/Mikhail Gorbachev - $1211
#94 - Harry & Bess Truman - $1009

Two other cards were listed with reserves and did not sell:

#49 - Benjamin & Catherine Harrison - reached $576
#91 - Warren Harding/Calvin Coolidge - reached $510

[Bigblue]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

Roosevelt/Churchill just listed:

Roosevelt /Churchill 08 Razor Oval Office Cut Auto 1/1 - eBay (item 110355320652 end time Mar-24-09 15:48:06 PDT)

This should bring a nice return in good economic times.

Uuugh, the guy selling this had 5 negs in the past sixth months!! That's going to hurt serious bidders...possibly??

[Johnsmithysmith]

Hi

just wondering. Right you have better odds from this than you do lotto.


But just curious i have looked in this thread has many people sold there box above the price they bought it for. Having a look a lot of people would of lost money on this and few lucky ones make heaps.

I wouldn't risk it as im a Aussie and 2500 US is like 4 grand Aussie too big a gamble for me to spend on one card hoping to get a good card.

[IndySportsCards]

Originally Posted by Johnsmithysmith

I wouldn't risk it as im a Aussie and 2500 US is like 4 grand Aussie too big a gamble for me to spend on one card hoping to get a good card.

I agree, too big of a risk for me as well. The percentage of cards making their money back or more is small compared to those that are losing the buyers money.