My 2 cases of Heroes arrived today and...

[mwheeler27]

...I have only opened the first 2 boxes of the first case. I plan on keeping the second case sealed for a long time if I can.

My first box yielded a Nathan Petrelli Auto
My second box yielded a Mohinder Suresh Auto

I would like to hear from you guys what you would do next. Be honest:

1) Would you continue to open the other 6 boxes hoping for some sort of mistaken "hot box"?

2) Stop and sell off the remaining 6 boxes?

3) Open the rest because that's what you set out to do in the first place and hope for some good sketches?

4) Something else or for some other reason not mentioned above.

Just curious to hear what you guys would do.

Thanks,

Matt

[anythingu]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

...I have only opened the first 2 boxes of the first case. I plan on keeping the second case sealed for a long time if I can.

My first box yielded a Nathan Petrelli Auto
My second box yielded a Mohinder Suresh Auto

I would like to hear from you guys what you would do next. Be honest:

1) Would you continue to open the other 6 boxes hoping for some sort of mistaken "hot box"?

2) Stop and sell off the remaining 6 boxes?

3) Open the rest because that's what you set out to do in the first place and hope for some good sketches?

4) Something else or for some other reason not mentioned above.

Just curious to hear what you guys would do.

Thanks,

Matt

I'd keep opening until I hit the sketch.....then have the moral debate with myself at that point. (and for those who can't tell, I'm kidding. I'd bust them all because I'm a junkie. Would not sell the sealed boxes because I don't believe in selling boxes from a "cherry picked" case).

I think Matt's already made up his mind based on other posts that he has made

Lawrence

[davebo]

Matt -
I think you are opening yourself up to criticism here so be ready. People tend to frown upon someone who cracks a case, gets the "hits" and sell the rest without telling the box buyers that the autos were already pulled. I don't think it is a big deal because there are still sketches and who knows, maybe a 3rd auto. But I just think that will be the feedback you get.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by davebo

Matt -
I think you are opening yourself up to criticism here so be ready. People tend to frown upon someone who cracks a case, gets the "hits" and sell the rest without telling the box buyers that the autos were already pulled. I don't think it is a big deal because there are still sketches and who knows, maybe a 3rd auto. But I just think that will be the feedback you get.

That's exactly why I asked. I want to see what people say. I know what I'm going to do. I think a lot, if not most, of you know what I'm going to do as well.

[Cubfan86]

I think with this product the odds mean nothing. I do not see what selling the other boxes would hurt. I opened 3 cases and in one case pulled 0 Autos and 2 sketch cards. Another had 2 Auto and 2 sketch cards. I have also seen cases busted with a combo of 6 Auto/Sketch cards.
There is no TRUE case hit. In some cases you are lucky that the hit is not done by your wife with a hammer. This was a sure fire winner before release but I think people are started to find out that you can lose just as much with this product as any other.

[Tim]

We had this debate a year or so ago on the old board. If you sell sealed boxes on ebay (talking sports boxes -- let's use something with a case hit in it like Legendary Cuts baseball), the box prices are ALREADY DEPRESSED as buyers assume the boxes are cherry picked. That is a point rarely mentioned by some of the sanctimonious ones who like to say it's "morally wrong" to sell a sealed box from a cherry picked case.

I think you know what I would do.

[anythingu]

Originally Posted by Tim

We had this debate a year or so ago on the old board. If you sell sealed boxes on ebay (talking sports boxes -- let's use something with a case hit in it like Legendary Cuts baseball), the box prices are ALREADY DEPRESSED as buyers assume the boxes are cherry picked. That is a point rarely mentioned by some of the sanctimonious ones who like to say it's "morally wrong" to sell a sealed box from a cherry picked case.

I think you know what I would do.

That's assuming that all buyers on eBay know about sellers cherry picking their cases and then dumping dead boxes.

What about those novice collectors who have yet to become cynical of the single box sellers? Or those buyers who are buying for presents? There exists a segment of this hobby that remains uninformed to all the goings on.

This is where the morality comes in. The seller is taking advantage of these customers, depressed prices or not.

Lastly, if the buyers assume that the boxes are cherry picked, thus depressing the prices and sellers are assuming that buyers know the boxes are cherry picked, why is it that the sellers fail to mention that these are cherry picked boxes in their descriptions?

Lawrence

[Incarnadine]

I was in the same situation with my case, in my first 4 boxes I had an auto and 3 sketches and after seeing a lot of breakdowns I was about 98% sure all that was left were 4 boxes containing 4 costume cards and if I was really lucky 1 of them might be a Claire patch card but I couldn't resist the lure of unopened boxes and it turned out I did get lucky, three of the last 4 boxes did have common costume cards but the last box had a Milo autograph so it worked out. Very few cases have had less than 4 costume cards though, 1 really bad case had 8 costumes and 0 autos or sketches.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by anythingu

That's assuming that all buyers on eBay know about sellers cherry picking their cases and then dumping dead boxes.

What about those novice collectors who have yet to become cynical of the single box sellers? Or those buyers who are buying for presents? There exists a segment of this hobby that remains uninformed to all the goings on.

This is where the morality comes in. The seller is taking advantage of these customers, depressed prices or not.

Lastly, if the buyers assume that the boxes are cherry picked, thus depressing the prices and sellers are assuming that buyers know the boxes are cherry picked, why is it that the sellers fail to mention that these are cherry picked boxes in their descriptions?

Lawrence

This is going to turn into one of the many debates you have on the BMB, Lawrence, so I will not go there; it's been debated ad nauseum over and over and over again. I will only say there are TWO sides to everything, and I bet buyers who win boxes for half of what their hobby stores are selling them for are not "morally disturbed" over getting something so absurdly cheap that the seller is losing a boatload of money.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by Tim

This is going to turn into one of the many debates you have on the BMB, Lawrence, so I will not go there; it's been debated ad nauseum over and over and over again. I will only say there are TWO sides to everything, and I bet buyers who win boxes for half of what their hobby stores are selling them for are not "morally disturbed" over getting something so absurdly cheap that the seller is losing a boatload of money.

I hate when people don't shop and support locally as well, but at least the sellers know the risk.

I can see both sides for sure, but if searched packs/boxes are sold at anytime, anywhere, I believe there is a moral responsibility to ALWAYS let everyone know what has already been pulled. There will always be that unsuspecting newbie that just doesn't know better otherwise.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with selling searched product as long as there is full disclosure. If there is no full dislosure, then the seller is trying to take advantage of someone that doesn't know better. That seems very clear to me. But of course, I could be wrong.