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Old 12-13-2016, 09:34 AM   #101 (permalink)
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I'd definitely prefer to get into a group break of this than buy boxes.
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Old 12-13-2016, 12:48 PM   #102 (permalink)
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I honestly know hardly anybody breaking this. lol.
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Old 12-13-2016, 01:04 PM   #103 (permalink)
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I honestly know hardly anybody breaking this. lol.
No sketches, sticker chase autos, pass. I'm sure there's a market out there for this, but not from me. I'm not saying it's a bad product, it's just not for me. What's left? Parallels? Jyn Erso rookie cards?

I will start breaking when this hits 2015 Topps High Tek Football prices. Until then, I will cautiously be buying scrub autos on ebay.
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Old 12-13-2016, 01:07 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Very easy passs.
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Old 12-13-2016, 01:13 PM   #105 (permalink)
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I'm breaking it- probably because I'm a degenerate wax crackhead.
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There's no Sketches at all in this product?
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There's no Sketches at all in this product?
Nothing on the sell sheet about them. No artists talking about it. Nothing on blowouts case breakdown.

But at the rate Topps fills redemptions, they very well could be packed out as redemptions and you'd get them in the same amount of time ...
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I honestly know hardly anybody breaking this. lol.
I know quite a few people breaking this. Doesn't need sketches to sell it, that's not the point of this product. Many of the sketches of last year's were so-so quality anyways. Rather chase parallel rainbows, and yes I think the Jyn cards will sell well.

I'm in a break where you get a group of 4 characters per case, it'll be fun!
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Old 12-13-2016, 02:08 PM   #109 (permalink)
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This is the last Star wars product I committed to a case of with my local dealer. I went for a full case mainly on the promise of all on-card autos, now you can't even trust Topps to fulfill that. I have resolved to commit to no more than 4 boxes of any product with my dealer to satisfy my "gotta have it now" urge and to assemble a base set and most insert sets (for most products). Then I might bite on cheap cases once the price drops.

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I know quite a few people breaking this. Doesn't need sketches to sell it, that's not the point of this product. Many of the sketches of last year's were so-so quality anyways. Rather chase parallel rainbows, and yes I think the Jyn cards will sell well.

I'm in a break where you get a group of 4 characters per case, it'll be fun!
Agreed.

The biggest cards last year were the Daisy SP cards. My full case was paid for by hitting Boyega's red auto.

Very few products these days lets you pay for a full case with just one hit. I'd like to see pack wrappers to do the odds (or rather so JD can do the odds )
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Old 12-13-2016, 02:32 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Singles are hitting eBay as Hong Kong is already breaking the product. Like always.

This is an easy pass for me. Screwed over on MW2 so bad that I'll never touch another new product. The stickers here just solidify my decision.

I'm sure I'll pick up some singles as I loved the 2015 product.
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Old 12-13-2016, 03:36 PM   #112 (permalink)
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I was going to put in for a break of this and was given the ok do run up to five cases. The way it was run last year makes the most sense.
A character/hit draft with:
112 cards in the set - all base and variations
3 insert sets
12 hits per case

The price depends on how many cases are run.
Three cases = $725 * 3 = 2175/151 spots = $14.41 + paypal & shipping = $18.50/$16.50
Four cases = $725*4 = 2900/163 spots = $17.80 + paypal & shipping = $22.00/$20.00
Five cases = $725*5 = 3625/175 spots = $20.72 + paypal & shipping = $25.00/$23.00

Let me know how many cases and that is what I will do. Planning on submitting it tonight.
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Old 12-13-2016, 03:39 PM   #113 (permalink)
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Singles are hitting eBay as Hong Kong is already breaking the product. Like always.

This is an easy pass for me. Screwed over on MW2 so bad that I'll never touch another new product. The stickers here just solidify my decision.

I'm sure I'll pick up some singles as I loved the 2015 product.
Agree on all fronts. I need to find a product to be addicted to. My distributor still has Outlander boxes available. Maybe I'll try some of those.
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Old 12-13-2016, 04:10 PM   #114 (permalink)
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I was going to put in for a break of this and was given the ok do run up to five cases. The way it was run last year makes the most sense.
A character/hit draft with:
112 cards in the set - all base and variations
3 insert sets
12 hits per case

The price depends on how many cases are run.
Three cases = $725 * 3 = 2175/151 spots = $14.41 + paypal & shipping = $18.50/$16.50
Four cases = $725*4 = 2900/163 spots = $17.80 + paypal & shipping = $22.00/$20.00
Five cases = $725*5 = 3625/175 spots = $20.72 + paypal & shipping = $25.00/$23.00

Let me know how many cases and that is what I will do. Planning on submitting it tonight.
The more the merrier - 5 cases would be a blast!
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Old 12-13-2016, 04:25 PM   #115 (permalink)
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Yeah with 5 cases and that price, the worst you do is lose $10 or so, worth the risk of having a chance at a big card.

I really want to see some pack odds people!
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Old 12-13-2016, 04:37 PM   #116 (permalink)
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I really like the orange parallel for BB-8, it is very fitting obviously!
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Old 12-13-2016, 04:46 PM   #117 (permalink)
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I really like the orange parallel for BB-8, it is very fitting obviously!
Agree!
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Old 12-13-2016, 05:20 PM   #118 (permalink)
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I was going to put in for a break of this and was given the ok do run up to five cases. The way it was run last year makes the most sense.
A character/hit draft with:
112 cards in the set - all base and variations
3 insert sets
12 hits per case

The price depends on how many cases are run.
Three cases = $725 * 3 = 2175/151 spots = $14.41 + paypal & shipping = $18.50/$16.50
Four cases = $725*4 = 2900/163 spots = $17.80 + paypal & shipping = $22.00/$20.00
Five cases = $725*5 = 3625/175 spots = $20.72 + paypal & shipping = $25.00/$23.00

Let me know how many cases and that is what I will do. Planning on submitting it tonight.
Where is the 175 spots from? Is it 112 base, 41 inserts, 10 SP, and 12 hits? So the full checklist, with each card being 1 spot?

Would we be assigned the character/card/hit slot ahead of time, or would we pick them as our "pick", like a draft?

For $25 it's worth a gamble, although it could be entirely possible to not get anything.
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Old 12-13-2016, 05:20 PM   #119 (permalink)
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I like the picture they used for Rey.



Hope to see the variations pop up soon.
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Old 12-13-2016, 05:23 PM   #120 (permalink)
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I was going to put in for a break of this and was given the ok do run up to five cases. The way it was run last year makes the most sense.
A character/hit draft with:
112 cards in the set - all base and variations
3 insert sets
12 hits per case

The price depends on how many cases are run.
Three cases = $725 * 3 = 2175/151 spots = $14.41 + paypal & shipping = $18.50/$16.50
Four cases = $725*4 = 2900/163 spots = $17.80 + paypal & shipping = $22.00/$20.00
Five cases = $725*5 = 3625/175 spots = $20.72 + paypal & shipping = $25.00/$23.00

Let me know how many cases and that is what I will do. Planning on submitting it tonight.
I am down for a 5 case break, would take 5 or so spots for sure
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Where is the 175 spots from? Is it 112 base, 41 inserts, 10 SP, and 12 hits? So the full checklist, with each card being 1 spot?

Would we be assigned the character/card/hit slot ahead of time, or would we pick them as our "pick", like a draft?

For $25 it's worth a gamble, although it could be entirely possible to not get anything.
It's 112 spots for card #'s 1-112 and 3 spots for inserts which equals 115. For the 5 caser you add the 60 autos for the total number of 175 spots. If you get card #88 then you would get all cards #88 from all 5 cases. In this set-up most of the hits would be the least desirable spots.
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Old 12-13-2016, 05:41 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Of the cards on eBay so far, I haven't seen any pattern variances ... are they all the same patterns this time round? The promo material showed a Kylo Ren and an Anakin Skywalker with a different pattern / background, but that's all I've seen so far.

Is this simply the sellers waiting till they see what they have, or are the patterns much more scarce this time round? I guess we might not know for a few days.
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I was going to put in for a break of this and was given the ok do run up to five cases. The way it was run last year makes the most sense.
A character/hit draft with:
112 cards in the set - all base and variations
3 insert sets
12 hits per case

The price depends on how many cases are run.
Three cases = $725 * 3 = 2175/151 spots = $14.41 + paypal & shipping = $18.50/$16.50
Four cases = $725*4 = 2900/163 spots = $17.80 + paypal & shipping = $22.00/$20.00
Five cases = $725*5 = 3625/175 spots = $20.72 + paypal & shipping = $25.00/$23.00

Let me know how many cases and that is what I will do. Planning on submitting it tonight.
I'd be up for a few spots! Never taken part in a draft before.
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Old 12-13-2016, 05:50 PM   #124 (permalink)
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It's 112 spots for card #'s 1-112 and 3 spots for inserts which equals 115. For the 5 caser you add the 60 autos for the total number of 175 spots. If you get card #88 then you would get all cards #88 from all 5 cases. In this set-up most of the hits would be the least desirable spots.
Problem with this is that you could end up with nothing if none of your base is pulled as each case will most definitely have less than 84 base cards (since each box contains an auto and there will likely be an insert as well or at least some boxes will contain inserts). But lets just say that each box contains an insert as well so that leaves 72 base cards per case. Over 5 cases that's only 360 base cards. Perfect collation would give around 3 of each base card, but we know that there won't be perfect collation.

In addition with this method even if you get a base or two you're still potentially paying out $25 for these. This is for more than 60% of the spots. Seems pretty rough.
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Problem with this is that you could end up with nothing if none of your base is pulled as each case will most definitely have less than 84 base cards (since each box contains an auto and there will likely be an insert as well or at least some boxes will contain inserts). But lets just say that each box contains an insert as well so that leaves 72 base cards per case. Over 5 cases that's only 360 base cards. Perfect collation would give around 3 of each base card, but we know that there won't be perfect collation.

In addition with this method even if you get a base or two you're still potentially paying out $25 for these. This is for more than 60% of the spots. Seems pretty rough.

1) inserts were very tough last year. 1-3 per case, sometimes none
2) you aren't taking into account that you get ALL the base for that spot. If you hit a black 1/1, or the hardest variation, or a print proof 1/1, you get it along with any other versions of your base.

It's a group break, of course there is a chance you get nothing.
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