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Old 05-16-2017, 05:42 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Julie Dolan, voice of animated Leia on Rebels, posted a pic to twitter of her hard signed cards with the caption "50 done, 450 to go".

Soooo, animated Leia autos in Masterwork. Plenty of them.
Is it clearly MW or another set?
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Old 05-16-2017, 05:42 PM   #102 (permalink)
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That's poor. Masterworks is I reckon 720 cases if the parallels are accurate, is she nearly in every case? lol. Low cost high volume signer, that a lot of people will have already got.
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Is it clearly MW or another set?
Clearly Masterwork. Topps mentioned the set by name when they shared the post on facebook. Maybe not all 500 autographs she has to sign are for Masterwork, but the pic she posted is of all signed Masterwork cards. Maybe she just has to sign 450 stickers for other releases now.

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Old 05-16-2017, 05:52 PM   #104 (permalink)
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That's poor. Masterworks is I reckon 720 cases if the parallels are accurate, is she nearly in every case? lol. Low cost high volume signer, that a lot of people will have already got.
How would it be less than MW2 when they added 50 more base cards and those all have parallels?

If anything it's equal or higher.
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I know Stanton signed 500-600 for MW2, so yes the lower end signers you will get nearly 1 every 2 cases.

MW2 there were 1,366 cases BTW

MW 1 was 1,631

So it would be nice if MW3 was 1,200 or lower.
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Topps did make the base set bigger this time, but by 25 cards, not 50.

MW1 & MW2 - 75 card base set with 25 of those SP's

MW3 - 100 card base set with 25 of those SP's
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I know Stanton signed 500-600 for MW2, so yes the lower end signers you will get nearly 1 every 2 cases.

MW2 there were 1,366 cases BTW

MW 1 was 1,631

So it would be nice if MW3 was 1,200 or lower.
What's your guesstimate on case count for MW3?
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Topps did make the base set bigger this time, but by 25 cards, not 50.

MW1 & MW2 - 75 card base set with 25 of those SP's

MW3 - 100 card base set with 25 of those SP's
"itís a larger 100-card set this time with short-prints to be found and 72-point stock used. Parallels will be found with Blue (two per box), Green (/99), Purple (/50), Gold (/25) and 1/1 Red and printing plates. There also will be 25 short-printed character cards."

I take the words with and also to mean in addition to, not part of the 100.

Either way 25 or 50 cards extra there are blues, and then 175 color parallels and 4 plates. So that's at least 175 more mini-boxes plus the blues count per card.
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"itís a larger 100-card set this time with short-prints to be found and 72-point stock used. Parallels will be found with Blue (two per box), Green (/99), Purple (/50), Gold (/25) and 1/1 Red and printing plates. There also will be 25 short-printed character cards."

I take the words with and also to mean in addition to, not part of the 100.

Either way 25 or 50 cards extra there are blues, and then 175 color parallels and 4 plates. So that's at least 175 more mini-boxes plus the blues count per card.
If their grammar is correct, "with" should mean included in the 100, "also" should mean in addition to the 100...
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If their grammar is correct, "with" should mean included in the 100, "also" should mean in addition to the 100...


I wonder if the SPs have parallels still or not. They only mention them after the base cards...


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Old 05-17-2017, 04:35 AM   #111 (permalink)
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Sorry guys, I obviously got my parallel maths wrong with 720 cases! So is this $1600 the new price across the board? Am guessing distributors have completely sold out and are now allocated for this to have occurred so quickly?. One can only assume people are banking on a better release than M2 that was let's face it poor, and maybe some hand signed cards done at celebration.
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"itís a larger 100-card set this time with short-prints to be found and 72-point stock used. Parallels will be found with Blue (two per box), Green (/99), Purple (/50), Gold (/25) and 1/1 Red and printing plates. There also will be 25 short-printed character cards."



I take the words with and also to mean in addition to, not part of the 100.



Either way 25 or 50 cards extra there are blues, and then 175 color parallels and 4 plates. So that's at least 175 more mini-boxes plus the blues count per card.


If only 100 cards and only taking parallels into account, 175x100= 17,500 parallels that are one per mini box (not including blues, only numbered) so /4 boxes /8 boxes in a case gives at least 547 cases.

Every blue set is 100 cards so /4 and /8 again is like 3 cases for each blue made. I'd guess at least 100 copies of each blue so that's another 300 cases, minimum.

Anyone know the math for roughly how many blues total were in 2016? Was it more like 200 of each?


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I know sell sheets can easily change, but based on what we know, it says that there are 2 blue parallels per box. That would mean you get 2 #'ed parallels per box.

So 100 x 176 = 17,600 Total parallels /2 = 8,800 boxes or 1,100 cases

This is possible and would be a decent amount for them to make. Less than previous 2 releases, but that is what they needed to do.
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I know sell sheets can easily change, but based on what we know, it says that there are 2 blue parallels per box. That would mean you get 2 #'ed parallels per box.

So 100 x 176 = 17,600 Total parallels /2 = 8,800 boxes or 1,100 cases

This is possible and would be a decent amount for them to make. Less than previous 2 releases, but that is what they needed to do.
You aren't taking all the blues into account though. There's /99, /50, /25, and /1 for numbered parallels (plates would be hits). So that total is 175 copies, minimum. PLUS you have to add all the blue copies, which I assume are >100 since they're un-numbered. (unless they fall victim to print-to-order and will be rarer?) Unless you're figuring one blue parallel and one other parallel per box.

I love how they don't check their work, unless they mean 2 blues per master box and two other parallels for your 4 total?

It says in the article "four five-card packs (a mini box) with three base cards, one parallel and one hit".

Yet it contradicts itself by saying "Parallels will be found with Blue (two per box)"

I assume we'd have the same pattern of 2 base (or 1 base and 1 SP), 1 parallel, 1 insert, and 1 hit for the 5 cards.
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Varga, JD read it right. Its one parallel per mini box. That means two blues and two numbered parallels per master box. Interesting numbers but who knows if they'll follow their own sell sheet.


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If I remember right, MW is the one of the few products where printing plates don't count as hits.
Also the Blue parallels will have a print run of about 350 each, but will not be serial numbered.
Since this set is Hobby only, it will be a little easier to determine total print run.
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Printing plates were definitely a hit in mw2 at least in my experience. The gold 1/1 parallel didn't count as a hit in a box though- again just by my experience and I opened multiple cases.

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Printing plates were definitely a hit in mw2 at least in my experience. The gold 1/1 parallel didn't count as a hit in a box though- again just by my experience and I opened multiple cases.

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Ok well if you add the printing plates to the parallels or not, it still comes out to right around 1,100 cases.
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Stanton is signing for this set. It'd be nice if we got weekly updates about signers or something.




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Old 05-22-2017, 04:36 AM   #120 (permalink)
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The next one will probably be Dee Bradley Baker signing 500+ cards..


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Topps posted one of the duals: Kanan/Seventh Sister FPJ/SMG

I do like the perfect facebook comment in regards to this being 2 stickers, "these people live in the same house, right?" lmfao!
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