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Old 06-26-2012, 05:09 PM   #101 (permalink)
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no the players would be actually committing purgery which is against the law,...can we please stick with facts and not opinion..your contract with upper deck has nothing to do with autograph signers..
I said I didn't know for sure. I was throwing a scenario out there. But I'm pretty sure perjury has to do with taking an oath in a court of law.

Upper Deck (and other companies) was mentioned a few posts up. I was using an example to say that maybe you shouldn't believe everything you hear. Your own research and diligence will help you to decide what is real and what is not in your opinion, not what someone says on the back of a card.
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Old 06-26-2012, 05:10 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Don't even get me started on Upper Deck. I had my own personal "signed contracts" with them that amounted to me getting screwed out of compensation. While I'll still buy the occasional UD product, I wouldn't put too much stock into what they have to say on the backs of their cards. Not saying their products aren't authentic, but some companies have reputations that can affect all of their business.
I have heard of people getting paid in Pesos from upper deck. Seriously! I don't know how true this is, but maybe you should let them know you will accept any form of currency as long as it's worth something.

Why does upper deck keep getting away with this crap?
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Old 06-26-2012, 05:13 PM   #103 (permalink)
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no the players would be actually committing purgery which is against the law,...can we please stick with facts and not opinion..your contract with upper deck has nothing to do with autograph signers..
Speaking of "facts"...

I think counterfeiting is against the law as well. I also believe upper deck was found guilty of counterfeiting over a half million cards.

I wonder, do people still believe them when they "guarantee" autograph authenticity of any kind?
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Upper deck has had lots of signed contracts in the past. That didn't keep them from getting sued from time to time and LOSING because those contracts didn't keep them from wrong doings.

I'm still confused why you think a contract guarantees an auto to be real.
Did I say I think it guarantees it to be real? I am saying that is why I trust a licensed company over someones opinion. I can actually go to court. Do you know any authenticators?
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Did I say I think it guarantees it to be real? I am saying that is why I trust a licensed company over someones opinion. I can actually go to court. Do you know any authenticators?
But why? What does a licensed company have that makes you feel more comfortable with autographed cards?

Upper deck has been caught a heck of a lot more times with fake autos than Famous Fabrics has.

What does it matter if I know any authenticators or not?
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Old 06-26-2012, 05:58 PM   #106 (permalink)
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no the players would be actually committing purgery which is against the law,...can we please stick with facts and not opinion..your contract with upper deck has nothing to do with autograph signers..
Ummmm...no, it would be a breach of contract. Purgery is when you knowingly tell flasehoods under oath.

There are MANY instances where stickers/cards are known to be autopenned and for each case, there are likely 5 more that we don't know about.
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ok well i will be looking for the tupac sketch and Notorious B.I.G sketch
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I talked to someone who has a cut signature in this set and they have no idea they are in it.lol can they sue?
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I talked to someone who has a cut signature in this set and they have no idea they are in it.lol can they sue?
Anyone can sue for any reason. The question is...can they win? The answer would be...not likely.
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I talked to someone who has a cut signature in this set and they have no idea they are in it.lol can they sue?
no...the property is not theirs
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I found this entire thread both informative and amusing. Personally, I like all three types of autograph cards (on-card, sticker and cut), and am anticipating my first Famous Fabrics purchase in the mail tomorrow (Hooray for Hollywood). It will be the first cut in my collection, and I'm looking forward to purchasing others in the future, as the budget allows.
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no...the property is not theirs
Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but I don't understand your logic regarding "the property."
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Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but I don't understand your logic regarding "the property."
I think what he's saying is that if I purchased a cut autograph of someone, that autograph is now mine. I can do with it as I please. If I want, I can make a cut autograph 1/1 card and sell it for a profit without owing any royalties to the original signer.
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I think what he's saying is that if I purchased a cut autograph of someone, that autograph is now mine. I can do with it as I please. If I want, I can make a cut autograph 1/1 card and sell it for a profit without owing any royalties to the original signer.
yes you understood me correctly
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Good discussion going on regarding known Charlton Heston secretarial autographs and one was pulled from FF Hooray from Hollywood...

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Good discussion going on regarding known Charlton Heston secretarial autographs and one was pulled from FF Hooray from Hollywood...

9 Boxes of FF Music Music Music , 4 Boxes of Pop Century and 1 Boxes of 2011 Hollywoo
Some would call it a discussion.
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Why are so many of the autographs cut off by the frame?

I thought FF prided themselves on including the entire autograph in a cut card.
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i told yall...ha
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i told yall...ha
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This is what I was worried about and was called a troll because of my concerns. Now you know my earlier concerns about this product a genuine. I hope it turns out to be real but it looks like they will have to prove it.
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This is what I was worried about and was called a troll because of my concerns. Now you know my earlier concerns about this product a genuine. I hope it turns out to be real but it looks like they will have to prove it.
One card out of 1600? Upper Deck KNOWINGLY produced and sold millions of fake cards. No apology and a token punishment. Price will fix this with typical class.
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One card out of 1600? Upper Deck KNOWINGLY produced and sold millions of fake cards. No apology and a token punishment. Price will fix this with typical class.
I wouldn't count on it just being 1...if they let this one through...how many more did they let through?
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One card out of 1600? Upper Deck KNOWINGLY produced and sold millions of fake cards. No apology and a token punishment. Price will fix this with typical class.
one too many?

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I wouldn't count on it just being 1...if they let this one through...how many more did they let through?
good job John91c .
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