When is a deal a deal?

joe31 · 06-16-2012, 09:29 PM

A guy pmed me asking if I still had a lot I had posted in my thread, I replied saying I did and asked if he wanted it. He replied sure, whats your paypal. I sent him my paypal addy(this was at night). After not receiving the paypal that night, I thought maybe he went to bed and was going to send it to me the next day. No big deal. But when I awake, I have a pm saying he may have found something else he wanted to spend his money on and may no longer be taking my lot. Is this okay? Or was it a "deal" and he backed out?

Igman7 · 06-16-2012, 10:02 PM

As much as one might like to think otherwise, a deal aint a deal until the seller has been paid the agreed upon price. While I will let others who may inquire about a card or lot know that it is "on hold" pending payment, it is still in play until payment is made. That being said, there are always exceptions for folks that you have a history with (hell, I have waiting weeks for payment on rare occasions but will honor it because the buyer had bought thousands of dollars from me over the years).

Tim · 06-16-2012, 10:48 PM

the moment he said "sure, what's your paypal," he verbally gave his word and commitment. If it were me, I'd never deal with him again because he backed off his word.

pmannings#1fan · 06-16-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim

the moment he said "sure, what's your paypal," he verbally gave his word and commitment. If it were me, I'd never deal with him again because he backed off his word.

Agreed. If the buyer asked for your PP addy then the deal is pretty much sealed & payment expected within the next 12-24 hours unless otherwise agreed upon.

THE_BEAST · 06-16-2012, 11:19 PM

Curious to find out what the lot consisted of?

joe31 · 06-16-2012, 11:21 PM

It was a deal over $100...

Cujobyte · 06-17-2012, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim

the moment he said "sure, what's your paypal," he verbally gave his word and commitment. If it were me, I'd never deal with him again because he backed off his word.

Even though I think it was pretty much a deal, there are always extenuating circumstances that over ride such a situation, and never to deal with that particular person again is a bit harsh.

Tim · 06-17-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cujobyte

Even though I think it was pretty much a deal, there are always extenuating circumstances that over ride such a situation, and never to deal with that particular person again is a bit harsh.

I was factoring in what he said to the OP - he flat out admitted he went elsewhere to "spend his money." That is not a valid reason nor an extenuating circumstance.

joe31 · 06-17-2012, 09:50 AM

The guy must have seen this thread. He pmed me saying he would still take it "he guesses" but now won't be able to pay for a week.

NonSportsCardForum · 06-18-2012, 06:33 AM

I tend to go with when someone gives you a verbal "yes" that they will do it, it should be good enough but that comes from someone that thinks someones word should still mean something these days.

Incarnadine · 06-18-2012, 08:34 AM

It seems pretty clear cut.
When the buyer and seller both agree on the price and payment method the deal is locked in. At this point it would be wrong for the buyer not to pay just as it would be wrong for the seller to turn around and sell to someone else.

Cujobyte · 06-18-2012, 09:05 PM

So, a similar thing has now happened to me. "Starscreams" has backed out on a Sean Bean autograph. 2 weeks ago we agreed upon a price, $130. He asks me to wait 2 weeks, which I had no problems with. Fast forward 2 weeks, and he now claims to have opened one in a box. I believe it's due to the declining price in the card. Quite honestly I'm fine keeping the card, but it's crappy to do this. Someone opened 5 cases and did not get one, yet he buys 3 boxes and gets one?? hm... Anyways I just thought I'd warn all of you what he did to me. It's bs quite honestly.

06-16-2012, 09:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
joe31 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: West Michigan Posts: 1,602 uofm3heat	When is a deal a deal? A guy pmed me asking if I still had a lot I had posted in my thread, I replied saying I did and asked if he wanted it. He replied sure, whats your paypal. I sent him my paypal addy(this was at night). After not receiving the paypal that night, I thought maybe he went to bed and was going to send it to me the next day. No big deal. But when I awake, I have a pm saying he may have found something else he wanted to spend his money on and may no longer be taking my lot. Is this okay? Or was it a "deal" and he backed out? __________________ Go Heat! Always Looking for D-Wade and LeBron.

06-16-2012, 11:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
joe31 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: West Michigan Posts: 1,602 uofm3heat	It was a deal over $100... __________________ Go Heat! Always Looking for D-Wade and LeBron.

06-17-2012, 09:50 AM	#9 (permalink)
joe31 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: West Michigan Posts: 1,602 uofm3heat	The guy must have seen this thread. He pmed me saying he would still take it "he guesses" but now won't be able to pay for a week. __________________ Go Heat! Always Looking for D-Wade and LeBron.

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06-16-2012, 10:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
Igman7 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tinley Park, IL Posts: 1,676 Igman7	As much as one might like to think otherwise, a deal aint a deal until the seller has been paid the agreed upon price. While I will let others who may inquire about a card or lot know that it is "on hold" pending payment, it is still in play until payment is made. That being said, there are always exceptions for folks that you have a history with (hell, I have waiting weeks for payment on rare occasions but will honor it because the buyer had bought thousands of dollars from me over the years).

06-16-2012, 10:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tim Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,994 snoopy351	the moment he said "sure, what's your paypal," he verbally gave his word and commitment. If it were me, I'd never deal with him again because he backed off his word.

06-16-2012, 11:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
THE_BEAST Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 572	Curious to find out what the lot consisted of?

06-18-2012, 06:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
NonSportsCardForum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Austin Tx Posts: 2,353	I tend to go with when someone gives you a verbal "yes" that they will do it, it should be good enough but that comes from someone that thinks someones word should still mean something these days.

06-18-2012, 08:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
Incarnadine Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 731	It seems pretty clear cut. When the buyer and seller both agree on the price and payment method the deal is locked in. At this point it would be wrong for the buyer not to pay just as it would be wrong for the seller to turn around and sell to someone else.

06-18-2012, 09:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
Cujobyte Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,660 Cujobyte29	So, a similar thing has now happened to me. "Starscreams" has backed out on a Sean Bean autograph. 2 weeks ago we agreed upon a price, $130. He asks me to wait 2 weeks, which I had no problems with. Fast forward 2 weeks, and he now claims to have opened one in a box. I believe it's due to the declining price in the card. Quite honestly I'm fine keeping the card, but it's crappy to do this. Someone opened 5 cases and did not get one, yet he buys 3 boxes and gets one?? hm... Anyways I just thought I'd warn all of you what he did to me. It's bs quite honestly.