Anybody else getting Cryptozoic Batman?

[justice41]

Originally Posted by The Madbacker

Is it just me or does it kinda tick you off when you see an incredible AP sketch but the pack-inserted sketches by the same artist are kinda so-so.

Not saying this is the case but I'm seeing it more and more.

For me it's a time thing.It takes me a few days to come up with an image I feel I can pull off like the batman posted. When working on 50-100-150-200 cards in 3-4 months it's all about time. How many can I get finished on time with good quality art overall, instead of one or two great cards and the rest suffering from time spent on a few. Plus the AP's take me like 16-20 hours to do. Pencils and I do a lot of sketches, about 4-5 hrs, inks, that's at least 6 hours on one card, colors, another 5-6 hours.
If you check out some of my older sets before I got on more card company sets I would get in quite a few what i would call high quality cards.
Check this old video out where I'm inking a few cards and showing off some cards from Rittenhouses release of Heroes and Villains.
Comic Artist Roy Cover Drawing Marvel Sketch Card - YouTube
check out my cards on my DA site
http://justice4one.deviantart.com/

[justice41]

Skip ahead on the vid to around 15 mins.

[monkeymcgee]

If you can be patient, I think APs are the way to go. As Roy mentioned, the artists actually get some time to spend making your commission (or whatever they wanted to put on the AP) awesome.

I've been given some details on how the sausage gets made and frankly I'm impressed that most of the packed out sketches generally turn out as nice as they do.

But the advantage to the packed out sketches is you get them quickly. For many artists, you get put on a wait list for their APs. Then it usually takes a few days to a couple of weeks to create your card. Then the approval process. I commissioned a couple Marvel Premier APs in early December and one set was just approved last week and another set still hasn't been approved yet.

[dd316]

Originally Posted by The Madbacker

Is it just me or does it kinda tick you off when you see an incredible AP sketch but the pack-inserted sketches by the same artist are kinda so-so.

Not saying this is the case but I'm seeing it more and more.

There are many times instances where artists have more time to spend on an AP vs pack-inserted sketches. We're normally scrambling to do 50-100+ cards in around 30 days (or less), then when the AP's come in, unless there's something else on our plates, we can spend more time on them.

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by dd316

There are many times instances where artists have more time to spend on an AP vs pack-inserted sketches. We're normally scrambling to do 50-100+ cards in around 30 days (or less), then when the AP's come in, unless there's something else on our plates, we can spend more time on them.

In regards to APs, I've spoke with certain artist, I won't name names, but they wanted to charge me over $300. I could have sworn I saw artists of the same caliber avertising $100 or $150 for their APs on scoundrels forums. Why the huge discrepancy? I'm not talking Acar or Glebe or any overly expensive artist mind you. No offense intended. I think at that price though, I'd much rather just buy a pack-inserted sketch that I fancy at a fraction of the cost. Know what I mean?

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by monkeymcgee

If you can be patient, I think APs are the way to go.

I agree, but at a fair price. I serious have purchased an AP that was much better quality and was half the price of another AP I purchased. So I guess it really depends on who the artist is and how serious they take a commission. I mean, by all means they should.

[dd316]

Originally Posted by Ronin

In regards to APs, I've spoke with certain artist, I won't name names, but they wanted to charge me over $300. I could have sworn I saw artists of the same caliber avertising $100 or $150 for their APs on scoundrels forums. Why the huge discrepancy? I'm not talking Acar or Glebe or any overly expensive artist mind you. No offense intended. I think at that price though, I'd much rather just buy a pack-inserted sketch that I fancy at a fraction of the cost. Know what I mean?

Everyone can choose to charge what they want for their APs. Whether they actually sell them or not is another.

[justice41]

I sell mine to move them. I could be a fool and ask a ton and sit on them for a long time, Long past shelf life. Right now I have nearly 250 AP's that I just didn't have time to do anything with, some are returns but most are blanks. If I sell them all at my price or lower i can make 15 to 20 grand. Why would I want to fleece the collectors? In my old job we made all our money drawing small houses in bunches of 20 or more even though one commercial job would bring in as much as 10 drawings. But commercial work was far and few so the small homes were our bread and buttah.

[sdoug76]

Sure I will go "duh" but who is the character on this sketch? Also any guess on artist?
Thanks!
Batman The Legend Cryptozoic Sketch | eBay

[scotthouseman]

Originally Posted by sdoug76

Sure I will go "duh" but who is the character on this sketch? Also any guess on artist?
Thanks!
Batman The Legend Cryptozoic Sketch | eBay

Pretty sure it's Flamebird:

comics flamebird - Bing Images

She was on the approved list of characters to draw. 99% sure it's her.

[monkeymcgee]

Anyone want a $65 Charles Hall?

2013 DC Comics Batman The Legend Bane Artist Sketch Card 1 1 Cryptozoic Original | eBay

[monkeymcgee]

Originally Posted by monkeymcgee

Anyone want a $65 Charles Hall?

2013 DC Comics Batman The Legend Bane Artist Sketch Card 1 1 Cryptozoic Original | eBay

LOL--I guess someone did

BTW, this seller has some great deals on Batman sketches. I picked up 2 Rare artists for $14.99/each and another Rare artist of a sought-after character for $55. I'll reveal what I got once I know they've shipped

[sdoug76]

Originally Posted by monkeymcgee

Anyone want a $65 Charles Hall?

2013 DC Comics Batman The Legend Bane Artist Sketch Card 1 1 Cryptozoic Original | eBay

Originally Posted by monkeymcgee

LOL--I guess someone did

BTW, this seller has some great deals on Batman sketches. I picked up 2 Rare artists for $14.99/each and another Rare artist of a sought-after character for $55. I'll reveal what I got once I know they've shipped

Saw that earlier, damn Hall for $65! Sadly I didnt think that Hall was Even worth $65.

I picked 1 sketch up from the seller earlier tonight.

Guess he finally gave up as his orginal starting bid prices were higher on all.
Did you snag th Nightwing b&w? I thought about it, but decided to pass.

[sdoug76]

Man Glebe Nightwing went for $125, Catwoman for $150

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by sdoug76

Man Glebe Nightwing went for $125, Catwoman for $150

how'd they look? got links?

[sdoug76]

Originally Posted by Ronin

how'd they look? got links?

2013 Batman Legends Cryptozoic Glebe Sketch 1 1 Only 50 | eBay

2013 Batman Legends Cryptozoic Catwoman Glebe Sketch 1 1 Only 50 | eBay

Guess this is why I should always send offers Even if I think the seller will not accept.

[monkeymcgee]

Ouch--that's rough

Maybe the Glebes have peaked in price. Naturally it would be after I start buying some

[t2554]

I kept saying in Madbacker's thread about the Huntress sketch that the one Glebe that sold at auction for $157 would reflect the value of all the other Glebes that were sitting there with high BIN/BO. I don't have an answer for it but sketches in this set aren't selling for much at all.

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by sdoug76

2013 Batman Legends Cryptozoic Glebe Sketch 1 1 Only 50 | eBay

2013 Batman Legends Cryptozoic Catwoman Glebe Sketch 1 1 Only 50 | eBay

Guess this is why I should always send offers Even if I think the seller will not accept.

Good point. Catwoman was definitely a steal at $150. I could see it selling at $250. Thanks for linking em!

[The Madbacker]

Originally Posted by t2554

I kept saying in Madbacker's thread about the Huntress sketch that the one Glebe that sold at auction for $157 would reflect the value of all the other Glebes that were sitting there with high BIN/BO. I don't have an answer for it but sketches in this set aren't selling for much at all.

I got $175 offline for mine.

[t2554]

Originally Posted by The Madbacker

I got $175 offline for mine.

You did better than any other Glebe from this set thus far. I know sketches in one-per-box sets don't go for as much as those in a one per case product for example, but the prices all around from this Batman set are really low. And boxes are consistently selling well on ebay.

[dd316]

Originally Posted by t2554

You did better than any other Glebe from this set thus far. I know sketches in one-per-box sets don't go for as much as those in a one per case product for example, but the prices all around from this Batman set are really low. And boxes are consistently selling well on ebay.

Batman has a big enough following that folks not necessarily chasing the sketches are probably buying this.

[Spider-Fan]

Originally Posted by dd316

Batman has a big enough following that folks not necessarily chasing the sketches are probably buying this.

Fully agree with Ted here. Also, Crypto went all out with previews... 9 cards from every artist - might be that some people are buying boxes chasing specific cards they haven't seen busted yet.

[sdoug76]

Would love to see a NEW case or 2 worth of sketches hit eBay.

Lots o' unsold repost.

[The Madbacker]

I hate to say it but it seems that WD and BBT are really the only CZE products that you can expect to make some money back on. The DC releases have been awful.