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[lucky4444]

Is there any chance that this is Rita's autograph?

here is the front of the photo

[coltsnsox07]

Hmmm, anyone know her signature? Sorry I don't.

[lucky4444]

At first i thought the photographer wrote on the back but looking at the front auto i think it could be Rita's

[eldavojohn]

From this thread I took this photo:



Hope this helps!

[lucky4444]

Yeah i saw that card in the break forum one hell of a pull!

[Igman7]

It looks to me like the front and back are signed by two different hands and the card looks signed by someone else completely.

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by Igman7

It looks to me like the front and back are signed by two different hands and the card looks signed by someone else completely.

I'm guessing the card signature is from later in life (closer to 1987) and the photograph would be from a younger (1948) Rita Hayworth. I don't know anything at all about signatures but the people that do know that stuff can still look for telltale signs that persist even through infirmities.

In the future, I think it'll become cheaper to get software that analyzes ballpoint pen (banks may already be using this) and shows things about your signature that are completely unique to you. I think this only works with ballpoint pens because of how the depressions work in the paper when pushing down on it.

[lucky4444]

thanks for the help

[Igman7]

It is entirely possible that the index card for the cut could be a hurried sig from later in life, I do not know Rita's writing style. What I can tell you is that it is fairly obvious that the writing on the back is different from the front. Every single letter in Rita is constructed differently and there are many inconsistancies in the last name as well. One of the two sigs might be real though.

[dpwoodford]

Agree the two are different, the back one looks like it might just be descriptive / labelling, whilst the front purports to be her auto. The card sig appears to have a couple of similarities (particularly the end/sign-off) and so could be an old-age sig. You might want to post it somewhere like Autograph Magazine Live where some of the authenticators / celeb auto collectors hang out for a better opinion.