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Old 03-30-2013, 09:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I know this card is highly sought after but the amount of bids is unreal. One bidder in particular is clearly shilling. Shillers should be shaved sterilized and destroyed.

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Old 03-30-2013, 09:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've never known that seller to shill...he's pretty trusted.
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Old 03-30-2013, 09:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The bidder is just doing incremental bidding--that's not shilling
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sounds like newbies who forget you don't win until the end...2+ days out from end and 115 bids? I now never place a bid until the last few seconds of auction, however as a seller, as long as they pay, gotta love bidding wars
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Old 03-30-2013, 09:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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the bidder has so many retractions
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The bidder is just doing incremental bidding--that's not shilling
Exactly this. I always find it silly for bidders to do this.
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no wonder i never saw that card.. he misspelled autograph in the title..ha
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Old 03-30-2013, 10:02 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Speaking of this set glad I picked up a Master Set for $400.
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Exactly this. I always find it silly for bidders to do this.
i think hes doing this to scare off other buyers. i guess its working
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i think hes doing this to scare off other buyers. i guess its working
Yep--there's at least on member of this site who has admitted to doing this tactic for that reason: so other bidders will think it's being shilled.

I think it's a low-down, dirty tactic and told him so.
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I've never known that seller to shill...he's pretty trusted.
I've purchased from him too, so maybe they are not in on it. This is a extremely shady tactic though IMO. People are just horrible in this modern world.
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Speaking of this set glad I picked up a Master Set for $400.
Wow, what a deal! Well done.
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Old 03-30-2013, 11:03 PM   #13 (permalink)
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That seller is very reputable. As for the buyer... interesting strategy, I guess. Personally, I would get bored really quick. I'm more of a 'here is my top number' kind of guy. Maybe sometimes I'll through in a low bid just to get the item on my 'bidding' list so it doesn't get lost on my watch list, but never more than 2 bids on an item.
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Old 03-30-2013, 11:08 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Holy cow! 9300 bids on 1100 items! Someone has to much time on their hands.

109 retractions should earn you a ban from ebay. Sellers really need to report the invalid retractions more often.
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Speaking of bidding on eBay..is there any way to prevent buyers with 0 feedback from bidding on your items?

Seems to occur quite a bit where some new member buys an item then never pays. I just sold a higher priced item at a little over $200 yesterday. Buyer has zero feedback, I sent an invoice today, still nothing..about to message.

Or if they wind up not paying, is there anything that can be done that's a little more severe than eBay just putting a non payment strike on them. They need to make it where anyone under say a feedback score of 2 is banned if they bid and don't pay on items.

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Speaking of bidding on eBay..is there any way to prevent buyers with 0 feedback from bidding on your items?
Yes. As well as limits on bids from people with certain number of non-paying auctions and some other restrictions.
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why would ebay allow so many bid retractions

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Yes. As well as limits on bids from people with certain number of non-paying auctions and some other restrictions.
Only accessible through computer right? I don't think I can access it through the app
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why would ebay allow so many bid retractions

because it is still a very small percentage compared to the total amount of bids and Ebay has said they go more my percentage of bid rather than total amount of retractions
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why would ebay allow so many bid retractions
They either don't know or don't care. eBay security is a joke. I wish there was a way to see the user name. I want to block that bidder very badly.
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There is no way to block 0 feedback bidders other than cancelling their bids. You can only block those with -1 feedback or less.
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Old 03-31-2013, 12:32 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Exactly this. I always find it silly for bidders to do this.

for a lot of people that is the only way that is available if bidding by phone. I know I've had to do that when I've been away from a computer. Had to bid 15 times and the total amount was around $20 for the card
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for a lot of people that is the only way that is available if bidding by phone. I know I've had to do that when I've been away from a computer. Had to bid 15 times and the total amount was around $20 for the card
I'm sorry, but that person should be banned from eBay. If they are only able to make bids from a phone then wtf are they bidding on a higher end card for? Maybe spend the money on a tablet or computer. I understand a few bids, but this person is clearly trying to be uber shady.
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They either don't know or don't care. eBay security is a joke. I wish there was a way to see the user name. I want to block that bidder very badly.
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This bidder has won a few of my items (mostly Benchwarmer), and is actually winning a bulk of my current listings. Has always paid, granted he generally waits until the last minute to pay.

Pretty much any 1/1 Benchwarmer that has gone for over $150...this guy has won, so all those Holiday BW 1/1's that were pushing the 400-500 range, were won by this fellow...

Seems like a legit buyer, as least from my end, as he always pays me and I've never had him retract any bids.
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This bidder has won a few of my items (mostly Benchwarmer), and is actually winning a bulk of my current listings. Has always paid, granted he generally waits until the last minute to pay.

Pretty much any 1/1 Benchwarmer that has gone for over $150...this guy has won, so all those Holiday BW 1/1's that were pushing the 400-500 range, were won by this fellow...

Seems like a legit buyer, as least from my end, as he always pays me and I've never had him retract any bids.
Wow, after looking at your auctions. He's doing it to you too. I don't care if he's a big buyer, it doesn't excuse it. What he's doing is morally questionable at best. Big shocker he super collects the soft core cards. This guy clearly does it to eliminate competition. He needs to be banned.


Thank you so much Mystafet for the name. You just earned free shipping if you win any of my listings.

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