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Old 03-31-2014, 03:30 PM   #151 (permalink)
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I was watching that Iron man by Cheung. I was wondering if it would get near $100. It's good for the collectors who want a Cheung, but then again you're not getting what has made his cards special (details) in the past.
Seems like Cheung's Marvel NOW! sketch cards have a little more detail and color and with that a little higher prices.


When compared to his cards from Thor 2, the lack of details appears to translate into a little lower prices.


Must be a thread topic in there somewhere

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Old 03-31-2014, 03:58 PM   #152 (permalink)
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Oh yeah Detail can equate to more value but only if the detail makes sense. Detail for details sake can make a nice piece muddy. But detail does add value to some.
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Old 03-31-2014, 09:58 PM   #153 (permalink)
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Oh yeah Detail can equate to more value but only if the detail makes sense. Detail for details sake can make a nice piece muddy. But detail does add value to some.
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Good point

Here's a couple fairly recent auctions of Jim Cheung's sketch cards from 2010 Iron Man 2 and one from the first Captain America series in 2011. Just seems like his cards from earlier sets weren't as "loose" as the ones in the Thor 2 set. I wish I would have tried to win that $54 Iron Man sketch card since it seems like a pretty good deal now.

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Old 03-31-2014, 10:11 PM   #154 (permalink)
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Yeah... I actually like the $54 IM much better than the $150 one you posted right beside it... Someone got a great deal on that one!
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Old 04-01-2014, 01:07 AM   #155 (permalink)
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Couple of different things in play here. On the earlier sets, Cheung only did 25 cards per set, and only 1 or 2 sets came out a year. In the past year, there have been 4 sets, and Cheung did at least 25 cards in each set (and based on the number of sketches seen, maybe more like 50 or 100 on some of the sets). More sketches = lower prices. Also, to do more sketches, it seems like the sketches were a little more hurried and a little less detailed.

The other thing to look at is how these cards were sold. Notice that almost all of the ones that sold for around $50 or less were auctions that started at $0.99. All of the ones that sold for $100 or more were BIN's or auctions that started with a much higher starting bid. So how you sell can make a big difference. I'll mention that I sold one of these cards, do you think I got $50 or $150 for mine?
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Old 08-12-2014, 06:49 PM   #156 (permalink)
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Has anyone else noticed that some highly valued artists' sketch cards (based on eBay completed sales) have really gone down in value the last couple of months?

I haven't paid a whole of attention lately since I haven't had the cash to chase the big dogs, but a quick glance today at recent sales for Charles Hall, the Glebes, and Katie Cook made me go

I've seen some of the cards from my infamous "baller lot" go shockingly low.

Is this a seasonal-type thing or are we seeing a value decline in the upper echelons?

Anyone taking advantage of the savings?
Going back to the original post, I noticed that there were 5 completed auctions by the Glebe's (3) and Hall (2) of their pack-pulled sketch cards were among the 12 higher priced "modern" Marvel sketch cards over the last 4 months. I didn't look at BIN or BO auctions though (too difficult to put in order in a timely manner ... maybe there's more of those artists in those formats).

Are these prices lower, higher or about the same from a year or two ago for their work? Also, I found it interesting that 6 of the 12 Marvel sketch cards were from 2013 & 2014 sets.



2008 Women of Marvel
Nar
Elektra
$410
7.15.14

2014 Marvel 75th Anniversary
Martineck
X-Men #135 Cover - Dark Phoenix
$370.55
8.6.14

2009 Spider-Man Archives
Romita
Spider-Man
$343.88
5.16.14

2013 Fleer Retro Marvel
Tan
Galactus
$315
8.11.14

2010 Marvel 70th Anniversary
Hall
Hulk
$288.83
8.9.14

2014 Marvel 75th Anniversary
Matt Glebe
Spider-Man
$284
5.14.14

2013 Fleer Retro Marvel
Tan
Daken
$265
8.1.14

2014 Marvel Universe
Wolverine
Barbosa
$250
5.22.14

2011 Avengers: Kree-Skrull War
Wolverine
Acar
$234.13
6.1.14

2012 Marvel Beginnings 2
Deadpool
Mick & Matt Glebe
$225.67
6.12.14

2010 Marvel Heroes & Villains
Red Hulk & She-Hulk
Hall
$224.95
8.1.15

2014 Marvel Universe
Mick Glebe
$222.50
5.22.14
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I think the concern/query was more because those same artists had cards selling in the $75-$125 range, which was unheard of a couple years ago. Typical over-saturation.
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There are way too many variables to pull that small of a sample, let alone not pull BIN/BO on those artists. You've got: people looking for certain artists to finish master sets, people who only collect certain artists in certain sets, people trying to get a top quality sketch from a product that has a large percentage of lower quality work, sketches of hugely popular characters vs. a lot of work with lesser collected characters, etc.
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I think the concern/query was more because those same artists had cards selling in the $75-$125 range, which was unheard of a couple years ago. Typical over-saturation.
Yeah, remember just about all of their cards were strong sellers in their first few releases. Then in the more recent sets they started to dip under $100 here and there. I went back and looked for completed auctions for the Glebe's (including BIN/BO) and did find that there were a few that sold for under $100 recently, but they still have some good sellers in there, too. I guess the so-so characters are still in that lower range, but the popular characters have rebounded closer to their "old time" higher prices.





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You have to understand when I started this, these artists were beginning to sell at levels that had not been seen at that point. Several more releases down the road, the prices aren't that unusual. Anything the Glebes did was at least $250 there for a while when I was first buying sketches.
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I looked up those Glebe Best Offers and here's the final prices:

Goblin - $300
Deadpool - $250
Sgt Fury - $145
Sgt. Fury incentive - $115
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I think the heading of this thread could be changed to Decline in Sketch Card Values as it is an across the board phenomena tied to the oversaturation of sketches that appears to pop up in every set's dedicated thread. There are always exceptions, but by and large your average sketch nets less than it would in the late '00's (not sure how best to abbreviate that decade lol).
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Old 08-13-2014, 11:46 AM   #163 (permalink)
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Their better cards never really dropped on value. In my opinion, due to the amount of cards available the less desirable cards became accessable to a lower value tier. Simple supply and demand. Nothing more.
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