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Old 04-22-2013, 01:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Best Long Term Storage for Sketch cards?

Hi everyone, I recently have really gotten into sketch cards and have a nice collection going. What is the best way to store these? With all the inks, paints, etc I want to make sure they don't fade or stick to holders.

Pages? Sleeves with toploaders? Magnetic one touch holders?

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Old 04-22-2013, 01:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't know what the "best" answer is, but I have my standard sized cards in sleeves and in a nice binder (this one).

My larger cards (like the RA Artist Proofs) are in a standard binder unsleeved.

And then there's my SPACE sketches which are in the magnetic cases they came in (with one exception where the seller didn't send it in the factory magnetic case )

EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm not mad at the seller--just annoyed that my OCD storage plan is disrupted at the moment
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Iím going to go with mylar sleeves and top loaders for most. The sleeves arenít cheap, but mylar is widely used by museums (and comic collectors) for preservation.

As for the cards done in oil = thick one-touch holders that donít touch the face of the card.
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I don't know what the "best" answer is, but I have my standard sized cards in sleeves and in a nice binder (this one).

My larger cards (like the RA Artist Proofs) are in a standard binder unsleeved.

And then there's my SPACE sketches which are in the magnetic cases they came in (with one exception where the seller didn't send it in the factory magnetic case )
They make a postcard sized toploader that I use when I send my RA AP's out. Think of the medium that the artists used when thinking of what to put them in. Acrylic paint is a kinda plastic so it can, if painted on thick, stick to any surface touching it when it warms up. Oils will stick to anything even a sleeve so space needs to be around them. I recommend buying the screw downs and using a tool to cut down the space a bit more kinda like a drill press or maybe going to a plastics manufacturer and seeing if you can get something like that done. That would work for cards like Viceroy and the MP cards. You know a router could do the job quite well.

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I don't know what the "best" answer is, but I have my standard sized cards in sleeves and in a nice binder (this one).

My larger cards (like the RA Artist Proofs) are in a standard binder unsleeved.

And then there's my SPACE sketches which are in the magnetic cases they came in (with one exception where the seller didn't send it in the factory magnetic case )
Not sure about the seller you mention, but out of my case, one of the sketches was in a penny sleeve and not a magnetic case as the rest. I mentioned this in my sale thread as especially interesting because when I tried to put it in a case from one of the other sketches, it kept popping the lid open.
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Not sure about the seller you mention, but out of my case, one of the sketches was in a penny sleeve and not a magnetic case as the rest. I mentioned this in my sale thread as especially interesting because when I tried to put it in a case from one of the other sketches, it kept popping the lid open.
Maybe the seller got it that way, but the card seems pretty standard to me (for that set). It's just annoying to have 38 cards from this set stored one way and then one in a toploader (until I get a mag for it). The seller did say it would be shipped in a toploader, so I only have myself to blame--I'm not mad at the seller (should have made that clear).

I realize it's a small complaint in the grand scheme of things.
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Maybe the seller got it that way, but the card seems pretty standard to me (for that set). It's just annoying to have 38 cards from this set stored one way and then one in a toploader (until I get a mag for it). The seller did say it would be shipped in a toploader, so I only have myself to blame--I'm not mad at the seller (should have made that clear).

I realize it's a small complaint in the grand scheme of things.
Some sellers were afraid to ship out in the one-touches. I got a bunch that were placed in a thick top loader instead. I switched most of the Viceroy supplied 75pt one-touch holders out with 100pt ones, so I didnít care either way.
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I think the best way for the longevity of the card would be to store them in screwdowns that have the corners cut out and place them in an opaque container stored in a cool dark place. For painted cards, I'd use an extra thick (50pt+) toploader to prevent the painted surface from sticking to the plastic. For pencil/ink/markers a standard thickness screwdown should be fine. NOTE: Anything that claims UV protection will not prevent your art from fading, it will only slow it down.

Personally, I store most of my cards in toploaders in binder pages. Anything on display is in a screwdown or frame with some UV protection and is stored out of direct sunlight from any window.
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I like it when the sketch cards are graded in the BGS Beckett Grading Services slabs, since it's encased and is in nice presentation cases.

It's authenticated, 'tho I'm not sure how reliable BGS is in detecting any actual fraud in the rendering or autographs of licensed cards (i.e. some artists are given "artist proof" blanks by the card companies and subsequently draw on ''em so are not distributed in packs, so from an authenticity standpoint, anything can possibly happen to those I guess)

I think the nature of a sketch card, being handled by an artist, who draws on the card probably places less importance on the grading of the edges, surface, corners and centering, as opposed to the quality of the rendering.

I think the encasing looks nice 'tho, and often identifies the artist and card release on the placard label too.
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I put my favorites personal favorite cards (based on art quality/subject, not necessarily value) in One-Touches and store them in vault boxes.

The rest I put in pennysleeves and a toploader that is one size too big (usually in a 55pt or 75pt) and keep them in collector 'shoeboxes.'

My top 2 or 3 I keep in One-Touches and have them displayed on my art desk on those little acrylic 'easels' UltraPro sells.

I personally feel grading art/sketch cards is pointless for the reason Stat Monsters mentioned. The artist handled that card while creating that art piece... if a corner gets dinged or a back gets scuffed in the process, who cares - that's the nature of art. The 'value' of a sketch/art card should rarely be determined by its condition.
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I think the best way for the longevity of the card would be to store them in screwdowns that have the corners cut out and place them in an opaque container stored in a cool dark place. For painted cards, I'd use an extra thick (50pt+) toploader to prevent the painted surface from sticking to the plastic. For pencil/ink/markers a standard thickness screwdown should be fine. NOTE: Anything that claims UV protection will not prevent your art from fading, it will only slow it down.

Personally, I store most of my cards in toploaders in binder pages. Anything on display is in a screwdown or frame with some UV protection and is stored out of direct sunlight from any window.
Where did you find those binder pages that fit the top loaders, that's pretty cool. Does Ultra Pro make those? I've been looking for a way better display all my cards in top loaders and that would be a great way to do it. Thanks for sharing!
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I make them. I was tired of not being able to find an appropriate solution. There is a binder available (you can buy it from Blowout) that fits toploaders, but it isn't a standard size so I didn't find it to be acceptable.

I've offered them for sale, but they are time consuming to make so I don't offer them very cheap. There hasn't been much interest.
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are 35's too tight for sketch cards?
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are 35's too tight for sketch cards?
35 pt holders? it depends on the thickness of a card. should be fine for a standard sketch. might be tight for something thicker, like marvel premier
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I make them. I was tired of not being able to find an appropriate solution. There is a binder available (you can buy it from Blowout) that fits toploaders, but it isn't a standard size so I didn't find it to be acceptable.

I've offered them for sale, but they are time consuming to make so I don't offer them very cheap. There hasn't been much interest.
What do you make?
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I was making regular size binder pages that fit six top-loaders. I've stopped making them since this was posted though, because I found something I like better that doesn't require me to make anything.
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I was making regular size binder pages that fit six top-loaders. I've stopped making them since this was posted though, because I found something I like better that doesn't require me to make anything.
My friend and I are looking for binder pages that fit top loaders, as both of our collections are currently in top loaders in a box, but you as you know that doesn't display well.

What is that something better than you found? Can you please provide a link, picture, information, etc. Thank you!
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My friend and I are looking for binder pages that fit top loaders, as both of our collections are currently in top loaders in a box, but you as you know that doesn't display well.

What is that something better than you found? Can you please provide a link, picture, information, etc. Thank you!

I use a toploader binder, holds 6 toploaders to a page, works great

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My issue with those, besides being expensive, is that they don't fit nicely with all of my other trading cards in standard size binders. Anyway...

I was making these 6 card pages to fit cards in toploaders


But I quite that and just moved to using these 4 card pages


If you put your cards inside of an "Ultra-Pro Graded Card Submission Semi-Rigid Card Holder" and then place that into an "Ultra-Pro Graded Card Sleeve" it will fit perfectly into "BCW 4 Pocket" pages. The 4 pocket pages Ultra-Pro makes are a little tight and cause the bag to wrinkle.

Anyway... That is my secret. A binder, a box of 100 pages, and a box of 200 sleeves, 2 packs of 100 sleeves and 2 packs of penny sleeves will run you under $50.
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I use a toploader binder, holds 6 toploaders to a page, works great

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One thing to consider with the toploader binder is that it gets really heavy. That's why I stopped using it. Now I just use the Pro binders w premium penny sleeves as mentioned above. I like the side insertion of the Probinders so cards don't slide much.
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Agree with Thuy....... But I don't pick up my binder much.

Prefer just to go to sketchcollectors and look from there.
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I was making regular size binder pages that fit six top-loaders. I've stopped making them since this was posted though, because I found something I like better that doesn't require me to make anything.
Oh I like the 6 pocket pages they look cool. How'd you make your own?
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Interesting......
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