Don't Send or Accept Gift Payments Anymore

avjp87 · 04-19-2011, 04:21 PM

For obvious reasons, no paypal protection.

But now, even more, Paypal are cracking down. I got an e-mail the other day saying they removed the Gift option and Payment owed from my account. And if i attempt to send as gift or receive as gift anymore, they will shut down my account.

Just a word of caution to you guys to stop doing it or you'll be screwed.

friarbolt · 04-19-2011, 04:24 PM

I was shocked they even allowed all those gifts to begin with. Out of curiosity how much gift payment activity did you have going? I'm wondering what level of activity it takes for them to crack down.

avjp87 · 04-19-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by friarbolt

I was shocked they even allowed all those gifts to begin with. Out of curiosity how much gift payment activity did you have going? I'm wondering what level of activity it takes for them to crack down.

I was doing it a lot last year but then switched to goods, then people would send as gift every few times without asking so that did me in i guess.

fitch123 · 04-19-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by avjp87

For obvious reasons, no paypal protection.

But now, even more, Paypal are cracking down. I got an e-mail the other day saying they removed the Gift option and Payment owed from my account. And if i attempt to send as gift or receive as gift anymore, they will shut down my account.

Just a word of caution to you guys to stop doing it or you'll be screwed.

Wow. Thanks for the heads-up.

ManInTheMirror · 04-19-2011, 05:03 PM

Thank you Anthony, more people need to become aware of this situation.

pmannings#1fan · 04-19-2011, 05:24 PM

Thanks avj for the warning. Does this go for familys sending money to their children for school or monetary gifts to other loved ones as well? I assume so right. The damn monopaly that ebay/paypal has become is sickening to all & I'm sure there'll be another brain who comes up with a better, cheaper solution or so we all hope!!

avjp87 · 04-19-2011, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pmannings#1fan

Thanks avj for the warning. Does this go for familys sending money to their children for school or monetary gifts to other loved ones as well? I assume so right. The damn monopaly that ebay/paypal has become is sickening to all & I'm sure there'll be another brain who comes up with a better, cheaper solution or so we all hope!!

Don't know about that, but i'm sure. They just want their fees.

sucram · 04-19-2011, 05:26 PM

When you send as gift say something in the comment box like HAPPY BIRTHDAY! Or thank you UNLCE... Somehting in that manor and you will be fine... Now as for people hosting multiple group breaks I think you are taking a risk receiving all those gifts

avjp87 · 04-19-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sucram

When you send as gift say something in the comment box like HAPPY BIRTHDAY! Or thank you UNLCE... Somehting in that manor and you will be fine... Now as for people hosting multiple group breaks I think you are taking a risk receiving all those gifts

No, that's what i would do. They caught on.

sucram · 04-19-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by avjp87

No, that's what i would do. They caught on.

Hmmm I have never had a problem. How many would you say you send a month? over one hundred?

pmannings#1fan · 04-19-2011, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by avjp87

Don't know about that, but i'm sure. They just want their fees.

No doubt those b@stards lol & today the combined fees on ebay went into affect, geeshhh. They suck lol

ManInTheMirror · 04-19-2011, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sucram

Hmmm I have never had a problem. How many would you say you send a month? over one hundred?

It's not about how many a person sends, more about how many a person receives.

bboi30 · 04-19-2011, 07:01 PM

F@#k it im still going to send/receive them until they send me the same notice. At least I will have all the transactions prior to that.

avjp87 · 04-19-2011, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bboi30

F@#k it im still going to send/receive them until they send me the same notice. At least I will have all the transactions prior to that.

good luck, they're shutting down accounts pretty quickly now.

bboi30 · 04-19-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by avjp87

good luck, they're shutting down accounts pretty quickly now.

You know people who got shut down already?

avjp87 · 04-19-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bboi30

You know people who got shut down already?

yeah i do, i didn't take the e-mail too seriously until i found out people i knew get their account shut down or suspended.

pmannings#1fan · 04-19-2011, 07:26 PM

Goods is the best way to now after what happened with a couple people on here. I will always use Goods just to cover my a$$ from everyone lol..

bboi30 · 04-19-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pmannings#1fan

Goods is the best way to now after what happened with a couple people on here. I will always use Goods just to cover my a$$ from everyone lol..

well I guess im gonna start going goods all the way. Most of my deals are goods, but a few here and there are gift because they are so small. Sucks, but oh well.

Rick · 04-19-2011, 07:48 PM

I've been trying to tell you guys this for months. lol

I have a Paypal account currently frozen since December 17th for 180 days (6 months) with $10k in it. It's locked until June 17th.

I was sending a lot of Gift payments to a lot of people & I was sending Gift payments for my thread on here:
http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/n...s-etc-etc.html

They sent me an email saying there was suspicious activity & they needed my license, a bill to my confirmed address, phone bill to verify the number they had on file etc all to be faxed to them.

I figured no problem & sent them what they asked for.

They then emailed me back saying the fax wasn't clear. I went to Fedex/Kinkos & the fax was fine. So I did it again & they sent an email saying they needed a fax of my social security card & a credit card statement in my name to my confirmed address. I felt like that was way too much information to be sending to India. (And before you ask, this was not a scam, always updated IN Paypal & always verified by calling Paypal).

So finally when I told them I wasn't going to send them a copy of my SS# & credit card information, they told me they are locking my account for 180 days (6 months) & I'll have to wait until that time is up to withdraw my money or request a check.

After all this happened to me, I started doing my research & it seems Paypal shuts down a TON of accounts every day for any kind of reason.

I now never send any payments as gift or anything personal through the Paypal account that I still have running. If that account were to also be locked, my business would be devastated.

They are cracking down on money laundering and I guess with all of the gift payments being sent every which direction it's easy to launder money around.

EDIT:
I would advise to never keep any kind of substantial amount of money in the account because Paypal can lock it at any moment without a reason. Paypal is NOT a bank, they don't have the same rules as banks do. Paypal can & will lock your account for any reason they see fit. They have over 10k of mine locked up for 6 months invested in a money market account gaining THEM interest. Will I see any of that interest? NO.

I have read that at any given time Paypal has over $1 Billion dollars locked up collecting interest.

vatechhokiefan · 04-19-2011, 08:13 PM

Great advice Rick. I recall mwheeler saying the same thing a long time ago and ever since I do not keep large amounts in my account. I would be so mad about the 10K being frozen that I would search extensively for some type of alternative to Paypal.

Rick · 04-19-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by vatechhokiefan

Great advice Rick. I recall mwheeler saying the same thing a long time ago and ever since I do not keep large amounts in my account. I would be so mad about the 10K being frozen that I would search extensively for some type of alternative to Paypal.

There's no real alternative if you want to sell on eBay unfortunately, they don't have many approved payment options. Most of the other money transfer methods have been outlawed by eBay and are not recognized.

MrSnyder · 04-19-2011, 08:39 PM

I just got a similar email about a gift payment rec'd for the BGS submission. 24 hour review according to my email...

McMBAMM · 04-19-2011, 08:49 PM

Got mine locked down. Had to jump trough a ton of hoops to get it restored. BE CAREFUL with any gift or pmnt owed payments

Nicnac · 04-19-2011, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

I've been trying to tell you guys this for months. lol

I have a Paypal account currently frozen since December 17th for 180 days (6 months) with $10k in it. It's locked until June 17th..

This just confirms Paypal is another criminal bank in this criminal financial system. I can't imagine it would have been possible ten years ago for any 'bank' real or fake to seize someones money as a procedural delay for 3 months. What an abuse of a monopoly.

hairysasquatch · 04-19-2011, 09:12 PM

Wowzers! $10k for 6 months!!! Unbelievable!

04-19-2011, 04:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
avjp87 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 11,470 avjp87	Don't Send or Accept Gift Payments Anymore For obvious reasons, no paypal protection. But now, even more, Paypal are cracking down. I got an e-mail the other day saying they removed the Gift option and Payment owed from my account. And if i attempt to send as gift or receive as gift anymore, they will shut down my account. Just a word of caution to you guys to stop doing it or you'll be screwed. __________________ Photobucket- http://s730.photobucket.com/user/avjp87/profile/ Last edited by houdini; 09-24-2013 at 05:04 AM.

04-19-2011, 04:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
friarbolt Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: California Posts: 8,100 kramerattack	I was shocked they even allowed all those gifts to begin with. Out of curiosity how much gift payment activity did you have going? I'm wondering what level of activity it takes for them to crack down. __________________ Supercollecting Josh Johnson (University of San Diego, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Cincinnati Bengals, San Francisco 49ers) Collecting Chargers, Padres, Packers, Lakers, University of San Diego alumni My Bucket, always selling and trading: http://s1204.photobucket.com/user/kramerattack/library/

04-19-2011, 05:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
pmannings#1fan Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 8,557 justincaseyouwannaknow	Thanks avj for the warning. Does this go for familys sending money to their children for school or monetary gifts to other loved ones as well? I assume so right. The damn monopaly that ebay/paypal has become is sickening to all & I'm sure there'll be another brain who comes up with a better, cheaper solution or so we all hope!! __________________ Trade/Sell list http://southernsportscards.webs.com/ I DO trade by BV!!

04-19-2011, 05:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
sucram Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,898 Love 2 collect	When you send as gift say something in the comment box like HAPPY BIRTHDAY! Or thank you UNLCE... Somehting in that manor and you will be fine... Now as for people hosting multiple group breaks I think you are taking a risk receiving all those gifts __________________ Looking For All High End Robert Griffin From His Rookie Year

04-19-2011, 07:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
bboi30 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Killa Kali Posts: 5,578	F@#k it im still going to send/receive them until they send me the same notice. At least I will have all the transactions prior to that. __________________ THE OFFICIAL BLOWOUT RESIDENT SUPER COLLECTOR OF FRANK THOMAS BASE & UP. MY PC NFS/NFT: http://www.zistle.com/bboi30/collections/baseball

04-19-2011, 05:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
ManInTheMirror Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 39,898	Thank you Anthony, more people need to become aware of this situation.

04-19-2011, 07:26 PM	#17 (permalink)
pmannings#1fan Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 8,557 justincaseyouwannaknow	Goods is the best way to now after what happened with a couple people on here. I will always use Goods just to cover my a$$ from everyone lol.. __________________ Trade/Sell list http://southernsportscards.webs.com/ I DO trade by BV!!

04-19-2011, 07:48 PM	#19 (permalink)
Rick Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,547	I've been trying to tell you guys this for months. lol I have a Paypal account currently frozen since December 17th for 180 days (6 months) with $10k in it. It's locked until June 17th. I was sending a lot of Gift payments to a lot of people & I was sending Gift payments for my thread on here: http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/n...s-etc-etc.html They sent me an email saying there was suspicious activity & they needed my license, a bill to my confirmed address, phone bill to verify the number they had on file etc all to be faxed to them. I figured no problem & sent them what they asked for. They then emailed me back saying the fax wasn't clear. I went to Fedex/Kinkos & the fax was fine. So I did it again & they sent an email saying they needed a fax of my social security card & a credit card statement in my name to my confirmed address. I felt like that was way too much information to be sending to India. (And before you ask, this was not a scam, always updated IN Paypal & always verified by calling Paypal). So finally when I told them I wasn't going to send them a copy of my SS# & credit card information, they told me they are locking my account for 180 days (6 months) & I'll have to wait until that time is up to withdraw my money or request a check. After all this happened to me, I started doing my research & it seems Paypal shuts down a TON of accounts every day for any kind of reason. I now never send any payments as gift or anything personal through the Paypal account that I still have running. If that account were to also be locked, my business would be devastated. They are cracking down on money laundering and I guess with all of the gift payments being sent every which direction it's easy to launder money around. EDIT: I would advise to never keep any kind of substantial amount of money in the account because Paypal can lock it at any moment without a reason. Paypal is NOT a bank, they don't have the same rules as banks do. Paypal can & will lock your account for any reason they see fit. They have over 10k of mine locked up for 6 months invested in a money market account gaining THEM interest. Will I see any of that interest? NO. I have read that at any given time Paypal has over $1 Billion dollars locked up collecting interest. __________________ Buying ALL iPhones, iPods, iPads, Androids, Phones, ALL Electronics etc. Check my thread. http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/non-sports-singles-buy-sell-trade/99541-buying-all-iphones-blackberrys-androids-psps-etc-etc.html GET CASH FOR MORE CARDS! HUNDREDS OF SATISFIED SELLERS - ALWAYS IMMEDIATE PAYMENT! Last edited by Rick; 04-19-2011 at 07:55 PM.

04-19-2011, 08:13 PM	#20 (permalink)
vatechhokiefan Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dublin, VA Posts: 2,095 admiral50	Great advice Rick. I recall mwheeler saying the same thing a long time ago and ever since I do not keep large amounts in my account. I would be so mad about the 10K being frozen that I would search extensively for some type of alternative to Paypal. __________________ Collecting New York Yankees, Pittsburgh Steelers, and San Antonio Spurs.

04-19-2011, 08:39 PM	#22 (permalink)
MrSnyder Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: PA Posts: 5,973 mrsnyder	I just got a similar email about a gift payment rec'd for the BGS submission. 24 hour review according to my email... __________________ Collecting Ozzie Smith and Football HOF autograph articles... GO Bears (Hershey)! "You want to drag me down, as if I even care." - Breaking Benjamin

04-19-2011, 08:49 PM	#23 (permalink)
McMBAMM Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mesquite, TX Posts: 1,538	Got mine locked down. Had to jump trough a ton of hoops to get it restored. BE CAREFUL with any gift or pmnt owed payments

04-19-2011, 09:12 PM	#25 (permalink)
hairysasquatch Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sunnyvale Trailer Park, Central NY Posts: 5,285 jpar9271	Wowzers! $10k for 6 months!!! Unbelievable!

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