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Old 04-21-2009, 07:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Obama and pals about to Tax the web

The days of buying online to avoid paying sales taxes may soon be over.

What better way to help destroy our economy even further than to tax internet sales?

Really though, it's never been a matter of if.. it's always been a matter of when.
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Sucks because were used to it but it probably should be treated like a normal purchase.
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Sucks because were used to it but it probably should be treated like a normal purchase.
As people are rallying and protesting taxes, they're trying to tax us even more with a new tax on Internet Sales. Not a wise move IMHO. Then again, we really don't elect wise people do we?
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If the Government would cut our taxes correspondingly (ain't gonna happen) in another area I feel that taxing the internet is only fair. Internet is well established and does not need any additional advantage over brick and mortar retailers.
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If the Government would cut our taxes correspondingly (ain't gonna happen) in another area I feel that taxing the internet is only fair. Internet is well established and does not need any additional advantage over brick and mortar retailers.
Fair to who? Why do we need a new tax? I'm all for the Fair Tax, but this is just another grab at our wallets. Most Brick and Mortars have internet sales now, and it's not always about cheaper pricing, it's about availability, shipping and customer service. That's why I like Blowout so much. If they have to start charging me tax on each box/case I buy, my buying habits are gonna shrink. I'll still buy from here, just not nearly as much. I pay more than enough in taxes as it is. The short list of current taxes are personal property, pensions, severance, Social Security, corporation, stock transfer, tobacco, tonnage, transportation, utilities, accumulated earnings, alcoholic beverages, amusements, apparel, business, capital gains, consumption, corporate income, dividends, employment, estate, excise, franchises, fuel, furnishings, gas, sales, gift, gross receipts, health care, holding company, income, inheritance, land, license, life insurance, luxuries, motor oil, motor vehicle, occupation, operators license and the list goes on.. We're way overtaxed..
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Old 04-21-2009, 08:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=IndySportsCards;212183]As people are rallying and protesting taxes, they're trying to tax us even more with a new tax on Internet Sales. Not a wise move IMHO. Then again, we really don't elect wise people do we?[/QUOTE]

definately not when we (myself excluded) voted to put obama in office
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I am with you on the overtaxed situation. My caveat was related to a tax tradeoff that will never happen.

Starting in 2007 in Michigan you are required to report your interstate purchases over $1,000/incident and self-report your interstate purchases and pay sales tax. If you cannot prove your position you have the simple option of paying the state $44.00. Quite a screw job in my opinion.

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Fair to who? Why do we need a new tax? I'm all for the Fair Tax, but this is just another grab at our wallets. Most Brick and Mortars have internet sales now, and it's not always about cheaper pricing, it's about availability, shipping and customer service. That's why I like Blowout so much. If they have to start charging me tax on each box/case I buy, my buying habits are gonna shrink. I'll still buy from here, just not nearly as much. I pay more than enough in taxes as it is. The short list of current taxes are personal property, pensions, severance, Social Security, corporation, stock transfer, tobacco, tonnage, transportation, utilities, accumulated earnings, alcoholic beverages, amusements, apparel, business, capital gains, consumption, corporate income, dividends, employment, estate, excise, franchises, fuel, furnishings, gas, sales, gift, gross receipts, health care, holding company, income, inheritance, land, license, life insurance, luxuries, motor oil, motor vehicle, occupation, operators license and the list goes on.. We're way overtaxed..
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can everyone please stop posting and wait until BIODOLE gives his 2 cents?

Then the real discussion can begin.

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Obama will pass this, but to be honest it wouldn't matter what group was in office, this would've happened.

If they were smart they'd leave internet tax alone, bring back online gambling and tax that.

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Whoa! I am not sure I am in the mood for his drama tonight. Bio Dole would likely not disappoint if you were looking for the why it would be good for Obamerica.

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Not sure it will get through to be honest..and if it does it will be similar to what it is now, internet sales will be taxed to those living in that state. Other than that, your interferring with interstate commerce.
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How exactly is this an Obama issue? Looks like it is being introduced by a Republican and Democrat and the idea has been around well before Obama was even on the national scene. In fact previously he was against an internet sales tax.
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How exactly is this an Obama issue? Looks like it is being introduced by a Republican and Democrat and the idea has been around well before Obama was even on the national scene. In fact previously he was against an internet sales tax.
Yeah, hopefully people will understand this if it goes thru.
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Yeah, hopefully people will understand this if it goes thru.
My guess is they will not because they will not take the time to do the actual research. The title of the thread could have just as easily been - REPUBLICAN SENATOR MIKE ENZI INTRODUCING A BILL TO INCREASE TAXES.
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My guess is they will not because they will not take the time to do the actual research.
uhmmm...just when i thought we were starting to get along
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uhmmm...just when i thought we were starting to get along
We can still get along. Point is this is not an Obama issue and that is a simple fact. A Republican is co-sponsoring this bill. During the campaign both McCain and Obama came out against a internet sales tax. Just the facts.
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We can still get along. Point is this is not an Obama issue and that is a simple fact. A Republican is co-sponsoring this bill. During the campaign both McCain and Obama came out against a internet sales tax. Just the facts.
LOL...not in the mood to debate tonite...that was just a joke
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LOL...not in the mood to debate tonite...that was just a joke
I hear ya - I got a 7:30AM meeting tomorrow
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I wonder who is going to come up with a website that STRICTLY FACILITATES TRADES? No real taxable $$$ would exchange hands so no taxes? Thoughts?
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how would a site like COMC be affected?
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I agree with the person who said to legalize internet gambling and tax that. I use to play poker and casino games and would get paid overnight after a cashout. Now with the new laws it takes a while. I waited for 6 months before I finally saw my $24,000 from sportsbook.com. They use to be one of the best now they slow pay you to death.
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Legalizing/taxing internet gambling would generate so much money that is just going overseas now.

I find it funny how it's mostly off shores yet your checks come from the states. One site wouldn't pay me til I sent them confirming info, I just let it go and they ended up sending me my money anyways. They just wanted me back.
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You should be paying taxes on those purchases anyway, but nobody does unless they get caught. Same with the eBay sellers who don't report income. Maybe if they could collect these taxes, I wouldn't have to give over half my income back via taxes. LOL, like that would ever happen.

But I'll wait until biodole replies before forming a real opinion
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You should be paying taxes on those purchases anyway, but nobody does unless they get caught. Same with the eBay sellers who don't report income. Maybe if they could collect these taxes, I wouldn't have to give over half my income back via taxes. LOL, like that would ever happen.

But I'll wait until biodole replies before forming a real opinion
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