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Old 05-30-2012, 06:22 PM   #251 (permalink)
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if it's the one that looks like 1973 topps I sent the guy who brought this up a link to it via a PM.. I no longer have that PM so if they do ask them.
2012 Archives hasn't been out for very long so it shouldn't be hard for you to find it. I've searched eBay for all completed auctions for it (the product has been out for less than 30 days so every auction is there - no Terapeek needed) and the lowest completed sale I could find is $350, not $275.
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You seem to have an odd definition of what constitutes a personal attack. This is a message board. Someone disagreeing with you or saying something you don't like isn't a personal attack IMO.

BTW, can you post a link to the $275 eBay auction? I really can't seem to find that auction and it would help your claim out quite a bit IMO.
I can't find it either right now.. I just remember the discussion and I know I linked the guy to it... I may be mistaken.. and confused this with something else and showed him the $350 sale.. im not 100% now that I can't find the 275.. still offering 300 for a card with a 350 sale and a possible 30-50 item is a pretty fair offer as well.

and to me calling me cheap and insinuating I am a liar or theif is a personal attack.. maybe you have a different definition of it.
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2012 Archives hasn't been out for very long so it shouldn't be hard for you to find it. I've searched eBay for all completed auctions for it (the product has been out for less than 30 days so every auction is there - no Terapeek needed) and the lowest completed sale I could find is $350, not $275.
it's very possible I confused the numbers here (I would have to see the PM's I wrote to him to be sure)... I have done many many deals since this.. along with dealing with this thread.

If I did confuse the numbers... I apologize for that. I still feel offering 300 for a 350 sale and a 30-50 item is very fair though. 400 sv minus 15% to fee's and taxes.
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I can't find it either right now.. I just remember the discussion and I know I linked the guy to it... I may be mistaken.. and confused this with something else and showed him the $350 sale.. im not 100% now that I can't find the 275.. still offering 300 for a card with a 350 sale and a possible 30-50 item is a pretty fair offer as well.

and to me calling me cheap and insinuating I am a liar or theif is a personal attack.. maybe you have a different definition of it.
The first one sold for $350 via BIN. Several others have sold since then for more than that, including more than one for $500+. Looking at the completed auctions, the average sales price seems to be around $425-$450. Offering $300 for a card that consistently sells for $400-$500 isn't pretty fair IMO.

You can twist this however you want (because it is obvious you will). When you post that a card sold for $275 and can't prove it, that makes you look like a liar. Nobody has to call you one, but the facts speak for themselves and don't make you look very honest. When you think offering $300 for a brand new card that is easily and consistently selling for more than $100 above your offer, that looks like a lowball offer. When you feel the need to haggle over $15, it looks like that $15 is important to you. Actions usually speak louder than words. You can think and say you aren't cheap or are making pretty fair offers, but if others disagree, that's not a personal attack, it is an opinion with some facts to support it.
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try to keep in mind this guy and I had this discussion 4-5 days ago (maybe even a week?).. those sales you see now didn't exist then. The one I quoted was the only one available to my eyes at the time. I'm sure this little fact will escape you (or you will just call me a liar)... but that is the truth.

also... I am more than sure if the person has the PM's they will reflect I was honest with him and more than likely quoted the $350 sale. I said 275 from memory on here.. and if it was a mistake.. then it was my mistake. I own up to blatant F ups like that... I'm not going to defend a mental fart lol.

One more time though.. offering $300 on 400 eBay sv is extremely fair. its 25% under eBay with around a 10-15% return on investment.. it's exactly what I aim for when dealing and makes a lot more sense than if I had offered 300 with a 275 sale.

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The first one sold for $350 via BIN. Several others have sold since then for more than that, including more than one for $500+. Looking at the completed auctions, the average sales price seems to be around $425-$450. Offering $300 for a card that consistently sells for $400-$500 isn't pretty fair IMO.

You can twist this however you want (because it is obvious you will). When you post that a card sold for $275 and can't prove it, that makes you look like a liar. Nobody has to call you one, but the facts speak for themselves and don't make you look very honest. When you think offering $300 for a brand new card that is easily and consistently selling for more than $100 above your offer, that looks like a lowball offer. When you feel the need to haggle over $15, it looks like that $15 is important to you. Actions usually speak louder than words. You can think and say you aren't cheap or are making pretty fair offers, but if others disagree, that's not a personal attack, it is an opinion with some facts to support it.
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now you are taking the "im rich" road? first its dare you to say it to my face, next its i spent 3k on here.... whats next, picture of you sitting in a lambo with a supermodel? come on dude.
Whats a Lambo??????
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Whats a Lambo??????
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def not this

Dude looks like a 70's Porn star
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is that even a car? lol.. looks like an over sized power wheels lol
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def not this

Jon voigt definitely didn't own that lebaron
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try to keep in mind this guy and I had this discussion 4-5 days ago (maybe even a week?).. those sales you see now didn't exist then. The one I quoted was the only one available to my eyes at the time. I'm sure this little fact will escape you (or you will just call me a liar)... but that is the truth.

also... I am more than sure if the person has the PM's they will reflect I was honest with him and more than likely quoted the $350 sale. I said 275 from memory on here.. and if it was a mistake.. then it was my mistake. I own up to blatant F ups like that... I'm not going to defend a mental fart lol.

One more time though.. offering $300 on 400 eBay sv is extremely fair. its 25% under eBay with around a 10-15% return on investment.. it's exactly what I aim for when dealing and makes a lot more sense than if I had offered 300 with a 275 sale.

I don't have the PMs any more. There was no link provided, just a quoted sale of $275, which I didn't see any where. I replied back with links to sales of $500+ & $450. The bottom line was that you were attempting to low ball me and I declined. You offered $300 for cards that I sold for $550. That would have been a whole lot better than a 10-15% ROI.
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OP Stop responding to every post and the thread will die, you just keep it going and making things worse for yourself...as mentioned you are in the wrong. grant spelled it out what he wanted and you didn't come through. We all appreciate the other scammer thread you made but this is getting beyond comprehension now.

This might be the lambo spoken of?

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I don't have the PMs any more. There was no link provided, just a quoted sale of $275, which I didn't see any where. I replied back with links to sales of $500+ & $450. The bottom line was that you were attempting to low ball me and I declined. You offered $300 for cards that I sold for $550. That would have been a whole lot better than a 10-15% ROI.
I go by what I see at that moment.. not what "could" happen.. I'm happy for you that you got more.. I would never begrudge you that at all. I made you a fair offer based on what I saw though.. also I wouldn't quote a price that didn't exist.. if i said 275 then I found one for that.. Based on the $300 price I offered though.. it was probably a combined $400 sv in my eyes
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For those of you missing actual baseball reading this thread...

Freeman just hit a homer wearing his new glasses.

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looks like OP is cheap afterall
Damn you man. Don't you know that's LITERALLY like callin a black man the N word? So I have to assume you are a racist. Damn in now only God and abortion somehow make it into the thread the interned will end.
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Damn you man. Don't you know that's LITERALLY like callin a black man the N word? So I have to assume you are a racist. Damn in now only God and abortion somehow make it into the thread the interned will end.
i have to agree that comparison was just classic
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I can't believe this thread is still going! Good read though.....................BUMP TO THE TOP
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I don't have the PMs any more. There was no link provided, just a quoted sale of $275, which I didn't see any where. I replied back with links to sales of $500+ & $450. The bottom line was that you were attempting to low ball me and I declined. You offered $300 for cards that I sold for $550. That would have been a whole lot better than a 10-15% ROI.
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I go by what I see at that moment.. not what "could" happen.. I'm happy for you that you got more.. I would never begrudge you that at all. I made you a fair offer based on what I saw though.. also I wouldn't quote a price that didn't exist.. if i said 275 then I found one for that.. Based on the $300 price I offered though.. it was probably a combined $400 sv in my eyes
sounds to me like he responded with actual links to actual sales.............. not pretend sales that 'could have happened'
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yeah I cant believe theres over 250 posts on this thing (273 total) why dont people understand that they just need to ignore things sometimes
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