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Old 05-28-2012, 05:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So I am doing what I call "talking shop" on a deal with a member on here (I will not name them so please do not ask)...

We are within $15 and some legistics of completing a +$600 deal.. I ask him a question about shipping.. and an hour later I get a message saying "deal is dead"

I then check the thread in which we started talking and he says that all but one of the items were sold.

As the person who was talking to them first, 99% complete with a deal.. and just figuring out logistics.. what can I do about this?

I feel as the first responder (and we were actually talking for a few days before the post was made on some of the items) I was entitled to at least have the first right of refusal on the deal...

am I right for being angry here?
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Nope. Until a deal is finalized he can sell them to anyone. It sucks for you, but your sense of entitlement is wrong.
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Nope. Until a deal is finalized he can sell them to anyone. It sucks for you, but your sense of entitlement is wrong.
so if you were the first to respond.. have a deal almost complete.. you wouldn't feel a little angry they just sold the lot to someone else? Really?
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so if you were the first to respond.. have a deal almost complete.. you wouldn't feel a little angry they just sold the lot to someone else? Really?
Until the deal is fully complete, they are still his cards to do with as he pleases. He may have been working on another deal with someone and they pulled the trigger quicker? I see no need to be upset, you're not losing anything. You still have your cards.
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so if you were the first to respond.. have a deal almost complete.. you wouldn't feel a little angry they just sold the lot to someone else? Really?
A little maybe. But the seller still isn't in the wrong at all.
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Until the deal is fully complete, they are still his cards to do with as he pleases. He may have been working on another deal with someone and they pulled the trigger quicker? I see no need to be upset, you're not losing anything. You still have your cards.
no.. I just lot out on a lot of cards I was trying to buy.. you guys really don't feel he should have at least told me the offer he got from someone else? Given the first right of refusal? I do that for the first person on an item every time.. I think of it as a common curtouscy

and btw.. I was waiting for a response on to a payment method question when he wrote "deal is dead" ... waited over an hour to contact me
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I agree with others if it was only 15 bucks in question out of a 600$ deal , you should have just ate it. Not knowing if it was a obo posting with price then ya cant hate if someone had a better offer. I have sold cards to people that hit me up first either pm or post 1st is 1st. Sorry you didnt get your deal but collecting is fun dont let the $$$$ get ya twisted.
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Something like this happened to me before, but in the end I just thought to myself that maybe it was for the best that I didn't deal with the other person. All you can do is shrug it off.
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I agree with others if it was only 15 bucks in question out of a 600$ deal , you should have just ate it. Not knowing if it was a obo posting with price then ya cant hate if someone had a better offer. I have sold cards to people that hit me up first either pm or post 1st is 1st. Sorry you didnt get your deal but collecting is fun dont let the $$$$ get ya twisted.
If he had told me "its this or the deal is dead".. I would have done it.. I am not stupid enough to blow a deal like that over $15...

it's the fact that rather than tell me that.. he just sold the items to someone else.. and after a response I just got from them.. I am even more angry.

They more or less told me I should have known that was there "rock bottom price" and they considered me to have to first right of refusal.... they sold it to the other party without informing me of the second offer or giving me a right to match.
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so if you were the first to respond.. have a deal almost complete.. you wouldn't feel a little angry they just sold the lot to someone else? Really?
Not at all. These are just cards.
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Something like this happened to me before, but in the end I just thought to myself that maybe it was for the best that I didn't deal with the other person. All you can do is shrug it off.
They were items I was going to use at a trade show.. and one I might have just kept for myself because it was that nice.. I am pretty angry I didn't get one specific card in the lot.

I was even trying to buy items I didn't want just to get the deal done.
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Not at all. These are just cards.
for me it's a business though.. maybe that's why I am more angry than most would be.

I am considering leaving them poor feedback for this.. would I be out of bounds to do so?
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I understand your frustration there. But, until money is exchanged or so forth, nothing is in legal binding terms. Kinda sucks he never finised the deal with you, but were you trying to get more of a deal with the 15.00 and he didnt want to budge?
I take it, he found somone who would pay what he needed.
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So I am doing what I call "talking shop" on a deal with a member on here (I will not name them so please do not ask)...

We are within $15 and some legistics of completing a +$600 deal.. I ask him a question about shipping.. and an hour later I get a message saying "deal is dead"

I then check the thread in which we started talking and he says that all but one of the items were sold.

As the person who was talking to them first, 99% complete with a deal.. and just figuring out logistics.. what can I do about this?

I feel as the first responder (and we were actually talking for a few days before the post was made on some of the items) I was entitled to at least have the first right of refusal on the deal...

am I right for being angry here?
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Yes, you are totally right. That's what you want to hear, isn't it?

If you leave poor feedback, you should be banned.
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Would I be a little salty? Yeah, of course. But, unless it was some rare super OMGZ mojorific PC card, I'd just move on and let it go.
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I dont know that I would leave feedback espeacially bad feedback as you were mearly trying to work out a deal that just didnt happen. If it were a done deal and he backed out after posting the trade or money was exchanged, thats a different story obviously.
But, Im new on BlowoutCards and found that you dont even Post up a trade like on SCF?

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for me it's a business though.. maybe that's why I am more angry than most would be.

I am considering leaving them poor feedback for this.. would I be out of bounds to do so?
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Would I be a little salty? Yeah, of course. But, unless it was some rare super OMGZ mojorific PC card, I'd just move on and let it go.
a steve young exquisite patch auto /10 with 7 color breaks? Possibly the nicest 49ers card I have ever seen.... that's the card that has me the most irritated
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for me it's a business though.. maybe that's why I am more angry than most would be.

I am considering leaving them poor feedback for this.. would I be out of bounds to do so?
So you are angry about missed profits?

A deal is not done till it's done. Your deal was not done. Just get over it.
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I understand your frustration there. But, until money is exchanged or so forth, nothing is in legal binding terms. Kinda sucks he never finised the deal with you, but were you trying to get more of a deal with the 15.00 and he didnt want to budge?
I take it, he found somone who would pay what he needed.
Good luck in the future!
We had exchanged 1 message about the $15.. he was at 650.. I said I'd like to be at 630 but I can throw in $5 to cover shipping as well... then I got the "deal is dead" response....

does that explain my frustration a little more?
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Hey Imac, your not the same guy who jumped down my throat in my sale thread on SCF the other day cause I was trying to ask for 40.00 dlvd on my Dan Fouts Elite PTT auto /99 because it was only selling for avg. 15.00 on EBay are you?
You look familiar? And with the frustration from a deal you had, you might the the same guy? It started a big heated debate and a bunch of people jumped on taking both sides evenly. You or whoever it was, thought it was moraly wrong for me to ask more than Ebay price and you wouldnt let me get away with it while I stood my ground and felt I could ASK for as much as I wanted for MY card and noone was being forced to buy it.
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I am considering leaving them poor feedback for this.. would I be out of bounds to do so?
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I can understand the frustration but there was no deal. Just gotta take it with a grain of salt
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lol man. He was at 650 and you weren't. If frustrated with anyone it should be yourself.
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lol man. He was at 650 and you weren't. If frustrated with anyone it should be yourself.
once again.. im not sure why I am being piled on here.. but if he had told me that it was 650 or nothing.. I would have done it.. from my perspective we were still haggling and the deal was already done.. we were even talking about shipping times and delivery dates! lol
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not trying to defend the heck outta the other guy but, maybe he saw that your were negotiating with him and he might have felt that it wouldnt happen as alot of deals dont due to everyone trying to low ball other members cards just to get a RESELL value and there the only ones allowed to make money and he took another offer that was there?

I feel the same way sometimes. Get people asking about your cards, you shoot some prices and you can tell if there interested or gonna be hard to sell to. Hard to get even close to BV on these sites.
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We had exchanged 1 message about the $15.. he was at 650.. I said I'd like to be at 630 but I can throw in $5 to cover shipping as well... then I got the "deal is dead" response....

does that explain my frustration a little more?
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once again.. im not sure why I am being piled on here.. but if he had told me that it was 650 or nothing.. I would have done it.. from my perspective we were still haggling and the deal was already done.. we were even talking about shipping times and delivery dates! lol
You asked for opinions. Apparently you don't take rejection very well.
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