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Old 01-12-2008, 08:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Mini box searched - 2007 Topps Finest Football

Hey gents, new member here. I received a mini-box of 2007 Finest Football off of E-Bay. After taking it out of the shipping box I noticed that the outer shrink wrap didnt appear quite right. It looked to have been melted at the top of the box. Upon opening the box, I noticed that the first pack had a 1/4" opening at the bottom. My suspicions were really aroused at that point. I opened that one. The next pack I noticed had the same small opening in the exact same place. I then checked them all a little closer. They all had the same opening in them. You could also tell that the bottoms were re-sealed, as the coloring was off on the foil (rainbowed, didnt match the top) and the ridges were ironed flat. Also, the cards inside the same pack were different contours. I am 100% certain this box was searched. After looking at the auction again, I noticed that the seller had made it a major point that the box (and all other boxes he had) were "SEALED". After contacting him and stating that the box would be submitted to Topps for evaluation and fraud charges braught, he offered a refund and stated that he would send them to Topps (yea right) for replacement. I also noticed after further digging that he only offered mini-boxes and no full hobby's, and that he seemed to be selling an awful lot of high end singles (pulls).

I guess my question is, how do I go about this situation? Do I send them in to Topps, and how would I go about that?

Should I just get a refund and leave this seller to keep on doing this?

Please shed some light on this for me.

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Old 01-12-2008, 08:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Personally. I'd take the refund and walk away.

Not sure Topps could or would do anything about it (Secondary market doesnt really effect them). Ebay I assume would be very interested in this, however if the seller is selling lots of high end items, I suspect they'd look the other way.
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Old 01-12-2008, 08:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I would take the refund and contact eBay. I would also post the seller's eBay ID so that we can all avoid him/her.
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Old 01-12-2008, 09:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Sorry, meant to post the E-Bay Id, but forgot.

ID - waxliquidators

They have pretty good feedback with only a few negatives. Also, I cant be sure that they are the ones who searched the box. But I can guarantee that it was searched.

Should I post pics so others will have a visual clue as to what to watch out for?
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Old 01-12-2008, 09:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Take the refund - if you leave a negative you can be sure you'll get one right back so you have to decide if its worth it.
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Old 01-12-2008, 10:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Take the refund and then let eBay know what you suspect is going on. The photos and your description will hopefully alert them to, at least, watch the guys account.

Giving the negative is tough if he does refund you. There is the outside chance that they didn't do it and bought it from someone else. Slim but possible.

Posting the name here and on other boards is a nice move. We do have to help each other out about what to look for.

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Old 01-12-2008, 10:48 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I figured a refund would be the best route. There is no way to know if the seller did it themselves or purchased the product from another source. I think I will document the packaging with pics. and send the box back for a refund. I will try to get detailed pics and post them here. I am not going to leave any feedback, unles the seller does something stupid.

Thanks for the input.
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Old 01-12-2008, 11:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Did the mini box have the Topps seal on wrapping?
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Old 01-13-2008, 09:50 AM   #9 (permalink)
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It does have the topps printed outer wrap. But, on the top, the "Topps" print is shrunken because of the heat. There is also no small seam running across the top like at the bottom. Also, you can tell on the corners that it has been melted. I will get some pics up for visual.
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:24 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I was thinking about buying some The Cup tins from that seller in the past few months. I can scratch that one off my list! Pheeeew!!
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At my local target a few days ago all of the elite football packs had little slits IN them.
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I would personally give the guy a negative. Crap like that gives people who sell boxes of cards a bad name.
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At my local target a few days ago all of the elite football packs had little slits IN them.
Why are we bumping threads that are over a year old????
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I do not really see the problem with bumping an old thread as long it is a relevant thread.
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:55 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I do not really see the problem with bumping an old thread as long it is a relevant thread.
How is this relevant??? His problem has long been solved.
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Glad I wasn't the one who originally bumped this. But yeah, in some ways it is relavant to what others may end up going through someday.
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Sorry, meant to post the E-Bay Id, but forgot.

ID - waxliquidators

They have pretty good feedback with only a few negatives.
Not everybody assumes they're being sold recycled product or even contemplates that there are unscrupulous bastages and fargin iceholes out there doing stuff like that.

His ID is now blocked on my account. Thanks.
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