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Old 03-23-2014, 05:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Need to know everyone's opinion on this....would help sort a few things out.

The difference between Sports Cards, wax breaking, group breaking....razzes in which everyone wins something....

It is simply a calculated risk. Its not much of a gamble when you can buy the most spots & win the main prize.

Whereas the odds in a Vegas Slots casino or even in some scratch tickets you have more chances than losing or winning. & with Vegas Slots or lottery tickets its all or nothing. You either have your money back, more or none.

Looking at some of the mega case breakers of the products, if you buy enough sports cards you are bound to get something good.

Thinking about this a lot...Trying to hash it out in my mind. Guess it depends on how you use the hobby too and for what purpose.

Maybe some people are thinking about this too & can shed some light on me.
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Old 03-23-2014, 05:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Need to know everyone's opinion on this....would help sort a few things out.

The difference between Sports Cards, wax breaking, group breaking....razzes in which everyone wins something....

It is simply a calculated risk. Its not much of a gamble when you can buy the most spots & win the main prize.

Whereas the odds in a Vegas Slots casino or even in some scratch tickets you have more chances than losing or winning. & with Vegas Slots or lottery tickets its all or nothing. You either have your money back, more or none.

Looking at some of the mega case breakers of the products, if you buy enough sports cards you are bound to get something good.

Thinking about this a lot...Trying to hash it out in my mind. Guess it depends on how you use the hobby too and for what purpose.

Maybe some people are thinking about this too & can shed some light on me.
I mean if you're buying to sell, it's definitely gambling in a sense. Boxes/cases you're gambling hoping for a big hit to pay for it all, even singles you're gambling that a guy will pay off. Especially with prospecting.

It's not seen as gambling in the Vegas sense, and yes you do always end up with something (like a box of cards, a bunch of singles, etc.) versus nothing. But if you're in cards for profit, I definitely think there's always an aspect of gambling there. The odds are just different...a lot worse in lottery and Vegas, better in cards but at a smaller profit margin and still not always in your favor.

As far as the idea of increasing your odds if you buy more...I mean that's true to a point but there's also still a good chance you lose out. You can buy 12 cases and hit some good stuff but still look money. You can buy 11 spots in a 12 spot razz and still lose. In Vegas or the lottery playing more/bidding more means over time you have a better chance of winning...but before you do you have a better chance of just throwing lots of money away lol.
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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So is there a difference between a calculated risk & a gamble?

In the stock market there are definitely some calculated risks, sure shots & gambles.

People bet on penny stocks all the time, yet buying McDonalds is more calculated & a bit more expensive.

I still feel its about the attitude you take too. Whether or not the all-in type style, or whatever you have to spend at the time.
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So is there a difference between a calculated risk & a gamble?

In the stock market there are definitely some calculated risks, sure shots & gambles.

People bet on penny stocks all the time, yet buying McDonalds is more calculated & a bit more expensive.

I still feel its about the attitude you take too. Whether or not the all-in type style, or whatever you have to spend at the time.
Any form of risk is technically a gamble. The only difference between the various risks is the odds against and the payout for the threshold of the risk.

If you want to see it in its simplistic form, just take the words out of the process. Breaking a box of cards, a razz or even buying stocks, are all forms in which you put money up front for the possibility to losing or gaining depending on the outcome. Factor in variance of odds and calculate the impact of the gain or loss.

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I keep seeing the term "razz". Can anyone enlighten me on what this is when it comes to cards? I keep seeing it more and more so I'm curious. Any insight is appreciated.
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I keep seeing the term "razz". Can anyone enlighten me on what this is when it comes to cards? I keep seeing it more and more so I'm curious. Any insight is appreciated.
Razz is basically raffle...but they say razz because it's more secretive? I dunno haha.

But you take a card, say a chrome auto of some rookie. Put 10 spots up or $2.50 each. People buy up the raffle slots, and then the guy who owns the card randoms the people and whichever person wins gets the card. It's a good way to get cards cheap (if you win) and it's a decent way for sellers to get a little more for their card (like a $20 card could razz for $25 and whoever wins wins it for less than $20 so they're happy).

So gambling haha. But fun.

And Ben, it's all gambling. "Calculated risk" is still a gamble.
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It's all gambling. Especially box breaks and razzes where you could easily end up with nothing.
As mentioned, you can calculate your risk and push odds in your favor (counting cards in blackjack, poker, sports betting).
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Kinda curious Ben, what gotcha thinking about gambling and baseball cards?
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I've never heard of Razz or Razzes until now. I live under rocks...
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Kinda curious Ben, what gotcha thinking about gambling and baseball cards?
I used to struggle with a gambling addiction. I was wondering the difference between a gambling addiction that is under control & a gambling addiction that is out of control.

Cause the funny thing is now I don't have a problem of not joining in a group break, or not buying into card sales. I have a lot of money transferring into my bank account from ebay & I don't desire to spend it on new cards. Yet I really feel an accomplishment about it.

I feel like I've gotten something that was out of control to something that is more in control. Yet there is nothing wrong about this desire to flip cards for me. There was before.
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