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Old 01-29-2016, 08:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Of interest of Collectors...List on Post 11.

Might be a long read, but collectors need to know. A lot of big names are included. Have a read and learn.
From another forum I belong to:

the list (of criminals) is revealed - Net54baseball.com Forums

EDIT: List posted on post 11. This information needs to get out there in the community.

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Old 01-29-2016, 10:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Didn't read it all.....is this about shill bidding?
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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WOW! People go look, some serious stuff. Looks like they shilled ol' Hal Steinbrenner and Keith Olbermann out of several thousand dollars, some fella named Scott Ireland paid an extra $53,479 to win something due to it being shilled! Also, someone named Michael Wachs got took for about $40,000 in extra shilled bids to win what he wanted.
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That's intense. Some crazy #@#@#@#@.
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Old 01-30-2016, 01:15 AM   #5 (permalink)
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lol. net54 looks just like BO. They didn't even change the colors.

As for the story, that is eye opening to say the least. Yikes...
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Old 01-30-2016, 01:19 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Some high profile names on that list. Really sad to see this happening.
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Which makes me wonder about those final prices on the 52 Mantles that sold recently at auction for over $300k
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Old 01-30-2016, 08:28 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I have never trusted auction houses at all. I've only bid on a few things over the last decade - stuff I just really wanted. Curiously, I won 2 lots, both having closed extremely close to my top bid. Sorry, there's just way too many forms of bidding (phone, paper, live) for an item and way too many people involved in that process - as proven by this disaster.
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Old 01-31-2016, 05:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Also, consider how how it affects VCP. All those "record" sales.
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The dark side of the industry
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Old 01-31-2016, 05:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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To make it simple, and not be accused of increasing the traffic at another website, here is a link to the report - and the list.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3S...1RTVsbGVB/view

And here are a few names listed:

Peter Calderon from Heritage
PSA's "Board of Experts" + Authenticators
Dave Forman - Owner of SGC and his brother
Kevin Keating of Quality Autographs
Ken Goldin from Goldin Auctions
TJ Schwartz of SCD
Kevin Struss of Baseball Rarities

People need to be aware of this.
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Old 01-31-2016, 07:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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lol. net54 looks just like BO. They didn't even change the colors.

As for the story, that is eye opening to say the least. Yikes...
Yeah, but mature enviroment. PP FF common place there.
Real vintage there. T206 heaven.
Never had a problem there.
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Hauls of Shame has a story on it this morning:
http://haulsofshame.com/blog/?p=40088

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Yeah, but mature enviroment. PP FF common place there.
Real vintage there. T206 heaven.
Never had a problem there.
Leon Luckey got a nice little mention in the Hauls of Shame article LOL
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Hauls of Shame has a story on it this morning:
Hauls of Shame - Breaking News
I just read some of the comments. This one was funny.

"JC Clarke, Doug Allen, Bill Mastro, Leon Luckey: it’s like a scumbag Mt. Rushmore."
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