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Old 10-14-2013, 07:45 PM   #401 (permalink)
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I go with b as well. But in his scenario earlier he was trading it away but still saying 1-5. If you don't have a first it would be 2-5 which still is not right. You shouldn't be able to have a player drafted in first if you don't have a first pick available to draft him
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B. Reasons stated before.
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:29 PM   #403 (permalink)
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The Foster Boyz, jbmets95
Trade is off. Go back to page 14 and read through.

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Option B as well
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Old 10-15-2013, 12:11 PM   #405 (permalink)
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Option B for me too...
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Write AAAAAAAAAA for:

You can keep 2 first round players without having a first round draft pick (2,3,4,5)



Write BBBBBBBBBB for:

You need to have a first round draft pick to keep a first round player. You can keep 2 first round players by giving up rounds 1-3
To clarify B...
To keep ONE 1st Rd player from the previous draft year, you MUST have a 1st rd pick in the current year draft.

To keep TWO 1st rd players from the previous draft year, you MUST have a 1st, 2nd, AND 3rd rd pick in the current year draft.

To keep THREE 1st rd players from the previous draft year, you MUST have a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, AND 5th rd pick in the current year draft.

For other keeper rule applications, a team manager MUST have the correct draft penalty pick available in order to keep that player from the previous draft year. (i.e. to keep a 5th rd pick from the 2013 draft, team manager MUST have a 3rd rd pick in the 2014 draft).

Advice: For other keeper penalty applications, consult with the league commissioner (jbmets95) prior to executing the transaction (i.e. trade, waiver wire pick up, etc.)

Now that it's in writing, i'm content.
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Question: Can we trade picks for other things like cards and/or cash?
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I don't think so lol isn't that collusion ha?
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I would vote no on this. Being a money league, we all should remain on the same playing field...
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Great explanation and everyone is in agreement!
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To clarify B...
To keep ONE 1st Rd player from the previous draft year, you MUST have a 1st rd pick in the current year draft.

To keep TWO 1st rd players from the previous draft year, you MUST have a 1st, 2nd, AND 3rd rd pick in the current year draft.

To keep THREE 1st rd players from the previous draft year, you MUST have a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, AND 5th rd pick in the current year draft.

For other keeper rule applications, a team manager MUST have the correct draft penalty pick available in order to keep that player from the previous draft year. (i.e. to keep a 5th rd pick from the 2013 draft, team manager MUST have a 3rd rd pick in the 2014 draft).

Advice: For other keeper penalty applications, consult with the league commissioner (jbmets95) prior to executing the transaction (i.e. trade, waiver wire pick up, etc.)

Now that it's in writing, i'm content.
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Absolutely not, no way at all

Picks can only be traded for players
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So is this trade still going down?
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So is this trade still going down?
Negative. I thought I had the keeper rules down correctly, but obviously I did not based on consensus of the other league managers. I can't get rid of a 2014 1st rd pick and not be able to keep Foster and/or Richardson. Might readdress as the season progresses and I become eliminated from playoff contention.
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:12 AM   #414 (permalink)
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RULE PROPOSAL:
No player may be kept more than 3 years on the same team.

Was looking at some of the potential keepers, there are some players that I think team managers would keep on their rosters until that player is dead. Example: Say I wanted to keep Tom Brady. He'll never cost me anything more than a 3rd rd pick every year. Seems kind of unfair doesn't it?
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:09 AM   #415 (permalink)
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The trade accepted to make clear is

Smith and ridley

For

Julio and a 5th rounder

Trade will b accepted in league

Also im in agreement with max 3 years of keeping a player... Any other opinioms?
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RULE PROPOSAL:
No player may be kept more than 3 years on the same team.

Was looking at some of the potential keepers, there are some players that I think team managers would keep on their rosters until that player is dead. Example: Say I wanted to keep Tom Brady. He'll never cost me anything more than a 3rd rd pick every year. Seems kind of unfair doesn't it?
I do not agree with this. It's a keeper league, you should be able to keep whomever you like.
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I do not agree with this. It's a keeper league, you should be able to keep whomever you like.
This is a keeper league, not a franchise.

If the rule I proposed doesn't pass, then I would say propose a new rule:

RULE PROPOSAL:
For keepers in rds 1-3, penalty to keep is 1 higher rd than the previous year draft. I.e. a 2nd rd pick in the 2013 draft will cost you a 1st rd pick in 2014.

Or MODIFIED RULE PROPOSAL:
All KEEPERS, penalty to keep is 1 higher rd than the previous year draft regardless of draft round.
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I dont think there should be an extra penalty for keeping per year but i think a max of keeping a player 3 or 5 years should be considered


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I like the 3 year rule.
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:07 AM   #420 (permalink)
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This is a keeper league, not a franchise.

If the rule I proposed doesn't pass, then I would say propose a new rule:

RULE PROPOSAL:
For keepers in rds 1-3, penalty to keep is 1 higher rd than the previous year draft. I.e. a 2nd rd pick in the 2013 draft will cost you a 1st rd pick in 2014.

Or MODIFIED RULE PROPOSAL:
All KEEPERS, penalty to keep is 1 higher rd than the previous year draft regardless of draft round.
I vote no to the three year rule, AND no to the rule you proposed. Keeper Leagues are all about drafting for future potential. If someone grabs a rookie with a late round pick, they should be able to reap the benefits of their good choice for years to come. And we all already had agreed rounds one through three are an equal penalty as a keeper (ex. Brees was a second round pick this year, and would valued at a second round pick until he is no longer kept and redrafted by another team...).

We seriously need to stop trying to make new rules until at least the end of the fantasy season. Sorry to everyone whose team isn't doing too well and you're looking towards the future, but we can not penalize those who drafted well to aid those who are now looking toward next season...
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I vote no to the three year rule, AND no to the rule you proposed. Keeper Leagues are all about drafting for future potential. If someone grabs a rookie with a late round pick, they should be able to reap the benefits of their good choice for years to come. And we all already had agreed rounds one through three are an equal penalty as a keeper (ex. Brees was a second round pick this year, and would valued at a second round pick until he is no longer kept and redrafted by another team...).

We seriously need to stop trying to make new rules until at least the end of the fantasy season. Sorry to everyone whose team isn't doing too well and you're looking towards the future, but we can not penalize those who drafted well to aid those who are now looking toward next season...
I 1/2 agree with what you state. The other problem with keeper leagues is if a team is outright dominating year in/year out, why would anyone come back and spend more of their money. 1) leaves no incentive to stay in the league, and 2) leaves no incentive for new people to join the league. Sure, it's great for the guy who wins year in/year out.
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Who wants to TRADE:
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I vote no to the three year rule, AND no to the rule you proposed. Keeper Leagues are all about drafting for future potential. If someone grabs a rookie with a late round pick, they should be able to reap the benefits of their good choice for years to come.
I agree with this.
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I 1/2 agree with what you state. The other problem with keeper leagues is if a team is outright dominating year in/year out, why would anyone come back and spend more of their money. 1) leaves no incentive to stay in the league, and 2) leaves no incentive for new people to join the league. Sure, it's great for the guy who wins year in/year out.
I agree if a team is outright dominating then it may discourage other from coming back but that is why we have reversals in the draft order (last place gets 1st pick next season...first place gets last pick next season). Allowing teams to build for the future (hopefully more than three years) would be hampered by having a rule like that.
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i wanna be able to keep more than 3 players
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I agree with this.


I agree if a team is outright dominating then it may discourage other from coming back but that is why we have reversals in the draft order (last place gets 1st pick next season...first place gets last pick next season). Allowing teams to build for the future (hopefully more than three years) would be hampered by having a rule like that.
Exactly. And here is the thing, just because certain players, especially RB's that are kept as a keeper, are valued high, there is no guarantee that player will live up to the pick in which was forfeited to keep said player. There are countless players who suffer major injuries each year, as well as sharing carries/catches with team mates, injuries to teammates that effect said player's production, and the fact that every star in the league is one year closer to the end of his career every year, that just shows the importance of drafting well, but also having a plan for the future.

Ex. If you drafted Peyton Manning and Tony Gonzalez high this year, you're probably doing well in this league. But in year three? Gonzalez would have retired, and who knows with Manning. But if you're someone who drafted Julio Jones, Eddie Lacy, and Andrew Luck with a mind towards the future, you should be at a good place come year three. It all depends on your strategy for the now and your strategy for the future. By creating rules that limit teams even further than the already agreed upon rules, we limit the importance of a good drafting strategy.

And yes, I understand, some teams may be stronger than others next year, but how is that the fault of anyone but the team that didn't draft well? And, as previously mentioned, that is why we have the snake draft as we do. Worst teAm, first pick. If that pick doesn't pan out, it is only the fault of the team that made that pick, and no other team should have to pay for their mistake. plus, we have already paid for the first three seasons, I don't see anyone leaving before those three seasons are over, no matter how much a couple of teams may be dominating...

Sorry if it seems like I'm going on, but I don't see how we can fault those who are good just for being good, because after all, isn't the point of being in a league, especially a money league, is to put together the best team you can within the rules to win?
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