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Old 10-18-2013, 02:13 PM   #476 (permalink)
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I would prefer round 1-5 hav no penalty. Outside of those is -2.

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So you are changing your mind?

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Espn. I like -2 except top 3. And any days but 26 27 or 28th out of town
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Old 10-18-2013, 02:42 PM   #478 (permalink)
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That was pre draft. I have had many trade offers for gio and that ruling played heavily in the discussions. If we have majority in favor im fine with it but I want concrete rules not someone challenging or trying to find a loophole (you) halfway through the season
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Old 10-18-2013, 02:56 PM   #479 (permalink)
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I had to go back and read the keeper rules, I thought at one time only rds 1-3 were a rd for rd penalty, NOT Rds 1-5. In that case, I'm in even better position than I thought (personal opinion on that statement).
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As far as I know, that's 4 questioning, 3 for, and 1 leage commissioner.
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In favor of what? The current rules?
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Old 10-18-2013, 03:11 PM   #480 (permalink)
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In favor of what? The current rules?
I would say at this point, no one knows what the keeper rules are since it has been changed from what was initally agreed to.
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I would say at this point, no one knows what the keeper rules are since it has been changed from what was initally agreed to.
Well the keeper rules currently are whats posted on ESPN. I see what you are saying though about what was talked about during the preseason but as of right now the rules are there. I am just curious what I am down as In Favor for.
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Well the keeper rules currently are whats posted on ESPN. I see what you are saying though about what was talked about during the preseason but as of right now the rules are there. I am just curious what I am down as In Favor for.
Aren't you in favor of keeping rds 1-5 for that rd? No -2 penalty applied to those rounds?
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Aren't you in favor of keeping rds 1-5 for that rd? No -2 penalty applied to those rounds?
Well if that wasnt what the majority wanted preseason then I'm not necessarily in favor.

I do think that it should be taken into consideration that trades or actions by managers could have been made because of the current keeper rules but if thats not the case or majority still wants them changed to what was stated in the preseason then I wouldnt be opposed to it. I am in the middle and can see cases for either decision. So put me in the neutral zone lol
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Well if that wasnt what the majority wanted preseason then I'm not necessarily in favor.

I do think that it should be taken into consideration that trades or actions by managers could have been made because of the current keeper rules but if thats not the case or majority still wants them changed to what was stated in the preseason then I wouldnt be opposed to it. I am in the middle and can see cases for either decision. So put me in the neutral zone lol
I don't see it being mentioned that rounds 1-5 would be kept for rounds 1-5 when looking back through the thread. I see rounds 1-3 being kept for rounds 1-3 with subsequent rounds being kept for a 2 round draft penalty and being agreed to by many parties to the league during preseason... as far as trade considerations, yes it is impacting. Cromartie3145 (Team Donovan) and myself thought it was 1-3 with 2 round draft penalty for subsequent rounds. We are already in talks to make a trade again to completely reverse what we did. I'm also not sure what Sixburgh Steelers thinks as well (my other trade yesterday)

oh yea... I'll mark you down as "non-committal" right now,
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I don't see it being mentioned that rounds 1-5 would be kept for rounds 1-5 when looking back through the thread. I see rounds 1-3 being kept for rounds 1-3 with subsequent rounds being kept for a 2 round draft penalty and being agreed to by many parties to the league during preseason... as far as trade considerations, yes it is impacting. Cromartie3145 (Team Donovan) and myself thought it was 1-3 with 2 round draft penalty for subsequent rounds. We are already in talks to make a trade again to completely reverse what we did. I'm also not sure what Sixburgh Steelers thinks as well (my other trade yesterday)

oh yea... I'll mark you down as "non-committal" right now,
Looking back, I see what you mean as far as quite a few agreeing on other rules than what is posted now. Not all league managers weighed in on it but a handful did. I also see where Justin said it would be rounds 1-3 are kept as is and 3-5 are all kept as a 3rd with all else -2 but then it changed to what it is currently set at. It managed to slip passed everyone I guess. Lets see what the Commish has to say.
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Sorry guys have been busy all day:

Here are the keeper rules that were agreed to on espn before the season

So here are how the keeper rules will work

Writing this so we have no problems in the future

3 Keeper allowed Max

As many of the 3 Max keepers can be off the wavier wire

ANY Player drafted takes on those keeper rights

For Example, If I draft a RB in the first round and he gets hurt week 1, if i drop him and he is picked up, he can be kept for a first round pick and not a 12th

1st round pick --> Kept as a 1st round pick
2nd round pick --> Kept as a 2nd round pick
3rd-5th round pick --> Kept as a 3rd-5th round pick respectively

If want to keep a 3rd round pick and 4th round pick --> You Lose a 3rd round pick and a 4th round pick
If want to keep a 3rd round pick and 4th round pick and a 5th round pick --> You Lose a 3rd round pick and a 4th round pick and a 5th round pick

6th round pick --> Kept as a 4th round pick

If want to keep a 3rd round pick and 4th round pick and a 6th round pick --> You Lose a 3rd round pick and a 4th round pick and a 5th round pick

If want to keep a 3rd round pick and 5th round pick and a 6th round pick --> You Lose a 3rd round pick and a 4th round pick and a 5th round pick

If want to keep a 4th round pick and 5th round pick and a 6th round pick --> You Lose a 3rd round pick and a 4th round pick and a 5th round pick


7th Round pick --> Kept as a 5th round pick

If want to keep a 3rd round pick and 4th round pick and a 7th round pick --> You Lose a 3rd round pick and a 4th round pick and a 5th round pick

If want to keep a 3rd round pick and 5th round pick and a 7th round pick --> You Lose a 3rd round pick and a 4th round pick and a 5th round pick

If want to keep a 4th round pick and 5th round pick and a 7th round pick --> You Lose a 3rd round pick and a 4th round pick and a 5th round pick

8th round pick --> Kept as a 6th round pick
9th round pick --> Kept as a 7th round pick
10th round pick --> Kept as a 8th round pick
11th round pick --> Kept as a 9th round pick
12th round pick --> Kept as a 10th round pick
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Looking back, I see what you mean as far as quite a few agreeing on other rules than what is posted now. Not all league managers weighed in on it but a handful did. I also see where Justin said it would be rounds 1-3 are kept as is and 3-5 are all kept as a 3rd with all else -2 but then it changed to what it is currently set at. It managed to slip passed everyone I guess. Lets see what the Commish has to say.
The bolded part is the last thing I remember about keeper rule changes, but I was also not active on the forums for a week or so due to some personal issues, so maybe I missed something...
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Basically to sum it up

1-5 kept for that round

rounds 6 and 7 kept for a 5th round

after rounds 7 then the minus 2 comes into effect

so to keep a round 8 u lose a round 6


everyone understand??

What were the questions and does every1 continue to agree to this

these rules were the latest published and finalized before the draft


again to make it clear!!


1st round --> 1st round
2nd round --> 2nd round
3rd round --> 3rd round
4th round --> 4th round
5th round --> 5th round
6th round --> 5th round
7th round --> 5th round
8th round --> 6th round
9th round --> 7th round

and then so on

WAVIER WIRE KEPT FOR 10TH ROUND

WHAT ARE THE OBJECTIONS

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Sixburgh steelers chiming in. Let me preface what I'm about to say by stating this: In the preseason I stated 2 round penalty for keeping a pick with no specification of which round this starts on. With that said, I know I would of wanted it only 1-3.

However, I made that trade assuming that Torrey (4th rounder) could be kept as a 4th (I even told Eric this)

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The bolded part is the last thing I remember about keeper rule changes, but I was also not active on the forums for a week or so due to some personal issues, so maybe I missed something...
Yep, that's about what I remember. I don't remember or see any discussion about the changes for 1-5 being kept as is, 5-7 being kept as 5, and all others beyond 7 being kept as a 2 round penalty.

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Sixburgh steelers chiming in. Let me preface what I'm about to say by stating this: In the preseason I stated 2 round penalty for keeping a pick with no specification of which round this starts on. With that said, I know I would of wanted it only 1-3.

However, I made that trade assuming that Torrey (4th rounder) could be kept as a 4th (I even told Eric this)
I also agree with mikeman7322 about keepers applying to 1-3 in a round for round.

Looks like I'll be recalling all of my trades here shortly...mikeman7322, cromartie...PMs in-bound gentlemen.
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We need to get this figured out tonight. Because if these trades are going to be revoked, we need to adjust lineups etc.
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Yep, that's about what I remember. I don't remember or see any discussion about the changes for 1-5 being kept as is, 5-7 being kept as 5, and all others beyond 7 being kept as a 2 round penalty.



I also agree with mikeman7322 about keepers applying to 1-3 in a round for round.

Looks like I'll be recalling all of my trades here shortly...mikeman7322, cromartie...PMs in-bound gentlemen.
Wait, I am confused.

What part of it don't you like???
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I am also confused about what the argument even is????????
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Just so mikeman7322 and cromartie3145 and everyone else understand, I'm content with the trades in either situation, just want to make sure you guys are as well.

So far i'm good with cromartie3145 in either situation, waiting to see how it pans out for mikeman7322 and I to stand.
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Edit: Never mind. Just looked at the new rules.
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Trade completed

I give away Ray Rice for Gio B and a 5th round next year
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could package giovanni bernard or lamar miller with like keenan allen or some1 and add a draft pick for a top wr or rb
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could package giovanni bernard or lamar miller with like keenan allen or some1 and add a draft pick for a top wr or rb
Give me your best offer involving Giovanni Bernard and draft picks for Alfred Morris, if you're still interested...
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Trade completed

I give away Ray Rice for Gio B and a 5th round next year
Glad we were able to get a deal done jb

Listening to any offers no keepers locked in yet!
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Lookin to trade picks away and players for a top gun
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