Topps 1/1 Scam? UFC Knockout - How is this possible??

mmamaniac79 · 02-19-2011, 10:57 PM

I know this isn't a break thread but I wanted to post here because I see alot of UFC Knockout on here.

Can someone please explain to me how there could possibly be 2 redemptions on Ebay for the same card that is supposed to be a 1/1?? Is Topps scamming us here saying cards are 1/1 when they are not??

LOOK!

BROCK LESNAR TRIPLE THREADS AUTO RELIC WHITE WHALE 1/1 - eBay (item 370483731833 end time Feb-21-11 18:05:01 PST)

UFC KNOCKOUT RELIC AUTO WHITE WHALE BROCK LESNAR 1/1 - eBay (item 220737894670 end time Mar-12-11 16:25:06 PST)

mnvikingstwins · 02-19-2011, 10:58 PM

White whales are 1/1s

mmamaniac79 · 02-19-2011, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

White whales are 1/1s

RIGHT! So how do 2 different people both have a Brock Lesnar Triple Threads Auto White Whale redemption for sale on Ebay? That's 2 of the same card that is supposed to be a 1/1 card. Am I wrong??

SPURFAN4LIFE · 02-19-2011, 11:13 PM

yea there can be 2 1 of 1's because topps makes different variations just like in triple threads baseball, should be illegal to call it a white whale, just my opinion though...

mdh · 02-19-2011, 11:13 PM

Both ebayers are from Ontario, Canada. Maybe the BIN sold it to the other guy and forgot to take it down.

Who knows, but they look the same to me!

mightbe · 02-19-2011, 11:17 PM

They are probably printing plates, no?

mmamaniac79 · 02-19-2011, 11:21 PM

I don't know.. Only a few actual white whales from Knockout popped up on the bay so far & they all look the same. Doesn't appear to be any variations like I have seen with printing plates on other products.

mmamaniac79 · 02-19-2011, 11:36 PM

Look at this listing that shows the back of 1 of the cards. It says White Whale and One of One. No reference to printing plate or other colors. I have an A & G Magglio Ordonez printing plate & it says yellow printing plate on the card. Not these...

Royce Gracie UFC Knockout White Whale Auto 6 Relic 1/1 - eBay (item 260736763319 end time Feb-19-11 18:13:51 PST)

JFD70 · 02-19-2011, 11:54 PM

ONe is a BIN auction with a high BIN and the other is a regular. Probably same guy with two accounts. He has it as BIN and if someone bites, he cancels his auction. Not the most ethical thing.

Another thing it could be is one guy borrows his photo and puts a high BIN on it. If he sells it, he takes the money and buys the other guys at auction and pockets the difference and has the card shipped to his BIN customer, so he makes money without ever owning or possessing the card.

IndySportsCards · 02-20-2011, 12:16 AM

Maybe they're prounouncing the name different on each one. Maybe this is how the Topps marketing weasels justify it. For example

The first White Whale is pronounced: Why Tuh Way Uhl
but the 2nd is pronounced: Whyit Whahyl

mightbe · 02-20-2011, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFD70

ONe is a BIN auction with a high BIN and the other is a regular. Probably same guy with two accounts. He has it as BIN and if someone bites, he cancels his auction. Not the most ethical thing.

Another thing it could be is one guy borrows his photo and puts a high BIN on it. If he sells it, he takes the money and buys the other guys at auction and pockets the difference and has the card shipped to his BIN customer, so he makes money without ever owning or possessing the card.

Nice catch...didn't notice both sellers are in Ontario. They can still both be 100% legit but what a weird coincidence.

geoffyb · 02-23-2011, 02:21 PM

i had topps white whales in basketball and they were printing plates and I had more than 1 of the same person.

TPence1970 · 02-23-2011, 05:50 PM

I pulled a GSP White Whale today & it is a printing plate.

mmamaniac79 · 02-23-2011, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TPence1970

I pulled a GSP White Whale today & it is a printing plate.

And the GSP auto /3. Wow you are lucky! How many cases have you busted?

TPence1970 · 02-23-2011, 09:04 PM

5 total - and I am done (for now)

mcdo0423 · 02-24-2011, 03:23 AM

White Whales are printing plates. That means there are actually 4 versions. Cyan, Yellow, Magenta, and Black. Each one is stamped 1/1 since there is only 1 of each color.

02-19-2011, 10:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
mmamaniac79 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 271 brando7969	Topps 1/1 Scam? UFC Knockout - How is this possible?? I know this isn't a break thread but I wanted to post here because I see alot of UFC Knockout on here. Can someone please explain to me how there could possibly be 2 redemptions on Ebay for the same card that is supposed to be a 1/1?? Is Topps scamming us here saying cards are 1/1 when they are not?? LOOK! BROCK LESNAR TRIPLE THREADS AUTO RELIC WHITE WHALE 1/1 - eBay (item 370483731833 end time Feb-21-11 18:05:01 PST) UFC KNOCKOUT RELIC AUTO WHITE WHALE BROCK LESNAR 1/1 - eBay (item 220737894670 end time Mar-12-11 16:25:06 PST)

02-19-2011, 10:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Land of 11,842 lakes Posts: 24,757	White whales are 1/1s __________________ 66 plate autos so far: photobucket.com/plateautographs Collect Trevor Plouffe, Kennys Vargas, Twins Printing Plates, Toby Gerhart, Eric Decker Anyone need photos edited for signings? See here: http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/ttm-auto/500472-anyone-need-any-photos-edited-use-ttm-autos-willing-help.html

02-19-2011, 11:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
SPURFAN4LIFE Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 181 fuzzybearj	yea there can be 2 1 of 1's because topps makes different variations just like in triple threads baseball, should be illegal to call it a white whale, just my opinion though... __________________ Baseball-Houston Astros, New York Yankees Football-Dallas Cowboys, Minnesota Vikings Basketball-San Antonio Spurs

02-19-2011, 11:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
mdh Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,492 jimme420 mdh	Both ebayers are from Ontario, Canada. Maybe the BIN sold it to the other guy and forgot to take it down. Who knows, but they look the same to me! __________________ Sorry if I no longer make deals with members on here... Some things just drive a man insane...

02-20-2011, 12:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
IndySportsCards Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Indy Posts: 17,367 dirt1025 IndySportsCards	Maybe they're prounouncing the name different on each one. Maybe this is how the Topps marketing weasels justify it. For example The first White Whale is pronounced: Why Tuh Way Uhl but the 2nd is pronounced: Whyit Whahyl __________________ Come Visit The Comic Book Junkies on Blowout http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/comicbookjunkie/

02-19-2011, 11:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
mightbe Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 6,549 sleater--kinney MasterShake	They are probably printing plates, no?

02-19-2011, 11:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
mmamaniac79 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 271 brando7969	I don't know.. Only a few actual white whales from Knockout popped up on the bay so far & they all look the same. Doesn't appear to be any variations like I have seen with printing plates on other products.

02-19-2011, 11:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
mmamaniac79 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 271 brando7969	Look at this listing that shows the back of 1 of the cards. It says White Whale and One of One. No reference to printing plate or other colors. I have an A & G Magglio Ordonez printing plate & it says yellow printing plate on the card. Not these... Royce Gracie UFC Knockout White Whale Auto 6 Relic 1/1 - eBay (item 260736763319 end time Feb-19-11 18:13:51 PST)

02-19-2011, 11:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
JFD70 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 26	ONe is a BIN auction with a high BIN and the other is a regular. Probably same guy with two accounts. He has it as BIN and if someone bites, he cancels his auction. Not the most ethical thing. Another thing it could be is one guy borrows his photo and puts a high BIN on it. If he sells it, he takes the money and buys the other guys at auction and pockets the difference and has the card shipped to his BIN customer, so he makes money without ever owning or possessing the card.

02-23-2011, 02:21 PM	#12 (permalink)
geoffyb Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 766	i had topps white whales in basketball and they were printing plates and I had more than 1 of the same person.

02-23-2011, 05:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
TPence1970 Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 1,250	I pulled a GSP White Whale today & it is a printing plate. __________________ Currently Buying : Isaiah Pead Always Buying : Pete Rose & Eric Davis I do not send or accept PayPal gift payments.

02-23-2011, 09:04 PM	#15 (permalink)
TPence1970 Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 1,250	5 total - and I am done (for now) __________________ Currently Buying : Isaiah Pead Always Buying : Pete Rose & Eric Davis I do not send or accept PayPal gift payments.

02-24-2011, 03:23 AM	#16 (permalink)
mcdo0423 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,012	White Whales are printing plates. That means there are actually 4 versions. Cyan, Yellow, Magenta, and Black. Each one is stamped 1/1 since there is only 1 of each color.

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