|02-07-2012, 03:23 PM||#1 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Tristar TNA Reflexxions Box/Break/Contest
Break and review is posted first, followed by contest portion.
TRISTAR TNA Reflexxions Wrestling Trading Cards
Only 100 cases made.
24 boxes per master case.
12 boxes per half case.
20 packs per box.
6 cards per pack.
99 card base set, 100 if you count the checklist which seem to be inserted as box toppers.
7 guranteed "hits" per box.
-3 autograph cards numbered to 99 or less.
-1 event used ring mat autograph card numbered to 50 or less, or 1 event used memorabilia numbered to 199 or less.
-2 base set parallels numbered to 40 or less.
-1 premium reflexxions foil card numbered to 40 or less.
What was pulled-
Complete 99 card base set with checklist. The usual mix of male and female talent cards and a few TNA Debut "rookie" cards.
Card #92 #d/40
Card #R14 #d/40 "Premium Reflexxions Foil"
Card #4 #d 1/1
Authentic Action Memorabilia-
Card #M32 #d /199
Card #31 #d/25
Card #61 #d/50
Card #R2-15 #d/25
I wasnt too sure what I was going to think of this new set. Tristar always loads up with the top talent of TNA when giving collectors the premium inserts such as autographs and event worn cards and such.
The first thing I noticed when ripping into this box were the base cards. I liked them. In the past few sets I wasnt much of a fan. They did well with Cross The Line and New Era, got a blah feeling from the 2009 release of Impact. That continued with Signature Impact. I cant say that this time around.
As you can tell by the scans, each base set card has an in color photo of the person on the card on one half, and a reverse image in black and white on the other half, which gives the feeling that each base set card is an insert. Something that I can most definately get behind.
The base set is done where the first 61 cards are of TNA talent, then followed by what they call "subsets".
62 through 72 is Ultimate Sunday. The person listed the card gives a brief description about how they spend their superbowl sunday.
73 through 79 is Fast Traxx. The person listed on the card gives a brief description their favorite vehicles etc.
80 through 86 is Be My Valentine. The person listed on the card gives a brief description on their thoughts on Valentines Day.
87 through 90 is Steiners World. Scott Steiner gives his take on the person listed on the front of the card.
91 through 99 is Lending A Hand. The person listed on the card talks about their favorite charity and how they like to help.
Ive been collecting cards since the early 1980's. Ive been in the game long enough that subsets are usually referred to what is now called inserts. I wouldnt consider them as subset cards, but still a part of the base set. I think they have enough going on where they can leave those as the base set, and create actual insert sub-sets. Maybe highlight a PPV match or two. Famous feuds from the recent past that went down since the last set was put out.
My thoughts have pretty much been the same across all TNA sets from Tristar in that the serial numbered cards shouldnt count as a "hit".
The event worn still gives collectors a solid lineup. Especially when it comes to the duals, triples, and quads. Its nice to see some swatches with multicolor parts from the worn gear, and maybe I speak for myself on this part but I think most of the multicolor swatches should be saved for some of the lower numbered pieces. Especially 1/1s. The look of the event worn doesnt seem like it change all that much from the TNA Signature set. Felt like the same, just different color scheme.
Even though an autographed mat card wasnt pulled, Ive seen several between other message boards and on ebay and can say they made a good choice in doing these. The only advice Id have on improving these is maybe have a piece of the mat from a PPV and have dual sigs from those that had match against each other. There are tag matches that would make it hard to have more than 2 sigs on one card, but like some of the other card companys do, they can use redemptions for booklets. The only reason I mention a redemption is in case the booklet is too thick to insert into a pack.
I know some of you think ill of a company that uses redemptions but when it comes to Tristar and TNA, you will be taken care of. I could be wrong but I dont think Tristar has put out a redemption for an item that they never had.
Now, onto the autographs! I liked the single autographs because I liked the look of the base set cards. Thats basically what you are getting, a signed base card but with the foil on the front and the numbering on the back. Of course that changes when you pull a dual or triple and so on.
I did notice that they didnt go with the glitter and just stuck with colored foil. The front of the dual that I pulled came with the same foil card look as the "Premium Reflexxions" parallel.
Overall, as always, theres a nice mixture of sigs offered in this set along with the memorabilia cards. The base set was definately pleasant look wise when compared to the past few sets. You can tell some of the profile cards were posed shots and some were cropped from action pics taken at a match. I bring that up because as most know, I collect ODB and whoever used that pic for her base set and autograph cards made a really bad choice in my opinion. Maybe its due to time constraints where thats all they have to work with, but when you look at some of the others, they could have done better for my girl.
Id like for them to bring back redemptions for stuff like the signed 8x10 and baseballs and other memorabilia. Maybe even insert cards to send in to enter a drawing of sorts, something along those lines.
Last but not least, Id like to talk about the cost. Granted you get more "hits" with Tristars product than you do with Topps, but the cost of these are pretty up there. Id like to see that change, as would most collectors I think. Im not privy to how everything goes down when it comes to figuring up the hits per box ration and the cost involved, but I think people would like to see the hits lowered in order to bring down the cost of the boxes.
We all know when it comes to buying boxes, its a gamble, theres just no arguing that. You wont always get the big hit but its a tough pill to swall when the cost is where it is, and even with 7 hits per box, it seems tough to even get half the boxes value back.
Like Ive always said, if you can afford to break a box or two, I say go for it. Tristars TNA product is a fun break no doubt. If youre on a budget, stick to ebay or watch others that break the boxes for you and pick up what you want that way.
Part 1. Guess the serial numbers. Over or under, it doesnt matter. The only one I outed was the obvious 1/1. Attempt a guess for all 3 autos, 1 event used, and 2 parallels.
If you guess the number exactly, you win that hit. Since this is going to be posted on more than one site, its entirely possible someone will guess the same number as you. If that happens, the preference goes to who entered their guess first.
Part 2. Give your opinion on the review and where you think they could improve and what you would like to see done with future releases.
You MUST include #1 and #2 with your answers. Put some effort into it please! If the opinion portion is good enough, its entirely possible Ill put more prize material in.
This contest is open from the time it was posted, until this sunday at 6pm central. Everyone is allowed to take a shot, including the mods of the site.
Edited answers are voided and disqualified.
Since this will be posted on more than one site, theres a chance they may take an issue with it and delete it and tell me no! This isnt intended to promote any one site on others etc etc. If anyone has questions, dont hesitate to drop me a pm in order to keep the guessing portion of the thread clean and free of clutter.
If you find this on another site, feel free to make different serial number guesses.
Hopefully I covered all the bases, if I have to edit anything, Ill note it at the end of the OP.
Have at it!
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|02-07-2012, 03:58 PM||#2 (permalink)|
Join Date: Sep 2009
Sting - 25
Vsky- those look like 36s...I mean 36
Triple - 41
Dual auto - 11
2) Overall I was dissapointed with the base cards. Not sure if someone in design was a big fan of the Lex Luger "The Narcissist" era or what happened here. Posed collor with a mirrored action shot would have been much more appealing.
Parallels would work much better if they had some game worn photo shoot material from the shot in the cards. Thos ewould have been fun football jerseys then.
An easy concept for them auto wise would be dream matches. Seeing as how I doubt I'll ever see a Hardy/RVD/AJ Styles TLC match, it would be nice to at least have a trio auto of the three. Or Hogan v. Roode, older wrestler v. newer wrestler, etc.
"So hard-signed Autograph Cards without nasty redemptions isn’t that difficult to do. You just have to want to do it for your collectors"---Price 3:16
|02-07-2012, 04:14 PM||#3 (permalink)|
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: lake worth,florida
i liked the look of these cards...the mirror reflection is unique ...and i agree with rink as dream matches would have been a great set...i would like a set kida like then and no with a past legend and a new star on the same dual for instance...jake the snake roberts and aj styles....thanks!!!
|02-07-2012, 05:05 PM||#4 (permalink)|
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Winnipeg, Canada
2) I Loved the base set!!! I like the cool look of it because as the name states Reflexxons it is.
I would like to see a redemption card of various tiers ( yes I know a bad word) . If you pull a Tier 1 you choose 1 name from a list of wrestlers and a patch of a wrestler of your choice. If you pull a Tier 2 you pick 2 names and 2 pieces of material. In short you make pick the card you want and its short printed. If you pick a Tier 4 you get a booklet card of the wrestler of your choice
|02-07-2012, 06:36 PM||#5 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2010
take out the tristar logo and put it on the back of the card. pictures of the base cards seem to normal, nothing fantastic. give a lttle effect such as lighting or texture to the base cards.
|02-08-2012, 12:34 PM||#6 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Lexingon, KY
First off, thanks for the contest.
In your last contest, I stated I would like to have more studio shots and that is exactly whet I got with the Reflexxions set. I love the use of the "mirror" on all the base cards. Best looking base cards I have seen in awhile.
I love the fact they put in mat auto cards in to this set. Don't look to be a great verity in autos on those however, but cool none the less.
I dont like the idea of having redemptions in any set of cards, Tristar appears to do a great job in getting the product signed and in a timly manner(i dont think this procuct was delayed, but may be wrong).
The only down side is the cost per box. I know the number of hits is higher than with Topps WWE product, but the odds of getting that BIG hit are slim, I would suggest buying the singles of what you want off this board or other boards or even eBay. You will make out in the long run.
The Three Autos I got in my box are Rosita, Sorrenson and Crimson/Morgan dual. needless to say I will not even get clode to making my money back on those. I did not get a 1/1 or a mat card.
But over all I would give the looks of the product a 8.5 out of 10.
|02-08-2012, 04:56 PM||#7 (permalink)|
Join Date: Sep 2009
Thanks for the cool contest!
The base cards look pretty nice overall.
I really hate that Tristar promotes hits as numbered cards. They do this in all the Obak sets as well. Hits are relics and autos, pretty simple.
Here are my guesses:
Triple Event Used 77/199
Steiner Auto 19/25
Winter Auto 46/50
Dual Auto 7/25
Sting Parallel 39/40
Velvet Sky Parallel 29/40
|02-08-2012, 05:04 PM||#8 (permalink)|
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Land of 11,842 lakes
Sting parallel 28/40
Velvet Sky parallel 23/40
Triple patch 23/199
Insert sets to me look better than the base set, not a big fan of the relflected image.
102 plate autos so far: photobucket.com/plateautographs
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|02-09-2012, 03:58 AM||#9 (permalink)|
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Portage, IN
I think the base cards look great, but the reflected image shouldn't be as big as the regular image. This would be a great set for in person or through the mail autographs. The subsets could have used a little more style to them. They're a little to plain looking.
|02-10-2012, 11:44 AM||#11 (permalink)|
Join Date: Aug 2009
Velvet Sky- 21
Sting/Steiner/Jarrett Triple- 2
I like the look of the base cards- something different. Jolietracing talked about getting the base signed ttm/ip- I wish they would do one of the sets like the first impact where there are not so glossy to get signed. While I like having autographs of every person on the roster, I wish they wouldn't include every person in each set. How many autographs of each wrestler are there going to be by the time they are done? Do it more like WWE topps and put a few in each set.
|02-11-2012, 11:55 PM||#13 (permalink)|
Join Date: Mar 2010
Card #92 27/40
Card #R14 16/40 "Premium Reflexxions Foil"
Card #M32 148 /199
Card #31 12/25
Card #61 43/50
Card #R2-15 3/25
Good review. I liked the base set a lot this year an it was a nice change of pace. I thing that they need to stop have everyone of there guys sign as it hurts the value of their product. If they take out the scrubs and lower the box price to $50 I think more people will buy and you can get more money out of selling. I like the parallels in the product as well. Thanks for the contest!
Collecting Amazing Spiderman! 53/704 (7.53)
|02-13-2012, 06:56 AM||#14 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jan 2008
If I have time when I get off of work, Ill tally things up tonight, if not definately sometime tomorrow.
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|02-13-2012, 06:40 PM||#15 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jan 2008
These are the serial numbers.
Card #92 #6/40
Card #R14 #20/40 "Premium Reflexxions Foil"
Card #M32 #135/199
Card #31 #16/25
Card #61 #29/50
Card #R2-15 #8/25
I need to cross check to see if anyone hit, and if they did make sure nobody else did, and if someone else did, see who entered first. If theres any dispute in regards to the other sites having a winner, Ill be more than happy to provide links to the sites in question but it would have to be via email. I dont want to post them openly or via pm and possibly break spam rules etc.
Unless Im wrong, nobody here got one although one came within 1 number of hitting the triple event used.
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