Tiger woods fake auto?

kyle1707 · 06-04-2009, 10:56 PM

i know this golf but

this is fake right?

Tiger Woods 1/1 2004 SP Authentic Auto Autograph 1 of 1 - eBay (item 180365106504 end time Jun-07-09 11:14:00 PDT)

Zacky1053 · 06-04-2009, 11:27 PM

To my knowledge that is not a UD hologram. And they've had the same holograms for years now so it most likely wasn't different back then.

Dobber2330 · 06-04-2009, 11:46 PM

Yes - its fake and not a UD hologram

ifish73 · 06-05-2009, 09:04 AM

Just ask for a close-up picture of the hologram and contact UD with the serial number on it. They are supposed to be able to tell you what the hologram is from. I agree with everyone else that it appears fake but if you are interested get the serial #.

mdh · 06-05-2009, 09:55 AM

I contacted him about the auction just to see where he got it from and any details about the card. I havn't heard back yet though.

Tonic3 · 06-05-2009, 10:27 AM

I follow golf cards religiously and I would say that is a fake. The autograph doesn't look right and the fact that it's on a card that's already #/100 makes it even more suspect. The card itself is worth $60 unsigned so it looks like somebody ruined a perfectly good card.

37Jetson · 06-05-2009, 10:57 AM

If you are going to fake a card, go big or go home.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonic3

I follow golf cards religiously and I would say that is a fake. The autograph doesn't look right and the fact that it's on a card that's already #/100 makes it even more suspect. The card itself is worth $60 unsigned so it looks like somebody ruined a perfectly good card.

Zacky1053 · 06-05-2009, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonic3

...looks like somebody ruined a perfectly good card.

Unfortunately that always seems to be the case. I guess that's their problem if they want to throw away money like that. HOWEVER, I believe there are enough uneducated buyers out there where the seller can get a decent chunk of change as long as the card isn't too out of the realm of reality. That's sad...

Hiddendolphin · 06-10-2009, 04:30 PM

For Sure fake...card doesn't look rite...

Vintage Collector · 06-10-2009, 04:47 PM

Why are all his listings/winning bidders private?

I love the close up of the "1/1".

Nicnac · 06-10-2009, 05:03 PM

i like how Craig''s continues to get all this bad media for bad people abusing the system, yet eBay continues to peddle fake stuff in the hundreds of thousands of dollars a year with NO repercussions.

go_steelers07 · 06-10-2009, 05:31 PM

That's sad.......... and the guy in the photo doesn't look anything like Tiger either.

emr98 · 06-10-2009, 09:59 PM

The 1/1 looks like it was wrote in pen.LMAO

Zacky1053 · 06-11-2009, 02:02 AM

If I recall, doesn't eBay flash a warning regarding the validity of an autograph whenever you list an item? I cannot recall what the warning is, but clearly it isn't enough to stop people from posting these...

Nicnac · 06-11-2009, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zacky1053

If I recall, doesn't eBay flash a warning regarding the validity of an autograph whenever you list an item? I cannot recall what the warning is, but clearly it isn't enough to stop people from posting these...

Short of there being criminal repercussions, no warning popup is going to stop people from listing knockoffs.

Zacky1053 · 06-25-2009, 01:40 AM

Good point...

SCtxholdem · 07-07-2009, 01:59 AM

The autograph is fake but the hologram is real. The hologram is the holograms used on the 2004 SP Authentic Baseball Buy Backs, They usually read like this AAA382942. As for how they are removed from a card and placed on another is actually pretty simple. They take a cheap buy back autograph soak the card in warm water with a little bit of dawn dishwashing liquid. The hologram will start to peel of by itself without damaging the hologram. They then take the hologram lay it face down allowing it to dry. when it drys the glue on the hologram becomes tacky again, they just place it on another card with a fake autograph. I wish I could find the article again that told this. I know that it said it was really bad in the Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, Illonois, Wisconsin area and that there were alot of these cards appearing there. All of the Buy Backs are suppose to have a COA card with a matching hologram with the players name on it. The yearly baseball and football becketts list all the buybacks in them and states what years have what serial numbers for instance AAA369584 was one year BDC539345 was another each year and each sport is different. As for the Tiger Woods I am pretty sure the buy back was number to 3, besides that s the 5th or 6th one of those thats been listed not having the accompanying COA card. The warm water and dawn trick also works on any holographic sticker and has been used also on Helmets, Mini Helmets, Footballs, Basketballs, Jerseys, Bats, and Pucks. So honestly guys beware when buying anything thats not an on card auto certified by the card company. Thats why I only collect autographs I obtain in person or that is on card from a pack.

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ifish73 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: S. New Jersey Posts: 2,296 ifish73	Just ask for a close-up picture of the hologram and contact UD with the serial number on it. They are supposed to be able to tell you what the hologram is from. I agree with everyone else that it appears fake but if you are interested get the serial #. __________________ Collecting 1995, 1996 Marvel Masterpieces, 1995 Marvel Metal and 2007 DC Legacy Also looking for Doctor Who Battles in Time and autographed index cards

06-05-2009, 09:55 AM	#5 (permalink)
mdh Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,492 jimme420 mdh	I contacted him about the auction just to see where he got it from and any details about the card. I havn't heard back yet though. __________________ Sorry if I no longer make deals with members on here... Some things just drive a man insane...

06-10-2009, 04:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
Vintage Collector Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,645 mitcards	Why are all his listings/winning bidders private? I love the close up of the "1/1". __________________ Vintage Collector's Ebay ID is - Mitcards All ebay auctions starting at 99 cents no reserve. I will also trade My Cards for your Silver or Gold! Never Forget 9/11, Be Diligent and Safe!

06-10-2009, 05:31 PM	#12 (permalink)
go_steelers07 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: No. VA Posts: 8,263 go_steelers2011 go_steelers08	That's sad.......... and the guy in the photo doesn't look anything like Tiger either. __________________ Best Youtube break in the History of Youtube.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjoJC5H-sl8

06-04-2009, 11:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zacky1053 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21,478 Zacky1053	To my knowledge that is not a UD hologram. And they've had the same holograms for years now so it most likely wasn't different back then.

06-04-2009, 11:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
Dobber2330 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oswego, IL Posts: 2,154 cardsbydoby dobber2330	Yes - its fake and not a UD hologram

06-05-2009, 10:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tonic3 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 291	I follow golf cards religiously and I would say that is a fake. The autograph doesn't look right and the fact that it's on a card that's already #/100 makes it even more suspect. The card itself is worth $60 unsigned so it looks like somebody ruined a perfectly good card.

06-10-2009, 04:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
Hiddendolphin Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 20	For Sure fake...card doesn't look rite...

06-10-2009, 05:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
Nicnac Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 5,614	i like how Craig''s continues to get all this bad media for bad people abusing the system, yet eBay continues to peddle fake stuff in the hundreds of thousands of dollars a year with NO repercussions.

06-10-2009, 09:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
emr98 Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Buckeye State Posts: 408	The 1/1 looks like it was wrote in pen.LMAO

06-11-2009, 02:02 AM	#14 (permalink)
Zacky1053 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21,478 Zacky1053	If I recall, doesn't eBay flash a warning regarding the validity of an autograph whenever you list an item? I cannot recall what the warning is, but clearly it isn't enough to stop people from posting these...

06-25-2009, 01:40 AM	#16 (permalink)
Zacky1053 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21,478 Zacky1053	Good point...

07-07-2009, 01:59 AM	#17 (permalink)
SCtxholdem Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Prattville, Alabama Posts: 820 chole847	The autograph is fake but the hologram is real. The hologram is the holograms used on the 2004 SP Authentic Baseball Buy Backs, They usually read like this AAA382942. As for how they are removed from a card and placed on another is actually pretty simple. They take a cheap buy back autograph soak the card in warm water with a little bit of dawn dishwashing liquid. The hologram will start to peel of by itself without damaging the hologram. They then take the hologram lay it face down allowing it to dry. when it drys the glue on the hologram becomes tacky again, they just place it on another card with a fake autograph. I wish I could find the article again that told this. I know that it said it was really bad in the Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, Illonois, Wisconsin area and that there were alot of these cards appearing there. All of the Buy Backs are suppose to have a COA card with a matching hologram with the players name on it. The yearly baseball and football becketts list all the buybacks in them and states what years have what serial numbers for instance AAA369584 was one year BDC539345 was another each year and each sport is different. As for the Tiger Woods I am pretty sure the buy back was number to 3, besides that s the 5th or 6th one of those thats been listed not having the accompanying COA card. The warm water and dawn trick also works on any holographic sticker and has been used also on Helmets, Mini Helmets, Footballs, Basketballs, Jerseys, Bats, and Pucks. So honestly guys beware when buying anything thats not an on card auto certified by the card company. Thats why I only collect autographs I obtain in person or that is on card from a pack. Last edited by SCtxholdem; 07-07-2009 at 03:20 AM.

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