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Old 10-21-2012, 01:05 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Possible shilled auction as well. 65% bid activity with that 1 feedback buyer.
Very common with PWCC
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i have a 1982 Flair, andre and Hogan RAW...but they are in pretty rough shape...what is the going rate for ungraded versions of the three??? I will add some pics later..but i'd say they are BGS 5's at best...
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:05 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I am not aware of any other sales this high for a wrestling card but perhaps some much older one's such as a Frank Gotch have sold for more.


For whatever reason the card is back up on EBAY.
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I believe the 1910 Frank Gotch Pet Mouthpiece would be the most valuable wrestling card, but I've never even seen one come up for sale.
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A fellow wrestling card collector Rob England or WrestlingCardKing has quite a few Frank Gotch cards in his collection. He also has a number of George Hackenschmidt that would certainly go for a lot of money if they ever came for sale.

The most expensive card would be a 1982 Wrestling All Stars Hulk Hogan PSA 10 but there are none so far and none of the BGS 9.5's have a chance of crossing over and most would not even be a PSA 9.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:07 AM   #31 (permalink)
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It looks like it sold for about half of what it did the first time.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:58 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I found it to be very strange that it came right back up for sale. I am not suggesting there was any funny business on the part of Brent from PWCC but it just seemed odd to me to instantly put it back on EBAY.

From looking at the bidding list on the second auction it is nice to see that Ray from Hawaii won it as he is putting together a BGS graded set and I am sure he was very pleased to win it at that price. He has some great cards at this point.

The problem with that card is both centering and size. Many of the Wrestling All Stars from the 82A come straight from the factory short and are not trimmed. In recent months PSA has begun to reject these as Min Size Req. When I got my first reject I was floored but it is what it is. This card does indeed measure short and might not even grade at all. It certainly would have in the past though.

I think this card definately has tremendous corners, surface, and edges but would most likely grade a PSA 9 OC or perhaps a straight 8. There is an outside shot that it would get a 9 with such strong attributes but no chance of a PSA 10 for sure.

It was said earlier in the thread that a PSA 10 could command $5,000 and I think that is true but is especially true for the Hogan. I have long said it would be in that range but after seeing Pop 1's from the 83 set go for $1,000 to $1,500 off EBAY on the private market that number may prove to be conservative.

There is a dealer who has put a lot of time and money into finding these cards and he recently offered me $1,500 for my Dusty Rhodes PSA 10 and said he thinks he would have a buyer in the $10,000 range for the Hogan.

When PSA interviewed me for the article in the SMR I said that I did not think a Hogan PSA 10 would ever surface and up to this point it has not and there is a good chance it never will. That interview took place in April of 2011.

There was also mention of a Ric Flair BGS 9.5 that was on EBAY and that card was horrible with no lower border. That was a PSA 9 OC at best or a straight PSA 7. At this time there are only three PSA 10's of Flair still in the PSA holders as one was crossed to BGS very early in the grading cycle for these and I know for certain that a PSA 10 would bring at least three times the price of a BGS 9.5 easily. They have put so many cards in their high grade holders that do not deserve to be there that it has really killed the prices in many cases of their graded cards and this is across the board and not just in wrestling.
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A fellow wrestling card collector Rob England or WrestlingCardKing has quite a few Frank Gotch cards in his collection. He also has a number of George Hackenschmidt that would certainly go for a lot of money if they ever came for sale.

The most expensive card would be a 1982 Wrestling All Stars Hulk Hogan PSA 10 but there are none so far and none of the BGS 9.5's have a chance of crossing over and most would not even be a PSA 9.
Rob and I have a website for listing vintage wrestling cards:

Vintage Wrestling Card Archive (X-Titles.com)

No Hackenschmidt would come close to a 1910 Gotch Pet card.

Hulk Hogan PSA 10 doesn't count since there isn't one
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I have used your site a few times for sure. It is a great resource.

What is the background on the Frank Gotch card you are referencing?
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I have used your site a few times for sure. It is a great resource.

What is the background on the Frank Gotch card you are referencing?
The T224/T229 set is incredibly rare. I think there are only 25 or so cards graded in the entire set (by PSA, not sure about SGC)

I have a Harley Davidson that I bought at auction in '05
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1910 T229 Kopec Cigarettes Sports Champions


Looks like you have the only graded example of Harley Davidson.

Is there any connection to the motorcycle brand?
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1910 T229 Kopec Cigarettes Sports Champions


Looks like you have the only graded example of Harley Davidson.

Is there any connection to the motorcycle brand?
Nope. Although he did race motorcycles. He was a champion roller skater

Strange coincidence
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Here is the best Andre so far to surface. This was the most I have spent on a card ever.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:47 PM   #39 (permalink)
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That is a great PSA 9 Andre card dp100.

I'd guess back then they didn't have all the copyright laws now and the company making the sets was able to use images.

I wonder who owns the rights to Wrestling All Stars brand name and the rights to these cards.

Could Topps or Leaf get rights to these and make reprints. Or have some of the living guys do autograph versions of them. Maybe a buy back auto thing. Although finding stashes of a certain card would not be easy in nice shape. With how few sets were made. Probably have to do the reprint route. Wonder if Hogan charges a premium to sign these cards.
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Zen Cart!, The Art of E-commerce


Brian from Wrestleprints.com owns the rights to the photos and purchased them from Norman Keitzer who published the magazines and created the cards.

All of the photos used for the cards came from the various Wrestling News magazines.


Here are a few of the stock photos.


Kerry Von Erich









Ric Flair and Dick Slater









Hulk Hogan and Andre The Giant









Iron Sheik










Hulk Hogan











Hulk Hogan









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Order form for 82B and 83










At this time Hogan does not charge extra but I get the feeling he will one day. Here are a few I just got signed at the opening of the Hogan's Beach Shop in Clearwater.



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Here are more of the cards to match the photos.

































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Nice work finding where photos came from.

Those are some nice cards.

I wonder when 1985 WWE heritage set comes out the end of the month. If it will spark interest in 1985 original WWF cards.
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Looks like you have the only graded example of Harley Davidson.

Is there any connection to the motorcycle brand?
Harley Davidson just same name - no relation to motorcycle brand.
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I have used your site a few times for sure. It is a great resource.

What is the background on the Frank Gotch card you are referencing?
Here's an image of the front and back of the Frank Gotch Pet Mouthpiece card.

The Kopec version (different back) is even rarer (currently no graded example with PSA).
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PSA has only 1 graded example of the Pet Mouthpiece card, which is graded PSA 1Q
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Thank you for posting the scan of that card.

Rob said he sold one of them and it was less then $400.

What would you put the value of this card at?
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Thank you for posting the scan of that card.

Rob said he sold one of them and it was less then $400.

What would you put the value of this card at?
It's tough to say. I would say at least $400-$500 for lower conditions, maybe more. Rob's sale of the card was several years ago, I believe (it might have been part of a big trade if I remember correctly). The Kopec version would be worth even more. Better conditions would be much higher, of course.
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:29 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Here's the most expensive card of a wrestler:

SGC-Graded 1935 National Chicle Nagurski Sells for $240,000 -- re> PARSIPPANY, N.J., July 21 /PRNewswire/ --
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:42 PM   #49 (permalink)
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A PSA 9 Sold for $350,000 in 2011.

1935 National Chicle - SMR Online

Judging by the wording in the SMR I am guessing this card you posted got crossed over to an equal PSA Mint grade in 2006.

Big price for a card for sure!
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Wow. I didn't know about the newer sale. I'd be thrilled having a PSA 1.
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