Rock v Hogan v Flair v Ventura

Namttip · 02-11-2013, 09:39 PM

So who has benefited the most from wrestling?

With the recent Rock push I was originally thinking who was the bigger wrestler and that would obviously be Flair, Hogan, Ventura, then Rock. However who has benefited the most from being a wrestler?

I would argue that it would be Ventura, then Rock, to Hogan, Flair. A better discussion might be who recently benefited more Rock or Lesnar from WWE....

Thoughts?

nera20 · 02-11-2013, 09:41 PM

its a tough one if you rank those guys it probably at the moment is Hogan, Rock, Ventura, and Flair, but I think the Rock passes out Hogan soon.

Namttip · 02-11-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nera20

its a tough one if you rank those guys it probably at the moment is Hogan, Rock, Ventura, and Flair, but I think the Rock passes out Hogan soon.

I was looking at who's done more - I would say Ventura's governorship trumps everything...

But as far as pop culture, I think more people at this moment know Rock over Hogan due to the generation gap now. 10 years ago I would have said Hogan probably...

NewAgeHardcore · 02-12-2013, 06:15 AM

Out of those four names, Flair is the only one who hasn't had major success outside of the wrestling industry. The Rock is a movie star. Hogan had his reality show and lots of endorsements. Ventura was Governor, an author and a TV host.

If you ask who has benefited the most from wrestling? Then the answer needs to be calculated from the things the person got outside of the wrestling industry. Flair shouldn't even be in the same discussion as the other three, because he isn't even close. Flair might be one, if not the greatest wrestler of all-time but his personal wealth, mainstream popularity and status in pop culture is far lower than the other three names - Rock and Hogan more specifically.

10 years ago, Hogan would have beaten out The Rock hands down. But now The Rock stars in $100M movies and Hogan is more of a TMZ tabloid-type of celebrity. Also because of the divorce and lawsuit from Nick's crash, Hogan's fortune is much lower than what it once was. The Rock has a reported net worth of $70M, Hogan's net worth is now only about $5M.

If Ventura would have stayed in politics, he might be the winner here but now it's a conspiracy theory guy.

My list:

The Rock
Hogan
Ventura
Flair

Imac7065 · 02-12-2013, 06:37 AM

In the REAL world (real life success): Ventura, Rock, Hogan, Flair

In mainstream popularity (IE asking an average joe if you know who they are): Hogan...................... Rock, Ventura......Flair

In WRESTLING: Flair, Hogan, Ventura, Rock (rock will pass ventura soon but ventura was around for like 30 years as a wrestler and announcer)

In "la la land" (Movies, TV etc): Hogan, Rock, Ventura............Flair

my 2 cents on this.

EWG3 · 02-12-2013, 09:37 AM

I would have to say Rock has surpassed Hogan in the Movie side of things. Other than Rocky 3 (which was a small role) Hogan's movies were horrible. Rock on the other hand has had way more success in Hollywood.

Imac7065 · 02-12-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by EWG3

I would have to say Rock has surpassed Hogan in the Movie side of things. Other than Rocky 3 (which was a small role) Hogan's movies were horrible. Rock on the other hand has had way more success in Hollywood.

You aren't considering Hogan's tv shows, the saturday morning cartoon he was the star of, and his guest appearances that have become legendary (SNL before WM1)

Zoop · 02-12-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Imac7065

You aren't considering Hogan's tv shows, the saturday morning cartoon he was the star of, and his guest appearances that have become legendary (SNL before WM1)

His TV endeavor was mostly a colossal failure, too. He paved the way, certainly, but did so similar to how Lightning McQueen paved that road in Cars.

sthoemke · 02-12-2013, 06:24 PM

Hogan is by far tops in mechandise, but don't know how much he actually profited.

How much has Rock earned with his movies?

mnvikingstwins · 02-12-2013, 06:25 PM

At least in the Midwest, Jesse would have the most name recognition out of the four of them.

sthoemke · 02-13-2013, 03:17 PM

John Cena is problably doing the best currently with merchandising and a few movie deals.

Rock hasn't been in the ring much for the last 10 years or so.

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NewAgeHardcore Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 866	Out of those four names, Flair is the only one who hasn't had major success outside of the wrestling industry. The Rock is a movie star. Hogan had his reality show and lots of endorsements. Ventura was Governor, an author and a TV host. If you ask who has benefited the most from wrestling? Then the answer needs to be calculated from the things the person got outside of the wrestling industry. Flair shouldn't even be in the same discussion as the other three, because he isn't even close. Flair might be one, if not the greatest wrestler of all-time but his personal wealth, mainstream popularity and status in pop culture is far lower than the other three names - Rock and Hogan more specifically. 10 years ago, Hogan would have beaten out The Rock hands down. But now The Rock stars in $100M movies and Hogan is more of a TMZ tabloid-type of celebrity. Also because of the divorce and lawsuit from Nick's crash, Hogan's fortune is much lower than what it once was. The Rock has a reported net worth of $70M, Hogan's net worth is now only about $5M. If Ventura would have stayed in politics, he might be the winner here but now it's a conspiracy theory guy. My list: The Rock Hogan Ventura Flair __________________ WTB: David Wright 2002 Bowman Chrome Refractor Auto WTB: Hollywood Hogan 1998 Topps WCW/NWO Auto WTB: Babe Ruth Jersey with Pinstripe (04-06 Donruss/Playoff/Leaf Only)

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Imac7065 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 4,635 Imac7065	In the REAL world (real life success): Ventura, Rock, Hogan, Flair In mainstream popularity (IE asking an average joe if you know who they are): Hogan...................... Rock, Ventura......Flair In WRESTLING: Flair, Hogan, Ventura, Rock (rock will pass ventura soon but ventura was around for like 30 years as a wrestler and announcer) In "la la land" (Movies, TV etc): Hogan, Rock, Ventura............Flair my 2 cents on this. __________________ For My Up to Date Inventory Please Check My Ebay Store: http://stores.ebay.com/Jeremys-Sports-Cards-and-Coins

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sthoemke Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 628 sthoemke sthoemke	Hogan is by far tops in mechandise, but don't know how much he actually profited. How much has Rock earned with his movies? __________________ [ signature goes here ]

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EWG3 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 23 squanto736c2l	I would have to say Rock has surpassed Hogan in the Movie side of things. Other than Rocky 3 (which was a small role) Hogan's movies were horrible. Rock on the other hand has had way more success in Hollywood.

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sthoemke Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 628 sthoemke sthoemke	John Cena is problably doing the best currently with merchandising and a few movie deals. Rock hasn't been in the ring much for the last 10 years or so. __________________ [ signature goes here ]

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