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Old 11-18-2013, 09:00 AM   #226 (permalink)
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There is a great looking 1993 WCW Magazine set on EBAY now. $265 with time to go.

I just purchased a group of magazines from the UK with one it it and hopefully they are nice.

So far only four Steve Austin's have been graded so there has not been a big pick up in graded supply. I have my Cactus Jack at PSA now and hopefully it does well.

I personally like this Steve Austin card a lot more then his Cromy and have one of those at PSA now too.

When I first clicked on the link I was hoping it was a Buy It Now and then saw the price. Good luck if anyone is going after it.
If its the same set that I saw on Ebay, then the Austin top left corner looks like there is warping from water damage. It starts on the magazine and goes over to the card.
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If its the same set that I saw on Ebay, then the Austin top left corner looks like there is warping from water damage. It starts on the magazine and goes over to the card.
I see what you are pointing out. It is more clear on the Dustin Rhodes card.

I quickly glanced at it yesterday and the centering on the top row looked pretty good. If there is water damage this will be one that should be left with the cards in the magazine for sure.

Hopefully the cards in the magazine I have coming look good as I have not seen any photos and just confirmed with the seller they were in there. For the price I paid I am good either way but obviously the better they look the better it is for me.
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Considering people were paying considerably less than half that a couple months ago (AFTER) the PSA Austin's sold for big bucks something seems fishy about that auction. When I sold mine, I got one (count em one) offer from anyone for it and it wasn't for anywhere near what this one is at. The fact that there may be damage to the Austin seems to lend further question to the price action on this one. If it's legit then the people running it up must just have woken up to the fact that this was an Austin rookie card.
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As to the Cromy's I like them better than some. It is Austin's first appearance on a card of any type for a full two years before his magazine one. The set also was distributed in a foreign country where I've been told it was not well received and was pretty limited. It may end up being received more like the magazine paper cards from 1978 and 1981 in that people will end up preferring the look of the WCW magazine set (like they do with the 1982 All Stars), so not pay as much for the Cromy's, but I suspect if enough quantity ended up in the right person's hands, the market on these would get talked up quite a bit more than it is now. We shall see I guess.
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Considering people were paying considerably less than half that a couple months ago (AFTER) the PSA Austin's sold for big bucks something seems fishy about that auction. When I sold mine, I got one (count em one) offer from anyone for it and it wasn't for anywhere near what this one is at. The fact that there may be damage to the Austin seems to lend further question to the price action on this one. If it's legit then the people running it up must just have woken up to the fact that this was an Austin rookie card.
PSA 9 sold $800 BIN

PSA 5 sold $150 BIN

Not sure the auction sales.

The auction is basically a gamble on the condition of the Austin. You also get the rest of the set which could bring good value as well.

I'm surprised more haven't been graded, but maybe just not that many out there.
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I understand a gambling aspect to the condition of the Austin, but that's a lot to pay out on a pure gamble when it's more likely than not the seller deliberately left out the condition in the description. It's pretty much only well worth it if it grades a 8 or higher but there's no reason to believe it will based on the ones I've seen or the picture. As to the rest of the set I offered another set I picked up minus the Austin and Missy Hyatt cards and couldn't even get an offer when I wanted to move it for I think as low as $40 DLVD a few weeks ago. I tend to believe people are far more vocal about what something's supposedly worth when they own it already than when it actually comes time to buying it, especially in the wrestling market. As it relates to that auction specifically something seems amiss with that price, but if not, than that set just now took off because even after the sales you cite, you couldn't get but little over $100 for that magazine a few months ago.
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As it relates to grading, I think there has to be an unidentified issue here somewhere with wrestling cards in general. Other than the 1982 All Stars and to a lesser degree the Topps sets and the Parkhurst sets, almost NOTHING is getting graded. In fact, most older wrestling cards don't even come up for sale that often anymore. So either wrestling fans just love their cards, or don't like to grade, or there aren't as many cards out there as I personally think there are on some of these sets.
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I think it is an obscure card that most wrestling collectors haven't really given much thought about until recently.

Now that the card is generally well known, collectors understand its scarcity and want to jump on it when it comes up.

The recent PSA sales only drive the damand.
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Maybe. Something tells me though if I offered up the exact same item for sale I wouldn't get anywhere close to 265.00 for it. I hope I'm wrong since I own a couple sets.
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It is really hard to tell what these will sell for on average. I first became aware of the card earlier this year and I am sure the same could be said for others.

One of the things that is still happening is the wrestling card market is in the discovery phase and collectors are broadening out their collections. I started buying cards in 2009 and never even considered looking at cards from the mid 90's. Once the market started firming up I decided to look for other cards that could become valuable to add to my collection and this was one of them.

If wrestling cards should have any value then one has to think a Steve Austin card would. There are only four of these graded so far and the last one to hit the pop report was sold to a private collector and never even hit EBAY. The person who bought it has an incredible trading card collection and wanted to add a copy to it.

I can only speak for myself but I check EBAY daily for these magazines and I have to assume others do too and if these are listed properly I don't see them ever being cheap again.

I own the PSA 6 and I am definitely trying to upgrade it to a higher graded copy. This card looks awesome in a slab and I think has to be considered one of the better wrestling cards as Steve Austin was the highest drawing wrestler ever. If I am able to I won't be selling the 6.

The other card from this set that will do well graded is the Cactus Jack but by no means will it ever carry the value of an Austin. There are really on a few wrestling sets that are heavily chased in graded form and I just don't see that being a driver of this set other then the top few stars.

It is really unrealistic to expect lots of wrestling sets to be heavily collected in graded form but I believe you will continue to see strength in select sets such as this where collectors are chasing a few select cards.

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Old 11-18-2013, 08:38 PM   #236 (permalink)
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I like the look of the WCW card better than the Cromy. The Cromy look way better slabbed than they do raw. I think the Cromy are a little easier to find and you can still get them pretty cheap if you buy from Argentina but finding them mint is very difficult. I have had someone in Argentina looking for a sealed set for me for a few months and no luck yet. As for the WCW... I think they are harder to find and they are a better looking card and they don't say "stunning". What I don't like about them is that they are perforated, it's an action shot, and it 2 years older. It's a tough call which card is better... I still haven't decided which one I want to use for my collection
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Wrestling Autograph Book Bruno Sammartino Fritz Von Erich Mil Mascaras Giant | eBay


What amazing resource this magazine could be to authenticate rare signatures.

Check out the Bruiser Brody auto.
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Wrestling Autograph Book Bruno Sammartino Fritz Von Erich Mil Mascaras Giant | eBay


What amazing resource this magazine could be to authenticate rare signatures.

Check out the Bruiser Brody auto.
Great looking magazine.
Are any of them hand signed or just pre printed in it?
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Great looking magazine.
Are any of them hand signed or just pre printed in it?

I assume they are just pre printed in there.

A few people have had their Bruiser Brody signatures turned down by PSA/DNA and they look just like that one.
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:00 PM   #241 (permalink)
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Not my best effort but I did not expect many of these to come back as 10s like a lot of the others that I have had.....it does bulk up my effort to put together a number two for the registry and it does allow me to feed a few of the other guys that are trying to complete their sets. The Paul Jones PSA 10 is a nice hit though and will pay for the bulk of the sub as the guy behind me on the registry needs it for his set. I did hold back a couple cards from this series for another sub that I thought were the cleanest of the bunch and I have high hopes they will be Gem Mint. These cards increase in value a lot once in a slab as the "stock" used is not a traditional trading card stock. Before anyone makes any comparisons to Nolan Ryan these have biography backs and were intended to be cut out as the front of the magazine states.


1 1 22005986 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT BOBO BRAZIL Card
1 2 22005987 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT BOBO BRAZIL Card
1 3 22005988 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT BOBO BRAZIL Card
2 1 22005989 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT BULL BULLINSKI Card
2 2 22005990 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT BULL BULLINSKI Card
3 1 22005991 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT COWBOY BOB ELLIS Card
4 1 22005992 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT CRUSHER Card
5 1 22005993 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT DON LEO JONATHAN Card
6 1 22005994 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT DORY FUNK JR. Card
7 1 22005995 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT EDUARDO CARPENTIER Card
8 1 22005996 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT FRED CURRY Card
9 1 22005997 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT HAYSTACKS CALHOUN Card
10 1 22005998 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT JACK BRISCO Card
11 1 22005999 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT JOE LEDUC Card
12 1 22006000 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT KILLER KOWALSKI Card
13 1 22006001 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT LARS ANDERSON Card
13 2 22006002 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT LARS ANDERSON Card
13 3 22006003 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT LARS ANDERSON Card
14 1 22006004 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT MIGHTY IGOR Card
15 1 22006005 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT PAMPERO FIRPO Card
16 1 22006006 GEM MINT 10 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT PAUL JONES Card
16 2 22006007 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT PAUL JONES Card
17 1 22006008 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT PEDRO MORALES Card
17 2 22006009 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT PEDRO MORALES Card
18 1 22006010 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT RAY STEVENS Card
19 1 22006011 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT RED BASTIEN Card
19 2 22006012 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT RED BASTIEN Card
19 3 22006013 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT RED BASTIEN Card
20 1 22006014 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT RENE GOULET Card
21 1 22006015 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT THE DESTROYER Card
21 2 22006016 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT THE DESTROYER Card
22 1 22006017 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT THE GREAT MEPHISTO Card
23 1 22006018 MINT 9 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT THE SHEIK Card
24 1 22006019 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1973 WRESTLING ANNUAL #6-HAND CUT VERNE GAGNE Card

Total Items: 34
Date Received: 9/30/2013
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:15 PM   #242 (permalink)
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Here are some that advanced my sets a little.....I think that I had a tough grader as the grades were much lower than I expected. Win some and lose some, oh well.....I think a few of the non-grades were a bit lazy as I see no reason why some of them should not have been slabbed. I was very happy to have Bobby Duncum Sr in a slab as he is very tough to deal with and rarely seen. I obviously have a ton of these in slabs now and continue marching on and I hope that PSA DNA continues to increase their knowledge base for some of the more obscure wrestlers. I would have sent in Buck Robley if I knew that they could do him but in my communications with their department he was a no go. Someone on ebay has one and I have a few nice ones to send in sometime.


1 1 22138364 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS SERIES A 7 JACK BRISCO

2 1 22138365 N9: NOT GRADED 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS SERIES A 17 STEVE OLSONOSKI

3 1 22138366 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 1 RICK MARTEL

4 1 22138367 NEAR MINT 7 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 5 JIM BRUNZELL

5 1 22138368 N9: NOT GRADED 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 7 KERRY VON ERICH Card

6 1 22138369 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 8 S.D. JONES

7 1 22138370 NEAR MINT 7 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 9 BRAD RHEINGANS

8 1 22138371 N9: NOT GRADED 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 10 KILLER KHAN Card

9 1 22138372 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 12 PAUL ORNDORFF

10 1 22138373 EXCELLENT 5 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 14 SERGEANT SLAUGHTER

11 1 22138374 NEAR MINT 7 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 15 VERNE GAGNE

12 1 22138375 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 MC 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 16 BOBBY HEENAN

12 2 22138376 NEAR MINT 7 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 16 BOBBY HEENAN

13 1 22138377 N9: NOT GRADED 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 19 ADRIAN ADONIS Card

14 1 22138378 EXCELLENT 5 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 20 JESSE VENTURA

15 1 22138380 N9: NOT GRADED 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 21 BUCK ZUM HOFE Card

16 1 22138381 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 MC 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 22 JIMMY VALIANT

17 1 22138382 NEAR MINT 7 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 35 SWEET BROWN SUGAR

17 2 22138383 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 35 SWEET BROWN SUGAR

18 1 22138384 NEAR MINT 7 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 13 TITO SANTANA

19 1 22138385 EXCELLENT 5 1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 1 "SUPERSTAR" GRAHAM

20 1 22138386 EXCELLENT 5 1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 9 LOU THESZ

21 1 22138387 NEAR MINT 7 1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 11 MR. OLYMPIA

22 1 22138388 EXCELLENT 5 1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 12 IRON MIKE SHARPE

23 1 22138389 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 15 STEVE REGAL

24 1 22138390 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 18 SALVATORE BELLOMO

25 1 22138391 N9: NOT GRADED 1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 22 "BIG" JOHN STUDD Card

26 1 22138392 N9: NOT GRADED 1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 23 BUDDY ROSE Card

27 1 22138393 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 27 ANTONIO INOKI

28 1 22138394 NEAR MINT 7 1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 28 DICK SLATER

29 1 22138395 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 OC 1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 31 FRED BLASSIE

30 1 22138396 EXCELLENT 5 1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 32 LOU ALBANO

31 1 22138397 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 34 CANDI DIVINE

32 1 22138398 EXCELLENT 5 1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 36 MATT BORNE

33 1 22138399 NEAR MINT 7 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 26 MR. WRESTLING II

34 1 22138400 GOOD 2 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 28 BOBBY DUNCUM

35 1 22138379 N9: NOT GRADED 1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 21 BUCK ZUM HOFE Card

Total Items: 37
Date Received: 10/16/2013
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What's the reason for not grading them?
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Lazy? I have no idea at least they did not give it the dreaded "questionable authenticity".
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I actually recently got a N6: minimum size requirement (no grade) for a few of my wcw/NWO topps autos. I guess some of them were miss cut in regards to size.
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I have had this happened to me before and I resub them and they come back good.
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Here is a recent addition to my collection.....1976 cards

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Nice pick ups. Is that Harley Race giving piledriver.

Looking at your subs, I wonder if now they are just getting much tougher on the 1982-83 All Stars.
I think best deals for buyers in set are PSA 8's. Even some of the 7's look real nice.
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Nice pick ups. Is that Harley Race giving piledriver.

Looking at your subs, I wonder if now they are just getting much tougher on the 1982-83 All Stars.
I think best deals for buyers in set are PSA 8's. Even some of the 7's look real nice.
Yes that is Race with the pile driver.....

The all stars are signed so they are lower than typical raw cards......
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