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Old 10-22-2013, 05:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Red face BGS Grades are in - pretty brutal

I submitted 131 cards back in August. Grades finally popped today. I took a solid beating for the most part. No 10s..some 9.5s...a bunch of 9.0s and a few 8.5 and under....

I am just listing the wrestling cards I submitted....

My Alternate and Base Yellow Sets are complete with grading. I plan on framing these....

I will have some non-PC for sale probably over the weekend.

Thanks for looking....

7869486 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Road Warrior Animal/ Legends of Sport Preview 9.0 View
869494 Non-sports 2013 Pop Century Jerry Lawler 9.5 View
7869495 Wrestling 1998 DuoCards WWF Autographs Paul Bearer 8.5 View
7869496 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Abdullah the Butcher 9.0 View
7869497 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Bob Backlund 9.5 View
7869498 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Brutus Beefcake 9.5 View
7869499 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Buff Bagwell 9.5 View
7869500 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Bobby Heenan 9.5 View
7869501 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Bret Hart 9.0 View
7869502 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Bob Orton Jr. 9.0 View
7869503 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Bruno Sammartino 9.0 View
7869504 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Diamond Dallas Page 9.0 View
7869505 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Dan Severn 9.0 View
7869506 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Jimmy Garvin 9.0 View
7869507 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow George Steele 9.0 View
7869508 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Greg Valentine 9.0 View
7869509 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Hulk Hogan 9.0 View
7869510 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Hulk Hogan 9.0 View
7869511 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Hillbilly Jim 9.0 View
7869512 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow The Honky Tonk Man 9.0 View
7869513 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Ivan Koloff 9.0 View
7869514 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Polish Hammer Ivan Putski 9.5 View
7869515 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Hacksaw Jim Duggan 9.5 View
7869516 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Jimmy Hart EXCH 9.5 View
7869517 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Jim Neidhart 9.0 View
7869518 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Jake Roberts 9.5 View
7869519 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Kamala 9.0 View
7869520 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Koko B. Ware 9.0 View
7869521 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Kevin Nash 9.0 View
7869522 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Ken Shamrock 9.0 View
7869523 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Lex Luger 9.0 View
7869524 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Lanny Poffo 8.5 View
7869525 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Larry Zbyszko 9.5 View
7869526 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Missy Hyatt 9.5 View
7869527 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Marty Jannetty 8.5 View
7869528 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Nikita Koloff 9.0 View
7869529 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Nikolai Volkoff 9.5 View
7869530 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow One Man Gang 9.0 View
7869531 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Paul Orndorff 9.0 View
7869532 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Pete Rose 9.0 View
7869533 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Rick Martel 9.0 View
7869534 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Roddy Piper EXCH 9.0 View
7869535 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Rick Steiner 9.5 View
7869536 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Billy Graham 9.5 View
7869537 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Billy Graham 8.5 View
7869538 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Scott Hall 9.5 View
7869539 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Sid Vicious 9.5 View
7869540 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Scott Steiner 9.5 View
7869541 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Tony Atlas 9.5 View
7869542 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Ted DiBiase 9.5 View
7869543 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Iron Sheik 9.0 View
7869544 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Ric Flair 9.5 View
7869545 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Tito Santana 8.5 View
7869546 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Vader 9.0 View
7869547 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Yellow Wendi Richter 9.0 View
7869548 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Abdullah the Butcher 9.5 View
7869549 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Bob Backlund 9.5 View
7869550 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Brutus Beefcake 9.5 View
7869551 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Buff Bagwell 9.5 View
7869552 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Bobby Heenan 9.5 View
7869553 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Bret Hart/50 9.0 View
7869554 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Bob Orton Jr. 9.0 View
7869555 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Bruno Sammartino/50 9.5 View
7869556 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Diamond Dallas Page 9.0 View
7869557 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Dan Severn 9.0 View
7869558 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Jimmy Garvin 9.5 View
7869559 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow George Steele 9.5 View
7869560 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Greg Valentine 9.5 View
7869561 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Hulk Hogan/50 9.5 View
7869562 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Hillbilly Jim 9.5 View
7869563 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow The Honky Tonk Man 9.0 View
7869564 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Ivan Koloff 9.5 View
7869565 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Polish Hammer Ivan Putski 9.0 View
7869566 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Hacksaw Jim Duggan/50 9.0 View
7869567 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Jimmy Hart 9.0 View
7869568 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Jim Neidhart 9.0 View
7869569 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Jake Roberts 9.5 View
7869570 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Kamala 9.5 View
7869571 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Koko B. Ware 9.5 View
7869572 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Kevin Nash/50 9.5 View
7869573 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Ken Shamrock 8.5 View
7869574 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Lex Luger 9.0 View
7869575 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Lanny Poffo 9.5 View
7869576 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Larry Zbyszko 9.5 View
7869577 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Missy Hyatt 9.5 View
7869578 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Marty Jannetty 9.0 View
7869579 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Nikita Koloff 9.5 View
7869580 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Nikolai Volkoff 9.0 View
7869581 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow One Man Gang 9.5 View
7869582 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Paul Orndorff 9.0 View
7869583 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Pete Rose 9.5 View
7869584 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Rick Martel 9.0 View
7869585 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Roddy Piper EXCH 9.0 View
7869586 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Rick Steiner 9.0 View
7869587 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Billy Graham/50 9.5 View
7869588 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Billy Graham/50 9.5 View
7869589 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Billy Graham/50 8.5 View
7869590 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Scott Hall 9.5 View
7869591 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Sid Vicious 9.5 View
7869592 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Scott Steiner 9.0 View
7869593 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Tony Atlas 9.5 View
7869594 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Tatanka 9.5 View
7869595 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Ted DiBiase/50 9.5 View
7869596 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Iron Sheik 9.5 View
7869597 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Ric Flair/50 9.5 View
7869598 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Ric Flair/50 9.5 View
7869599 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Tito Santana 9.0 View
7869600 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Vader 9.0 View
7869601 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Yellow Wendi Richter 9.5 View
7869602 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Bobby Heenan 8.5 View
7869603 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Roddy Piper 9.5 View
7869604 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Bobby Heenan 9.0 View
7869605 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Hillbilly Jim 9.0 View
7869606 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Bruno Sammartino 8.5 View
7869607 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Black Hillbilly Jim 8.5 View
7869608 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Red Hillbilly Jim 8.5 View
7869609 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Black Jim Neidhart 8.0 View
7869610 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Red Ivan Koloff 9.0 View
7869611 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Red Lanny Poffo 9.0 View
7869612 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Red Bobby Heenan 8.5 View
7869613 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Red Ted DiBiase 9.0 View
7869614 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Alternate Art Blue Pete Rose 9.0 View
7869615 Wrestling 2012 Leaf Originals Blue Pete Rose 8.5 View
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think you did ok, just because they are not all 9.5's and 10's don't mean they are not nice cards. That Paul Bearer card is tough to get in anything higher than an 8, so I would say you did decent on it.
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Pretty good grades. Anything a 9 or higher is great in my book. You going to list extras on Ebay?

Forgot Lawler is in Pop Century. Maybe now that he has cards in a Leaf set they got him in next Leaf Originals set. Would be a nice add for that set. Does he even have any on card certified autos yet?
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Pretty good grades. Anything a 9 or higher is great in my book. You going to list extras on Ebay?

Forgot Lawler is in Pop Century. Maybe now that he has cards in a Leaf set they got him in next Leaf Originals set. Would be a nice add for that set. Does he even have any on card certified autos yet?
Lawler has an on card auto from 2005 topps heritage, its a nice looking card, but hard to get in high grade. Those cards were major "condition sensitive"
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Lawler has an on card auto from 2005 topps heritage, its a nice looking card, but hard to get in high grade. Those cards were major "condition sensitive"
I believe he had an auto in the first Heritage Chrome set as well.
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Pretty good grades. Anything a 9 or higher is great in my book. You going to list extras on Ebay?

Forgot Lawler is in Pop Century. Maybe now that he has cards in a Leaf set they got him in next Leaf Originals set. Would be a nice add for that set. Does he even have any on card certified autos yet?
I do not know what I am going to do yet with the extras. I will post in the Other Sports BST area.

I am also going to look for upgrades for this set....
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I do not know what I am going to do yet with the extras. I will post in the Other Sports BST area.

I am also going to look for upgrades for this set....
The prices on Leaf Originals are really starting to dip, you might be able to get some upgrades at decent prices. I think the prices have dipped because all the really rare cards are in peoples PC's and off the open market.
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The prices on Leaf Originals are really starting to dip, you might be able to get some upgrades at decent prices. I think the prices have dipped because all the really rare cards are in peoples PC's and off the open market.
I agree. I probably will not sell but will be open to trading for Series Two needs....
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The prices on Leaf Originals are really starting to dip, you might be able to get some upgrades at decent prices. I think the prices have dipped because all the really rare cards are in peoples PC's and off the open market.
Not too many auction listings now. Most listings are BIN and seem overpriced, in my opinion. I think Leaf made a big mistake in keeping the popular wrestlers shortprinted and/or backdoored.
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The prices on Leaf Originals are really starting to dip, you might be able to get some upgrades at decent prices. I think the prices have dipped because all the really rare cards are in peoples PC's and off the open market.
the prices were bound to dip, only a select couple of collectors were paying overs to complete hectic sets for their PC's.

I don't rate this set, never had really.

Although they will look much better in those BGS slabs, the OP should be real happy with those grades, if he sent them to PSA most of them would be 10s.
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Although they will look much better in those BGS slabs, the OP should be real happy with those grades, if he sent them to PSA most of them would be 10s.
No PSA would not have made most of them 10's just because the cards were not the white background cards. The cards that have color in the background makes it easier to see if the card is off center or not. PSA has only graded a few with different color back's and most of them are 9's. There is a Bobby Heenan Red background graded PSA 9 on Ebay right now, and just looking at the photos it looks nice to me, but its a 9.

it should be interesting to see what the Heenan goes of since there is a group of people who think grading these Leaf cards is pointless, lets have the auction do the talking.
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I am curious what it was that caused the 8.5 on a few of those? The Heenan red base, and Pete Rose blue alternate in particular. Have you seen the subgrades yet, was it centering issues?
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also lawler's heritage chrome auto is not on card
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