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Old 08-10-2014, 06:26 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Please tell us what happened, in your educated opinion Mr. Dogecoin
You seem to know it all. You tell us.
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Old 08-10-2014, 06:29 AM   #52 (permalink)
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You obviously don't know where Im from, or for that matter, know about racing. Lived in Kansas for 25 years of my life before joining the military. I have been privy to watching various forms of racing for much of my life. I addition, I have been a Tony Stewart fan much of that time until now. You clearly are a nut hugger and can't see the forest for the trees.

No, he didn't hit him intentionally but to say that he didn't intentionally spin his car out is ignorant and naive at best. You sir are the... weakest link.

Lets say for a moment that he didn't intentionally spin him out, whats your excuse for him hitting him on the second pass, at a higher line on the track that any other racer was using on the caution? What's your excuse for him knowing where the spin out occurred and still was driving with the rate of speed he was using?

You're clearly a fanboy who can't accept the facts.
Did the cars touch? If so, show me where. And if they did touch, it was Kevins left front and tonys right rear. Please tell me in this instance, who has the position? I'm not arguing anything else besides that. Tony didn't take him out, he ran out of room trying to go for it.
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You seem to know it all. You tell us.
I have clearly conveyed my thoughts on the matter, and you have attempted to antagonize me with your tail between your legs. Now, please kind sir, educated us with your racing knowledge and codify what we don't know.
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I'm sure that they are in more control than the layman thinks.

However, the guy got out of his vehicle and pretty much stood in the path of Stewart's car.

In one view, he got run over, in another Ward practically asked for it. Will be following this one to see the end result.
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Whats your excuse for him hitting him on the second pass, at a higher line on the track that any other racer was using on the caution? What's your excuse for him knowing where the spin out occurred and still was driving with the rate of speed he was using?
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Did the cars touch? If so, show me where. And if they did touch, it was Kevins left front and tonys right rear. Please tell me in this instance, who has the position? I'm not arguing anything else besides that. Tony didn't take him out, he ran out of room trying to go for it.

Answer my question(s) before I entertain your questions.
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Old 08-10-2014, 06:38 AM   #56 (permalink)
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After watching the video, hopefully Tony gets charged.....he just threw his career and possibly part of his life away over something so unecasaary. Granted the kid should not have gotten out and stood on the track (he's lucky someone else didn't hit him), but there's no excusing what he did. Scumbag
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Answer my question(s) before I entertain your questions.
Read much? I never argued or brought any of that up. You know my argument and you know I'm right. Which you clearly admitted when you said "he didn't hit him on purpose". Last time you were on a track and someone pulled a slider on you, what did you do? Did you lift or did you wreck?
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Tony Stewart will be tried for Manslaughter (and hopefully convicted), it is clear that he didn't intentionally hit him, but he did try to send a message that went horribly wrong. Such a tragedy that should never have happened. My thoughts and prayers go to Kevin Ward's family and friends. I hope Stewart owns up to his error and doesn't try to defend his actions that were clearly defined in the video.
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You obviously know nothing about racing, which you have clearly admitted. Tony intentionally spun the kids car out, thats why Kevin Ward got out of his car to yell at him. Anyone that knows anything about racing can see that. Please shut your Fcking mouth when nothing but sht comes out.
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I have clearly conveyed my thoughts on the matter, and you have attempted to antagonize me with your tail between your legs. Now, please kind sir, educated us with your racing knowledge and codify what we don't know.
I do not know anything about racing. You are clearly a lawyer and an expert on racing. Were you there? Are you a mind reader when you state your fact...er....I mean opinions.
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I'm sure that they are in more control than the layman thinks.

However, the guy got out of his vehicle and pretty much stood in the path of Stewart's car.

In one view, he got run over, in another Ward practically asked for it. Will be following this one to see the end result.

Understand that in racing many people have gotten in wrecks and subsequently got out of their cars to yell, point and throw things at the instigator. This story is no different. The point which people (your casual race fan) are missing is that Tony Stewart is a veteran driver and took a higher line during the caution lap that a driver normally would in that circumstance. Its my belief that he was trying to intimidate Kevin Ward and accidentally hit him. In my mind that is Manslaughter.

You can tell me that Kevin Ward should not have ran on the track, but again, that is missing the main point.
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Read much? I never argued or brought any of that up. You know my argument and you know I'm right. Which you clearly admitted when you said "he didn't hit him on purpose". Last time you were on a track and someone pulled a slider on you, what did you do? Did you lift or did you wreck?

You're missing the point bud.

He didn't hit him and kill him on purpose but its my opinion he intentionally rode him high into the turn thus forcing him to spin out, not only that, but its my belief his intentions were to intimidate and scare him by running close to him on the caution pass, unfortunately he hit him. If proven right, that is unquestionably manslaughter.

Please look at the video several times and educate yourself about the gamesmanship of racing, then tell me what you think.
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I do not know anything about racing.

Then why are you speaking on the subject when you have pointed this FACT out?
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Then why are you speaking on the subject when you have pointed this FACT out?
I am asking to educate me. You have all the answers.
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That was tough to watch, condolences to the family. I know nothing about Nascar but I know Stewart has had a lot of issues in the past. I am also not sure how he could possibly race today.
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You obviously know nothing about racing, which you have clearly admitted. Tony intentionally spun the kids car out, thats why Kevin Ward got out of his car to yell at him. Anyone that knows anything about racing can see that. Please shut your Fcking mouth when nothing but sht comes out.
Lol this guy...
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I am asking to educate me. You have all the answers.

Fortunately kiddo its not my obligation to educate you. You should take ownness to your previous comments and educate yourself. Making comments on topics which you are unfamiliar with then demanding someone to give you the answers is quite pathetic.
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Tony Stewart has always been a hothead. This is shocking but not surprising.
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Here's another video. This one focuses on Wards car.

Tony Stewart Runs Over Kevin Ward Jr. Dirt Track Sprint Race Crash | Tony Stewart Hits Kevin Ward Jr - YouTube
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Deadspin has a good pool of information from various reporters and eyewitnesses:

Video: Tony Stewart Runs Over Driver During Confrontation, Killing Him

unbelievably tragic.
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ESPN just reported Stewart is racing today. Whether he hit the guy on purpose or not, I can't see how he'd even attempt to race today.
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ESPN just reported Stewart is racing today. Whether he hit the guy on purpose or not, I can't see how he'd even attempt to race today.
That's just even more proof of how much of a dirtbag he is if he does race. Yes, you aren't charged criminally (yet hopefully), but for gods sake man pull out out of respect
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sad story... the kid got pissed and ran out into the middle of traffic.

I HIGHLY doubt tony meant to hit the kid but just an unfortunate and awful accident.
Stay in the car, wait until after the race.... Getting mad and running into the middle of oncoming vehicles just cost this kid his life.
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@USATODAYsports: "We're business as usual today," Greg Zipadelli, Stewart-Haas Racing competition director

Holy crap, this is insane
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Fortunately kiddo its not my obligation to educate you. You should take ownness to your previous comments and educate yourself. Making comments on topics which you are unfamiliar with then demanding someone to give you the answers is quite pathetic.
All I stated was this is all speculation. You want to start being a drama queen and throw around manslaughter. Fact is we do not know what was going on. Instead of waiting in the car for help, the driver who was killed stepped out on the track. What happened next? Did Stewart not see him? Did Stewart try to kick up dirt on him? Did he intentionally hit him? Which one is it, buddy boy?

Were you at the track? Were you in Stewart's mind at the time? Are you in the interrogation room right now?

By you responding to another poster with expletives, makes you the pathetic one.
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@USATODAYsports: "We're business as usual today," Greg Zipadelli, Stewart-Haas Racing competition director

Holy crap, this is insane
Since when did business as usual include racing after you have run over and killed a fellow racer? Way to show compassion.
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