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brave#1fan 03-31-2011 08:04 PM

Great TTM Autographs Thread
 
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My first one is a 4x6 Chipper Jones photo, Don Sutton card, Nolan Ryan 3x4 photo, Hank Aaron card sliver, Hank Aaron ticket, Hank Aaron reprint photo, Mark Mcgwire motion card. And the best one is a GEORGE BUSH autograph 8x10 photo!!!!!!

Zacky1053 03-31-2011 08:07 PM

I think the Jones, Ryan and Bush are PP or AP but I could be wrong

Either way, they look good!

brave#1fan 03-31-2011 08:29 PM

No their real black sharpie autographs you can get a flash light and shine it on them and see where the marker starts and stops plus they all came with a letter saying their real.

mgugs46 03-31-2011 08:58 PM

Ummm TTM autos don't usually come with a COA

brave#1fan 03-31-2011 09:53 PM

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Here are the letters

John91C 04-01-2011 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=brave#1fan;1194828]No their real black sharpie autographs you can get a flash light and shine it on them and see where the marker starts and stops plus they all came with a letter saying their real.[/QUOTE]

It's very common for autopens to use sharpies...just because it's a sharpie doesn't mean they are authentic autographs, again look up autopen

As far as Bush goes...that is an autopen or PP...everyone gets that exact same photo and Bush does not ttm...

Zacky1053 04-01-2011 12:55 PM

[QUOTE=John91C;1196186]It's very common for autopens to use sharpies...just because it's a sharpie doesn't mean they are authentic autographs, again look up autopen

As far as Bush goes...that is an autopen or PP...everyone gets that exact same photo and Bush does not ttm...[/QUOTE]

Yeah. Understand we're just being honest with you based on our personal experience.

Also, whomever you send to will pretty much NEVER say if a signature is autopen or preprint. Unfortunately they seem to think that anything that resembles a signature is the same thing as the person actually signing the item from the viewpoint of the sender (us).

kennyb34 04-01-2011 03:52 PM

Hate to break it to you but, Hank Aaron uses a ghotsigner for everything sent to him TTM. Meaning that he hires someone to sign them for him, so they are fake / fradulent / forgeries however you want to say it.

Jones and Bush are AP, I've gotten from them before and checked, indefinitley auto penned.

danmecum51 04-01-2011 03:55 PM

From what I can gather, there are some things to note. Eventhough he would be the last person I would ever want an auto from, George W. rarely signs through the mail. I think that his bookplate signing was about the only example of him actually signing, and I think it pulled in thousands upon thousands of requests due to him never signing. I read on the autograph magazine site (thanks to JohnC) about presidential signings. It appears that Bush has been very generous as far as giving each request a return of some sort (AP, PP, or just a photo). I am no expert, but on that type of photo, if returned from the white house wasnt sent in by you, I would almost guarantee it isnt authentic.

The Nolan Ryan has shown up on other forums before (I am sure many of you know of returns of that exact photocard) and I remember the autos matching up almost exactly. The other thing that throws a red flag for me is that the nolan ryan auto sticker (which he includes on all autographs he signs via his foundation) arent present. (see the bottom right hand of the photo I attached)

The McGwire looks legit to me, the chipper (I have nothing to go off of other than his card autos) and the Hank Aarons look legit. I know Aaron used to sign everything that came through but has stopped as of late.... What I would do is take those all into PSA and get them authenticated and come back and prove everyone wrong :)

We arent trying to be rude or anything, hell I have had guys on here question the legitimacy of some of my returns and it sucks because you want them all to be real. It turned out several were APs (tony romo), secretarials (Clint Eastwood, Robert Redford) and I even missed a Pre-print mack brown auto. Thought it was legit. Use this forum as a tool. I would rather know something of mine is legit than never know at all...


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mgugs46 04-01-2011 04:16 PM

Good advice, and awesome Ryan btw

Chris528 04-01-2011 08:44 PM

PSA doesn't prove anything. They are a bunch of crooks! They have been known to pass fakes and reject authentic graphs.

brave#1fan 04-01-2011 09:48 PM

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[QUOTE=kennyb34;1196648]Hate to break it to you but, Hank Aaron uses a ghotsigner for everything sent to him TTM. Meaning that he hires someone to sign them for him, so they are fake / fradulent / forgeries however you want to say it.

Jones and Bush are AP, I've gotten from them before and checked, indefinitley auto penned.[/QUOTE]

The Bush might be ap but the Chipper one is definitely real and not a ap. Here is two more

danmecum51 04-01-2011 10:35 PM

[QUOTE=brave#1fan;1197403]The Bush might be ap but the Chipper one is definitely real and not a ap. Here is two more[/QUOTE]

those are nice. I love chippy

John91C 04-02-2011 01:39 AM

Dan...did you see PSA/DNA will be at Mill Creek the friday before the Ripken signing? They will also be there for the Ripken signing to do the Signed in the Presence coa and only costs $8 to get that. Brent (the manager) was telling me Ripken will do groups of 10-15 autos then get up and move to another part of the store to do individual photo ops for the ones who just got their autos and it's FREE to get the photo op!

Chris528: While all authentication companies falter (no one is perfect) they are one of the most respected 3rd party authentication companies out there...I would buy most PSA/DNA over some joe schmoe's certificate of authenticity.

danmecum51 04-02-2011 01:49 AM

john, I reallllllllly need to get up to that... I will see if my buddy wants to go up with me... how great would that be? how many people are expecting to show?

John91C 04-02-2011 01:54 AM

Oh there will be quite a few ppl ( I bet 200+ ppl)...he's there for 1 1/2 hrs. Just saw on their website Jake Locker will be there on the 23rd...not a big Husky fan but I'll go to that as well...

danmecum51 04-02-2011 02:00 AM

I will for sure pass on locker. Do you know what time he is going to be there at? I work saturday nights and would have to get back asap.

danmecum51 04-02-2011 02:01 AM

can you buy photos there? I havent ever been to a public signing...

John91C 04-02-2011 02:17 AM

yeah they will have photos, jerseys, bats, baseballs, etc...they signing is from 1-2:30 on the 16th.

danmecum51 04-02-2011 03:36 AM

how much do photos cost? like a 16x20

John91C 04-02-2011 10:41 AM

[QUOTE=danmecum51;1197875]how much do photos cost? like a 16x20[/QUOTE]

I think they charge $20 for 16x20 and $10 for 8x10. I don't know of they will have the 2131 photo where he's at the plate and 2131 is in the background...I ordered that one from photofile just in case they didn't have it...I'll ask them today if they will have that one when I go to the Larsen signing.

brave#1fan 04-18-2011 03:49 PM

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Finally got something in the mail today Arnold Palmer 8x10 photo. It took about 2 weeks or 3 weeks but I think its a stupid autopen.

brendenw 04-18-2011 05:17 PM

Nolan IS Reprint .
He sends the exact card signed in the exact place to everyone !
May be wrong

brave#1fan 04-26-2011 02:35 AM

Today I got a Tony Hawk 5x7 reprint and a sticker.

brave#1fan 04-28-2011 10:52 PM

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Bobby Doerr signed omlb! It took 2weeks and 2days one of my best ones!!!


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